carcinogenic carbs

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Carbs and colon cancer:

usatoday.com2004 05 18 usatOpen ↗
insulin_x.htm

So, "quickly digested carbohydrates" are your model carbs?

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Carbs a oesophageal adenocarcinoma :

theage.com.au1085120112Open ↗
877.html

So, "fizzy soft drinks" are your model carbs?

Why do you equate junk food and "carbohydrates"? Can't you
be bothered to write or say "high glycemic carbs" or
"sugar". You make no contribution here with your junk posts.

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Carbs and colon cancer:

usatoday.com2004 05 18 usatOpen ↗
insulin_x.htm

The title of this article is "Insulin Could Hold The Key".

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Carbs a oesophageal adenocarcinoma :

theage.com.au1085120112Open ↗
877.html

The title of this article is "Soft Drinks 'Could Cause
Cancer'".

The articles are not about Carbohydrates in general. You are
making a category mistake.

George

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You make no contribution here with your junk posts.

I'm thankful he posted the links to the articles. I can draw
my own conclusions. He contributed to this.

-Chad

Shall we allow the researchers speak for themselves, has
iron found competition in carbs?

In article number 1:

"Now, a growing number of scientists suspect that the same
risk factors contribute to colon cancer.

What links two such different diseases? Evidence
increasingly points to excess insulin."

In article number 2:

"The reason could be that fizzy drinks can lead to gastric
reflux, a known cause of oesophageal cancer, in which
stomach acid rises into the gullet."

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Carbs and colon cancer:

usatoday.com2004 05 18 usatOpen ↗
insulin_x.htm

Carbs a oesophageal adenocarcinoma :

theage.com.au108512011Open ↗
2877.html

If they are linked to these, how many more types of cancer
are involved?

TC

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Carbs and colon cancer:

usatoday.com2004 05 18 usatOpen ↗
insulin_x.htm

The title of this article is "Insulin Could Hold The Key".

Quoted message said:

Carbs a oesophageal adenocarcinoma :

theage.com.au1085120112Open ↗
877.html

The title of this article is "Soft Drinks 'Could Cause
Cancer'".

The articles are not about Carbohydrates in general. You
are making a category mistake.

George

Do you have problems with the english language?

quote from article number 1:

"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for eight
years found that starchy diets tripled the risk of
colon cancer."

Last time I looked starch was a carb and this study shows
that a high starch diet tripled the risk of colon cancer.
Starches occur in rte cereals, refined grain products, and
is used in most processed foods as thickeners and
texturizers.

quote from article number 2:

"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the massive
increase in cancers of the gullet seen in Western nations
over the past 25 years.

Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed nearly six-
fold in white males, the group with the highest soft drink
consumption.

Researchers in India made the link with soft drinks after
conducting a global study of esophageal cancer - they told
New Scientist they found a "very significant correlation"
between consumption of the drinks and cancer."

The main ingredient in fizzy soft drinks other than water is
high fructose corn syrup, especially in the last 25 years.
Again, the last time I looked hfcs was a carb.

Both are carbs and both likely carcinogens. There is no
mistake in the category heading.

TC

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Carbs and colon cancer:

usatoday.com2004 05 18 usatOpen ↗
insulin_x.htm

The title of this article is "Insulin Could Hold The Key".

Quoted message said:

Carbs a oesophageal adenocarcinoma :

theage.com.au10851201128Open ↗
77.html

The title of this article is "Soft Drinks 'Could Cause
Cancer'".

The articles are not about Carbohydrates in general. You
are making a category mistake.

George

Do you have problems with the english language?

quote from article number 1:

"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for eight
years found that starchy diets tripled the risk of colon
cancer."

Quote from Article #1:

"Although scientists aren't sure what brings about insulin
resistance, they know it occurs more often in people who are
obese — 30 or more pounds over a healthy weight — and
sedentary. Lifestyle, Giovannucci says, might affect insulin
resistance and colon cancer risk in complex ways."

--
jmk in NC

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tcomeau said:

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>Carbs and colon cancer:
>
>usatoday.com2004 05 18 usatOpen ↗
>insulin_x.htm

The title of this article is "Insulin Could Hold
The Key".

>Carbs a oesophageal adenocarcinoma :
>
>theage.com.au108512011Open ↗
>2877.html

The title of this article is "Soft Drinks 'Could Cause
Cancer'".

The articles are not about Carbohydrates in general. You
are making a category mistake.

George

Do you have problems with the english language?

quote from article number 1:

"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for eight
years found that starchy diets tripled the risk of colon
cancer."

Quote from Article #1:

"Although scientists aren't sure what brings about insulin
resistance, they know it occurs more often in people who
are obese — 30 or more pounds over a healthy weight — and
sedentary. Lifestyle, Giovannucci says, might affect
insulin resistance and colon cancer risk in complex ways."

That doesn't change anything.

TC

Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting unsupported
speculation, in place of the research author's ideas, was
the sure thing in scientific wiz bang "proof" and a certain
discussion stopper. Are you sure iron is not tied in
somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about cover all
reasons and research can just stop now. The first said
insulin and the second said reflx, these are the bits of
info for which you must provide ..SUPPORTED.. info, now you
see what you made me ..DO.. ? Is there such a thing as high
iron carbs, the mind spins with the possibilities. We could
get a grant from the high iron carb industry to say "it
ain;t so", cause they wouldn't want this info to get out
anytime soon.

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The first article said high insulin was the apparent
cause, not carbs per se. I read today that the specific
cancer for which you accuse carbs is at a lower level in
diabetics, who often have post meal high glucose levels,
many have them all the time; an intresting contridiction
to the carbs made it happen notion.

"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for eight
years found that starchy diets tripled the risk of
colon cancer."

The second article suggests increased reflux

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as the cause. The high fructose notion you propose
doesn't hold for all the other places where more fizzy
drinks are used with the same result, sugar is the
sweetener of choice outside the us where inports are
heavly taxed to protect growers of domesticate sugar and
hfs are a choice of costs.

Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause. Pure
speculation. Not based on any science or specific
observations.

And regardless:

"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the massive
increase in cancers of the gullet seen in Western nations
over the past 25 years.

Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed nearly
six-fold in white males, the group with the highest soft
drink consumption.

Researchers in India made the link with soft drinks after
conducting a global study of esophageal cancer - they told
New Scientist they found a "very significant correlation"
between consumption of the drinks and cancer."

TC

You sure are getting silly in your arguments. Grasping at
straws will do that. BTW, who do you work for again?

TC

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Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting unsupported
speculation, in place of the research author's ideas, was
the sure thing in scientific wiz bang "proof" and a
certain discussion stopper. Are you sure iron is not tied
in somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about cover all
reasons and research can just stop now. The first said
insulin and the second said reflx, these are the bits of
info for which you must provide ..SUPPORTED.. info, now
you see what you made me ..DO.. ? Is there such a thing as
high iron carbs, the mind spins with the possibilities. We
could get a grant from the high iron carb industry to say
"it ain;t so", cause they wouldn't want this info to get
out anytime soon.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The first article said high insulin was the apparent
cause, not carbs per se. I read today that the specific
cancer for which you accuse carbs is at a lower level
in diabetics, who often have post meal high glucose
levels, many have them all the time; an intresting
contridiction to the carbs made it happen notion.

"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for eight
years found that starchy diets tripled the risk of colon
cancer."

The second article suggests increased reflux

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as the cause. The high fructose notion you propose
doesn't hold for all the other places where more fizzy
drinks are used with the same result, sugar is the
sweetener of choice outside the us where inports are
heavly taxed to protect growers of domesticate sugar
and hfs are a choice of costs.

Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause. Pure
speculation. Not based on any science or specific
observations.

And regardless:

"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the massive
increase in cancers of the gullet seen in Western nations
over the past 25 years.

Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed nearly
six-fold in white males, the group with the highest soft
drink consumption.

Researchers in India made the link with soft drinks after
conducting a global study of esophageal cancer - they
told New Scientist they found a "very significant
correlation" between consumption of the drinks and
cancer."

TC

Or it is the company one must entertain, pun intended. We
have had a single cause, iron, advocate; now we have a
new contender, carbs. If you can't make them think, make
them laugh.

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You sure are getting silly in your arguments. Grasping at
straws will do that. BTW, who do you work for again?

TC

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Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting unsupported
speculation, in place of the research author's ideas, was
the sure thing in scientific wiz bang "proof" and a
certain discussion stopper. Are you sure iron is not tied
in somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about cover all
reasons and research can just stop now. The first said
insulin and the second said reflx, these are the bits of
info for which you must provide ..SUPPORTED.. info, now
you see what you made me ..DO.. ? Is there such a thing
as high iron carbs, the mind spins with the
possibilities. We could get a grant from the high iron
carb industry to say "it ain;t so", cause they wouldn't
want this info to get out anytime soon.

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> The first article said high insulin was the apparent
> cause, not carbs per se. I read today that the
> specific cancer for which you accuse carbs is at a
> lower level in diabetics, who often have post meal
> high glucose levels, many have them all the time; an
> intresting contridiction to the carbs made it happen
> notion.

"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for eight
years found that starchy diets tripled the risk of colon
cancer."

The second article suggests increased reflux
> as the cause. The high fructose notion you propose
> doesn't hold for all the other places where more fizzy
> drinks are used with the same result, sugar is the
> sweetener of choice outside the us where inports are
> heavly taxed to protect growers of domesticate sugar
> and hfs are a choice of costs.

Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause. Pure
speculation. Not based on any science or specific
observations.

And regardless:

"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the massive
increase in cancers of the gullet seen in Western
nations over the past 25 years.

Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed nearly
six-fold in white males, the group with the highest soft
drink consumption.

Researchers in India made the link with soft drinks
after conducting a global study of esophageal cancer -
they told New Scientist they found a "very significant
correlation" between consumption of the drinks and
cancer."

TC

What are you hiding? Who do you work for?

TC

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Or it is the company one must entertain, pun intended. We
have had a single cause, iron, advocate; now we have a
new contender, carbs. If you can't make them think, make
them laugh.

Quoted message said:

You sure are getting silly in your arguments. Grasping at
straws will do that. BTW, who do you work for again?

TC

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Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting unsupported
speculation, in place of the research author's ideas,
was the sure thing in scientific wiz bang "proof" and a
certain discussion stopper. Are you sure iron is not
tied in somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about
cover all reasons and research can just stop now. The
first said insulin and the second said reflx, these are
the bits of info for which you must provide
..SUPPORTED.. info, now you see what you made me ..DO..
? Is there such a thing as high iron carbs, the mind
spins with the possibilities. We could get a grant from
the high iron carb industry to say "it ain;t so", cause
they wouldn't want this info to get out anytime soon.

>> The first article said high insulin was the apparent
>> cause, not carbs per se. I read today that the
>> specific cancer for which you accuse carbs is at a
>> lower level in diabetics, who often have post meal
>> high glucose levels, many have them all the time; an
>> intresting contridiction to the carbs made it happen
>> notion.
>
>
>"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for
>eight years found that starchy diets tripled the risk
>of colon cancer."
>
>
>The second article suggests increased reflux
>> as the cause. The high fructose notion you propose
>> doesn't hold for all the other places where more
>> fizzy drinks are used with the same result, sugar is
>> the sweetener of choice outside the us where inports
>> are heavly taxed to protect growers of domesticate
>> sugar and hfs are a choice of costs.
>
>Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause. Pure
>speculation. Not based on any science or specific
>observations.
>
>And regardless:
>
>"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the
>massive increase in cancers of the gullet seen in
>Western nations over the past 25 years.
>
>Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed
>nearly six-fold in white males, the group with the
>highest soft drink consumption.
>
>Researchers in India made the link with soft drinks
>after conducting a global study of esophageal cancer -
>they told New Scientist they found a "very significant
>correlation" between consumption of the drinks and
>cancer."
>
>TC

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What are you hiding? Who do you work for?

TC

Ahh. The default Stimulus-Response rule when your meager
rule base has no other rule. Were you programmed by a Meat
Industry program? Who wrote you?

GWC

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Or it is the company one must entertain, pun intended.
We have had a single cause, iron, advocate; now we have
a new contender, carbs. If you can't make them think,
make them laugh.

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You sure are getting silly in your arguments. Grasping
at straws will do that. BTW, who do you work for again?

TC

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et.com>...
> Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting unsupported
> speculation, in

place

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> of the research author's ideas, was the sure thing in
> scientific wiz

bang

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> "proof" and a certain discussion stopper. Are you
> sure iron is not

tied

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> in somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about cover
> all reasons and research can just stop now. The first
> said insulin and the second

said

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> reflx, these are the bits of info for which you must
> provide

..SUPPORTED..

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> info, now you see what you made me ..DO.. ? Is there
> such a thing as

high

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> iron carbs, the mind spins with the possibilities. We
> could get a

grant

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> from the high iron carb industry to say "it ain;t
> so", cause they

wouldn't

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> want this info to get out anytime soon.
>
>
> >> The first article said high insulin was the
> >> apparent cause, not

carbs per

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> >> se. I read today that the specific cancer for
> >> which you accuse

carbs is

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> >> at a lower level in diabetics, who often have post
> >> meal high

glucose

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> >> levels, many have them all the time; an intresting
> >> contridiction

to the

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> >> carbs made it happen notion.
> >
> >
> >"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for
> >eight years found that starchy diets tripled the
> >risk of colon cancer."
> >
> >
> >The second article suggests increased reflux
> >> as the cause. The high fructose notion you propose
> >> doesn't hold

for all

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> >> the other places where more fizzy drinks are used
> >> with the same

result,

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> >> sugar is the sweetener of choice outside the us
> >> where inports are

heavly

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> >> taxed to protect growers of domesticate sugar and
> >> hfs are a choice

of

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> >> costs.
> >
> >Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause.
> >Pure speculation.

Not

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> >based on any science or specific observations.
> >
> >And regardless:
> >
> >"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the
> >massive increase in cancers of the gullet seen in
> >Western nations over the past 25

years.

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> >
> >Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed
> >nearly six-fold in white males, the group with the
> >highest soft drink consumption.
> >
> >Researchers in India made the link with soft drinks
> >after conducting

a

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> >global study of esophageal cancer - they told New
> >Scientist they

found

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> >a "very significant correlation" between consumption
> >of the drinks

and

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> >cancer."
> >
> >TC

Are you still beating your wife? Show me the scientist that
has no iintrests, as your assertions assumes an obvious pool
of those who do and those who don't and it being the basis
for accepting their work or not; without reference to the
quality of the work alone. You must demonstrate that this
makes a difference in the quality of the work, except in the
fevered mind of the conspiracy buff of course. In which
case, any research you mention will also have to have it's
validity demonstrated by showing no interest on the
researcher; it is a fool's errand, it is a case of prove you
are not guilty and then we will accept your work, it is
guilt by association.

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"When people blindly support a mainstream science that
is itself based on financial interests, one cannot help
but wonder what that individuals personal financial
interests are. If you have no financial interest then
say so and the case is closed. Refusing to answer the
questions just confirms everyones suspicions. So put up
or shut up. If you have finacial interests say so, if
not, say so. Put the question to rest one way or another
or shut the f**k up."

Still waiting for the scientist who doesn't have
personal intrest in his/her work in terms of support
and/or academic glory. Do we find them among the authors
of diet books?

Are you going to answer the question? Who do you work for?
Your evasiveness is suspicious and incriminating.

TC

When people blindly support a mainstream science that is
itself based on financial interests, one cannot help but
wonder what that individuals personal financial interests
are. If you have no financial interest then say so and the
case is closed. Refusing to answer the questions just
confirms everyones suspicions. So put up or shut up. If you
have finacial interests say so, if not, say so. Put the
question to rest one way or another or shut the f**k up.

TC

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What are you hiding? Who do you work for?

TC

Ahh. The default Stimulus-Response rule when your meager
rule base has no other rule. Were you programmed by a Meat
Industry program? Who wrote you?

GWC

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Or it is the company one must entertain, pun intended.
We have had a single cause, iron, advocate; now we
have a new contender, carbs. If you can't make them
think, make them laugh.

>You sure are getting silly in your arguments.
>Grasping at straws will do that. BTW, who do you work
>for again?
>
>TC
>
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>et.com>...
>> Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting unsupported
>> speculation, in

place

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Quoted message said:

>> of the research author's ideas, was the sure thing
>> in scientific wiz

bang

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>> "proof" and a certain discussion stopper. Are you
>> sure iron is not

tied

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>> in somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about
>> cover all reasons and research can just stop now.
>> The first said insulin and the second

said

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Quoted message said:

>> reflx, these are the bits of info for which you
>> must provide

..SUPPORTED..

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>> info, now you see what you made me ..DO.. ? Is
>> there such a thing as

high

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Quoted message said:

>> iron carbs, the mind spins with the possibilities.
>> We could get a

grant

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> from the high iron carb industry to say "it ain;t
>> so", cause they

wouldn't

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>> want this info to get out anytime soon.
>>
>>
>> >> The first article said high insulin was the
>> >> apparent cause, not

carbs per

Quoted message said:

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>> >> se. I read today that the specific cancer for
>> >> which you accuse

carbs is

Quoted message said:

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>> >> at a lower level in diabetics, who often have
>> >> post meal high

glucose

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>> >> levels, many have them all the time; an
>> >> intresting contridiction

to the

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>> >> carbs made it happen notion.
>> >
>> >
>> >"A study that followed more than 38,000 women for
>> >eight years found that starchy diets tripled the
>> >risk of colon cancer."
>> >
>> >
>> >The second article suggests increased reflux
>> >> as the cause. The high fructose notion you
>> >> propose doesn't hold

for all

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>> >> the other places where more fizzy drinks are
>> >> used with the same

result,

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>> >> sugar is the sweetener of choice outside the us
>> >> where inports are

heavly

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>> >> taxed to protect growers of domesticate sugar
>> >> and hfs are a choice

of

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>> >> costs.
>> >
>> >Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause.
>> >Pure speculation.

Not

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>> >based on any science or specific observations.
>> >
>> >And regardless:
>> >
>> >"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the
>> >massive increase in cancers of the gullet seen in
>> >Western nations over the past 25

years.

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>> >
>> >Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have rocketed
>> >nearly six-fold in white males, the group with the
>> >highest soft drink consumption.
>> >
>> >Researchers in India made the link with soft
>> >drinks after conducting

a

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>> >global study of esophageal cancer - they told New
>> >Scientist they

found

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>> >a "very significant correlation" between
>> >consumption of the drinks

and

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>> >cancer."
>> >
>> >TC

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When people blindly support a mainstream science that is
itself based on financial interests, one cannot help but
wonder what that individuals personal financial
interests are. If you have no financial interest then
say so and the case is closed. Refusing to answer the
questions just confirms everyones suspicions. So put up
or shut up. If you have finacial interests say so, if
not, say so. Put the question to rest one way or another
or shut the f**k up.

There is nothing blinder than an AI program without eyesight
or vision written by a sophomore. Who paid your author to
write you? Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.? We know you are a
poorly coded AI program, but we still don't know who paid
your author to write you.

George

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What are you hiding? Who do you work for?

TC

Ahh. The default Stimulus-Response rule when your meager
rule base has no other rule. Were you programmed by a
Meat Industry program? Who wrote you?

GWC

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> Or it is the company one must entertain, pun
> intended. We have had a single cause, iron,
> advocate; now we have a new contender, carbs. If

you

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> >You sure are getting silly in your arguments.
> >Grasping at straws

will

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> >do that. BTW, who do you work for again?
> >
> >TC
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> >[email hidden] wrote in message

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> >et.com>...
> >> Oh, I didn't know that just reasserting
> >> unsupported speculation,

in

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place

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> >> of the research author's ideas, was the sure
> >> thing in scientific

wiz

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bang

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> >> "proof" and a certain discussion stopper. Are you
> >> sure iron is

not

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tied

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> >> in somehow, carbs and iron, it would just about
> >> cover all reasons

and

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> >> research can just stop now. The first said
> >> insulin and the

second

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> >> reflx, these are the bits of info for which you
> >> must provide

..SUPPORTED..

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> >> info, now you see what you made me ..DO.. ? Is
> >> there such a

thing as

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high

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> >> iron carbs, the mind spins with the
> >> possibilities. We could get

a

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grant

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> >> from the high iron carb industry to say "it ain;t
> >> so", cause they

wouldn't

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> >> want this info to get out anytime soon.
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> >>
> >> >> The first article said high insulin was the
> >> >> apparent cause,

not

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carbs per

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> >> >> se. I read today that the specific cancer for
> >> >> which you

accuse

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carbs is

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> >> >> at a lower level in diabetics, who often have
> >> >> post meal high

glucose

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> >> >> levels, many have them all the time; an
> >> >> intresting

contridiction

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> >> >
> >> >"A study that followed more than 38,000 women
> >> >for eight years

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> >> >that starchy diets tripled the risk of colon
> >> >cancer."
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> >> >
> >> >The second article suggests increased reflux
> >> >> as the cause. The high fructose notion you
> >> >> propose doesn't

hold

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> >> >> the other places where more fizzy drinks are
> >> >> used with the

same

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result,

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> >> >> sugar is the sweetener of choice outside the
> >> >> us where inports

are

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heavly

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> >> >> taxed to protect growers of domesticate sugar
> >> >> and hfs are a

choice

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> >> >Suggests increased reflux as a *possible* cause.
> >> >Pure

speculation.

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> >> >
> >> >And regardless:
> >> >
> >> >"Fizzy soft drinks could be responsible for the
> >> >massive increase

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> >> >cancers of the gullet seen in Western nations
> >> >over the past 25

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> >> >Rates of oesophageal adenocarcinoma have
> >> >rocketed nearly

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> >> >white males, the group with the highest soft
> >> >drink consumption.
> >> >
> >> >Researchers in India made the link with soft
> >> >drinks after

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> >> >New Scientist they

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> >> >consumption of the

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> >> >TC

tcomeau said:

When people blindly support a mainstream science that is
itself based on financial interests, one cannot help but
wonder what that individuals personal financial
interests are.

Absolutely! I mean, they could work for an insurance company
that is in bed with the pharmaceutical companies!

--
jmk in NC