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Cassette Lockring slipping?

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  1. Every time I've tried to install or remove a Shimano/SRAM style
    cassette lockring, I've had a lot of trouble actually getting it to
    work. Inevitably, the splined lockring tool slips, and I end up
    spending at least 20 minutes messing around with the thing,
    continually afraid that I'll be stripping the tool or the lockring, or
    (on installation) not getting it sufficiently tightened: this happened
    to me once and I ended up carrying my bike 3 miles when the chain
    slipped off the cassette into the spokes.

    Is there some trick that I'm missing? Do I need to mallet the splined
    piece into the ring or something like that? I've tried a couple
    different lockring tools and different handles/torque wrenches, etc
    and they all suffer from slippage in the spline/lockring interface.

    -alan

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  2. Alan Hoyle said:

    Every time I've tried to install or remove a Shimano/SRAM style
    cassette lockring, I've had a lot of trouble actually getting it to
    work. Inevitably, the splined lockring tool slips, and I end up
    spending at least 20 minutes messing around with the thing,
    continually afraid that I'll be stripping the tool or the lockring, or
    (on installation) not getting it sufficiently tightened: this happened
    to me once and I ended up carrying my bike 3 miles when the chain
    slipped off the cassette into the spokes.

    Is there some trick that I'm missing? Do I need to mallet the splined
    piece into the ring or something like that? I've tried a couple
    different lockring tools and different handles/torque wrenches, etc
    and they all suffer from slippage in the spline/lockring interface.

    Although you shouldn't need to for /tightening/ the lockring, try using your
    QR skewer to keep the tool in place. (Works well for loosening, too, which
    can be a bit trickier, of course.)

    Bill "master stripper (and not in a Patrick Swayze on SNL kinda way)" S.

  3. << Every time I've tried to install or remove a Shimano/SRAM style
    cassette lockring, I've had a lot of trouble actually getting it to
    work. Inevitably, the splined lockring tool slips >>

    Just use a rear quick-release skewer to hold the lockring tool in place. When
    removing a lockring, just adjust the skewer a little looser to allow the
    lockring to unscrew a bit.

  4. "S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Although you shouldn't need to for /tightening/ the lockring, try using
    your QR skewer to keep the tool in place. (Works well for loosening,
    too, which can be a bit trickier, of course.)

    Or get the kind of lock ring tool with a pin in the middle to hold it in place.

  5. Ken said:

    "S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Although you shouldn't need to for /tightening/ the lockring, try using
    your QR skewer to keep the tool in place. (Works well for loosening,
    too, which can be a bit trickier, of course.)

    Or get the kind of lock ring tool with a pin in the middle to hold it in place.

    I like this type of tool because it works easily with a torque wrench socket.

    The QR skewer idea works OK if you have a sufficiently deep socket to fit over the QR skewer end.

    Park Tool has good instructions:

    <http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQcogs.shtml>

  6. Alan Hoyle said:

    Every time I've tried to install or remove a Shimano/SRAM style
    cassette lockring, I've had a lot of trouble actually getting it to
    work. Inevitably, the splined lockring tool slips, and I end up
    spending at least 20 minutes messing around with the thing,
    continually afraid that I'll be stripping the tool or the lockring, or
    (on installation) not getting it sufficiently tightened: this happened
    to me once and I ended up carrying my bike 3 miles when the chain
    slipped off the cassette into the spokes.

    Is there some trick that I'm missing? Do I need to mallet the splined
    piece into the ring or something like that? I've tried a couple
    different lockring tools and different handles/torque wrenches, etc
    and they all suffer from slippage in the spline/lockring interface.

    -alan


    There are two tool formats. An early Shimano pattern used
    for UG freewheels is also used for Campagnolo cassette
    lockrings and for Record/Chorus BB cups. Shimano/SRAM
    cassette lockrings are a different pattern --although they
    look roughly similar from a few feet away. You should double
    check that you're getting the right tool- - go to your LBS
    with your tool and hold it up to the new ones on the wall.
    The difference is obvious if you put the two tools next to
    each other and your description sounds like you have the
    'other' one. A nice tool for that is the Tacx T4545 with an
    integral handle, BTW. At any rate, your problem is not
    common among professional mechanics.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  7. I'm not an expert mechanic; but, I used the mallet and it works great.

    Tom

    "Alan Hoyle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Every time I've tried to install or remove a Shimano/SRAM style
    cassette lockring, I've had a lot of trouble actually getting it to
    work. Inevitably, the splined lockring tool slips, and I end up
    spending at least 20 minutes messing around with the thing,
    continually afraid that I'll be stripping the tool or the lockring, or
    (on installation) not getting it sufficiently tightened: this happened
    to me once and I ended up carrying my bike 3 miles when the chain
    slipped off the cassette into the spokes.

    Is there some trick that I'm missing? Do I need to mallet the splined
    piece into the ring or something like that? I've tried a couple
    different lockring tools and different handles/torque wrenches, etc
    and they all suffer from slippage in the spline/lockring interface.

    -alan

    --
    Alan Hoyle - [email hidden] - http://www.alanhoyle.com/
    "I don't want the world, I just want your half." -TMBG
    Get Horizontal, Play Ultimate.

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