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Carrera LRS2 2003 & clipless pedals - yes or no?

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  1. 'evnin' all,

    Two questions for the price of one post!

    I've been looking at the Carerra LSR2
    halfords.comopd product details.asp (which is probably a UK only
    model?). Just wondered if anyone out there rides / has ridden one? I note that it won an award in
    one of the MTB mags (can't remember which one but it was best in class under 1,000 quid or something
    like that). It's currently on offer at 850 quid and I'm sorely tempted. I'd probably swap the brakes
    for some discs I have though.

    It comes fitted as standard with clipless pedals which brings me to my second question, is it worth
    going clipless? I've never used them before and I get conflicting views from guys at work who all
    ride a fair bit more than I do. Just wondered what other folks thought. 95% or my riding is fairly
    straight-forward XC but I still manage to come off regularly :-) - that's the bit that worries me
    the most!.

    Later,

    Fred

  2. Fred Fragger said:

    'evnin' all,

    Two questions for the price of one post!

    I've been looking at the Carerra LSR2
    halfords.comopd product details.asp (which is probably a UK
    only model?). Just wondered if anyone out there rides / has ridden one? I note that it won an
    award in one of the MTB mags (can't remember which one but it was best in class under 1,000 quid
    or something like that). It's currently on offer at 850 quid and I'm sorely tempted. I'd probably
    swap the brakes for some discs I have though.

    It comes fitted as standard with clipless pedals which brings me to my second question, is it
    worth going clipless? I've never used them before and I get conflicting views from guys at work
    who all ride a fair bit more than I do. Just wondered what other folks thought. 95% or my riding
    is fairly straight-forward XC but I still manage to come off regularly :-) - that's the bit that
    worries me the most!.

    Later,

    Fred


    This is just an opinion, I used to be a road ride back in the day, and used toe-clips, and I liked
    them, then I raced BMX a few years back and used big wide flats with pins, and liked them too. Now I
    like to do XC and light freeride, I have used BMX flats and have been happy, I just bought a new
    Ellsworth which came with clipless, and got the LBS to throw in a pair of answer shoes as well. I
    did so light riding and here is my take... Getting out is what most people are afraid of, this is
    arguably the easiest part of using these pedals, you can get out really fast, and with a little
    conditioning, I am sure you can get out really fast without thinking about it. Getting in is to me,
    harder than getting out, this was where I had most of my trouble, on easy XC, clipping in is easy,
    when perched at the top of a 30 foot steep drop, there is no time for me to get properly clipped,
    the platforms are better. Climbing, there is no doubt that clipless gives you more power, however if
    you are climbing really steep inclines that require a quick bail upon failure, I would stick with
    flats. Jumping... Clipless all the way, for obvious reasons. Personally, I like to change my foot
    position for different things, when climbing I like to be more to the middle of my foot, when
    spinning on flat XC, I like the be more on the ball of my foot. Clipless doesn't give me the
    flexibily that I enjoy with flats.

    --
    Jerry [email hidden] remove the nospam and the period to email me.

  3. "Fred Fragger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    'evnin' all,

    Two questions for the price of one post!


    <snip #1>

    Quoted message said:

    It comes fitted as standard with clipless pedals which brings me to my second question, is it
    worth going clipless? I've never used them before


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I get conflicting views from guys at work who all ride a fair bit more


    than

    Quoted message said:

    I do. Just wondered what other folks thought. 95% or my riding is fairly straight-forward XC but I
    still manage to come off regularly :-) - that's the bit that worries me the most!.

    Oodles of debate about this. Just do a Google groups search on the topic in this newsgroup. Summary:
    Generally Clipless have some advantages especially in helping with speed and power for climbing and
    distance. Generally Platforms (a decent pair with pins) have advantages when you are going to be
    dabbing and putting your foot down a lot on difficult terrain or doing tricky trials manoeuvres.
    Personally, I have both and use clipless 90% of the time but swap for the platforms for those short
    technical trails. Don't forget that you can adjust the clipless so that they release very, very
    easily too.
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

  4. Fred Fragger said:

    'evnin' all,

    Two questions for the price of one post!

    I've been looking at the Carerra LSR2
    halfords.comopd product details.asp (which is probably a UK
    only model?). Just wondered if anyone out there rides / has ridden one? I note that it won an
    award in one of the MTB mags (can't remember which one but it was best in class under 1,000 quid
    or something like that). It's currently on offer at 850 quid and I'm sorely tempted. I'd probably
    swap the brakes for some discs I have though.

    It comes fitted as standard with clipless pedals which brings me to my second question, is it
    worth going clipless? I've never used them before and I get conflicting views from guys at work
    who all ride a fair bit more than I do. Just wondered what other folks thought. 95% or my riding
    is fairly straight-forward XC but I still manage to come off regularly :-) - that's the bit that
    worries me the most!.

    Later,

    Fred

    go clipless and you'll never look back. For my downhill I use Shimano M646s and some shimano
    clipless 'DX' shoes. When I ride street I go back to a big fat pair of flatties. You can go faster
    for longer and I know I may sound like some tree-hugging, pot-smoking hippy here but it really does
    improve your riding if you feel 'at one' with the rig. Enjoy.

    As for the bike, never been into halfords for bike stuff as my boss would execute me.

    Small Black Dog

  5. <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    As for the bike, never been into halfords for bike stuff as my boss would execute me.

    Small Black Dog


    LOL, They're not that bad.

    My current steed is a Carrera Kraken SE and it's actually quite a nice ride. I'm just looking for
    something that will be a little more respectful of my genitalia :-)

    One day I'll be able to justify (rather than afford) the cost of a serious "real" bike but until
    them a mid-range bike will do - even if it does come from Halfords :-)

    Later

    Fred

  6. Fred Fragger said:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    As for the bike, never been into halfords for bike stuff as my boss would execute me.

    Small Black Dog

    LOL, They're not that bad.

    My current steed is a Carrera Kraken SE and it's actually quite a nice ride. I'm just looking for
    something that will be a little more respectful of my genitalia :-)

    One day I'll be able to justify (rather than afford) the cost of a serious "real" bike but until
    them a mid-range bike will do - even if it does come from Halfords :-)

    Later

    Fred

    ehehehe. I get all my parts cheap at work, 33% off all components with trade on frame and fork.

    Just finished building up ...

    Specialized Big Hit '03 Marzocchi Monster Ts '03 Hope Big 'Un hubs on 24" singletrack on rear and
    26" Mavic D321 up front Hope M4s 205 rotor on front, 185 on rear Hope Headset Race Face Diablous bar
    and stem XT rear mech XT shifter XT cranks MRP world cup type 2 chan device Maxxis super tacky
    highrollers back and front. Titec Berserker El Norte Shimano M646 pedals

    Only cost me £1440 It's a pretty nice rig, albeit neither from halfords or mid-range 😉

    Small Black Dog

  7. "MTB Lover" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:n18xb.90718

    Quoted message said:

    Jumping... Clipless all the way, for obvious reasons.

    I really really hope you meant flats here and this was a slip-up.

    Steve.

  8. Quoted message said:

    Just finished building up ...

    Specialized Big Hit '03 Marzocchi Monster Ts '03 Hope Big 'Un hubs on 24" singletrack on rear and
    26" Mavic D321 up front Hope M4s 205 rotor on front, 185 on rear Hope Headset Race Face Diablous
    bar and stem XT rear mech XT shifter XT cranks MRP world cup type 2 chan device Maxxis super tacky
    highrollers back and front. Titec Berserker El Norte Shimano M646 pedals

    Only cost me £1440 It's a pretty nice rig, albeit neither from halfords or mid-range 😉

    Small Black Dog

    Sounds good... any pix?

    Didn't know Hope makes headsets.
    --
    Slacker

  9. "Small Black Dog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Just finished building up ...

    Specialized Big Hit '03 Marzocchi Monster Ts '03 Hope Big 'Un hubs on 24" singletrack on rear and
    26" Mavic D321 up front Hope M4s 205 rotor on front, 185 on rear Hope Headset Race Face Diablous
    bar and stem XT rear mech XT shifter XT cranks MRP world cup type 2 chan device Maxxis super tacky
    highrollers back and front. Titec Berserker El Norte Shimano M646 pedals

    Only cost me £1440 It's a pretty nice rig, albeit neither from halfords or mid-range 😉

    Small Black Dog


    Sounds good and probably looks good too.

    £1440 is still a lot for me to justify when 'er indoors has a to-do list containing things like new
    kitchen, new bathroom, new central heating etc. etc. :-(

    Later

    Fred

  10. Fred Fragger said:

    'evnin' all,

    Two questions for the price of one post!

    I've been looking at the Carerra LSR2
    halfords.comopd product details.asp (which is probably a UK
    only model?). Just wondered if anyone out there rides / has ridden one? I note that it won an
    award in one of the MTB mags (can't remember which one but it was best in class under 1,000 quid
    or something like that). It's currently on offer at 850 quid and I'm sorely tempted. I'd probably
    swap the brakes for some discs I have though.

    The LRS2 badged as a Carrera is a UK only model, although the bike itself is actually made by
    Merida, a Taiwanese company (merida.commerida.com).

    I would have reservations about buying any full suspension bike for under a grand, and especially
    one that started below that price point. There are long-term issues with bearings / bushings, shocks
    and frame quality.

    Then bear in mind that many of the staff at Halfords are essentially trained monkeys (I can say
    that, because I was one), so if you have problems you might have trouble getting them resolved.

    I'm sure it doesn't appeal to you, but for the price you're looking at, I'd suggest a nice hard tail
    from a proper bike shop.

    Quoted message said:

    It comes fitted as standard with clipless pedals which brings me to my second question, is it
    worth going clipless? I've never used them before and I get conflicting views from guys at work
    who all ride a fair bit more than I do. Just wondered what other folks thought. 95% or my riding
    is fairly straight-forward XC but I still manage to come off regularly :-) - that's the bit that
    worries me the most!.

    Been done to death: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

  11. Slacker said:

    Didn't know Hope makes headsets.

    Not a great pic but: j-harris.net02.jpg

    Better pic: j-harris.netforge%20thumbie%20front.jpg (Spademan's)

  12. "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Slacker said:

    Didn't know Hope makes headsets.

    Not a great pic but: j-harris.net02.jpg

    Better pic: j-harris.netforge%20thumbie%20front.jpg (Spademan's)

    Same frame though heheheh

  13. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Slacker said:

    Didn't know Hope makes headsets.

    Not a great pic but: j-harris.net02.jpg

    Better pic:


    j-harris.netforge%20thumbie%20front.jpg

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (Spademan's)

    Same frame though heheheh

    and shifters/brakes.... hehehehe

    Hope makes some beautiful stuff. I'm actually thinking twice about trying the M4's on the Turner.
    That would give me experience with both Hayes and Hopes.
    --
    Slacker

  14. On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 at 09:18 GMT, Fred Fragger penned:

    Quoted message said:


    Sounds good and probably looks good too.

    £1440 is still a lot for me to justify when 'er indoors has a to-do list containing things like
    new kitchen, new bathroom, new central heating etc. etc. :-(

    Sounds like maybe you should scratch all those and just go for "new house" =P

    --
    monique

  15. Slacker said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just finished building up ...

    Specialized Big Hit '03 Marzocchi Monster Ts '03 Hope Big 'Un hubs on 24" singletrack on rear and
    26" Mavic D321 up front Hope M4s 205 rotor on front, 185 on rear Hope Headset Race Face Diablous
    bar and stem XT rear mech XT shifter XT cranks MRP world cup type 2 chan device Maxxis super tacky
    highrollers back and front. Titec Berserker El Norte Shimano M646 pedals

    Only cost me £1440 It's a pretty nice rig, albeit neither from halfords or mid-range 😉

    Small Black Dog

    Sounds good... any pix?

    Didn't know Hope makes headsets.
    --
    Slacker

    Small Black Dog

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