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  1. MASSBUG has made the following suggestion:

    Quoted post said:

    Tuesday 8th August is the next ABS Census which will be counting how many people ride to work.

    Now is the time to work on any of your friends not yet cycling to work. Talk about petrol prices, public transport fare increases, health & fitness benefits and climate change. Offer buddying. Start extra bike buses.

    They've also got some posters to help promote the idea:

    Perhaps we could call it "Ride and Be Counted Day"?

  2. Don't forget to convert from *Jedi Knight* as your main religion to *Cyclist*
    http://www.cyclingforums.com/t355500.html

  3. cfsmtb said:

    http://www.cyclingforums.com/t355500.html


    Dang! Missed that entry - and I even went looking.

    Ho hum... 🙄

  4. cfsmtb said:

    Don't forget to convert from *Jedi Knight* as your main religion to
    *Cyclist*
    http://www.cyclingforums.com/t355500.html

    LOL.

    Though it won't do anything. Even though the standard the ABS devised
    allows for non-religious life philosophies (in which case you would be a
    cyclist under the atheist group) the ABS won't use it and will just
    categorise it as an answer not defined, which is grouped with the did not
    answers, agnostics in the athiests major grouping anyway. The ABS wants to
    inflate the Athiest category to show how enlightened and anti-relgious we
    are.

    Though curiously enough if you put down you practice Yoga you are counted
    as a Hindu. The ABS likes pointing out how multicultural we are; how many
    Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists and Wiccans there are. Even the UFO nuts get
    counted along with all the other Neopagans in other religions.

    As long as it doesn't get in the way of their main agenda with is getting
    people to list the Christian Church they were baptised into, even if they
    don't give a toss about it anymore, because there is lots of money to be
    made selling that data to the Churches.

    Same thing happened with the Jedi. They were counted as not-defined and
    then grouped with the Atheists. But since there were 70000 of us they were
    at least forced to acknowledge what they were doing, which made them very
    uncomfortable.

    dewatf.

  5. On 2006-07-31, dewatf (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:
    cfsmtb said:

    Don't forget to convert from *Jedi Knight* as your main religion to
    *Cyclist*
    http://www.cyclingforums.com/t355500.html


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    Though curiously enough if you put down you practice Yoga you are counted
    as a Hindu. The ABS likes pointing out how multicultural we are; how many
    Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists and Wiccans there are. Even the UFO nuts get
    counted along with all the other Neopagans in other religions.

    So you're saying that if I put down "pastafarian", I am put in with
    neopagans?

    What about "satanist"?

    --
    TimC
    "Thanks to the joint efforts of OpenOffice, Mozilla, and a few others, Emacs
    officially entered the category of lightweight utilities." -- kalifa on /.

  6. dewatf said:


    Though curiously enough if you put down you practice Yoga you are counted
    as a Hindu. The ABS likes pointing out how multicultural we are; how many
    Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists and Wiccans there are. Even the UFO nuts get
    counted along with all the other Neopagans in other religions.

    So as a most devout worshipper of all things cyclical, we're liable to be classified with the Frisbeetarians? bugger! 😠

  7. dewatf said:

    Same thing happened with the Jedi. They were counted as not-defined and
    then grouped with the Atheists. But since there were 70000 of us they were
    at least forced to acknowledge what they were doing, which made them very
    uncomfortable.

    And after all that, Jedi didn't get included as an option in this year's
    census, which was the whole point.

    --
    BrettS

  8. BrettS said:
    dewatf said:

    Same thing happened with the Jedi. They were counted as not-defined and
    then grouped with the Atheists. But since there were 70000 of us they were
    at least forced to acknowledge what they were doing, which made them very
    uncomfortable.

    And after all that, Jedi didn't get included as an option in this year's
    census, which was the whole point.

    --
    BrettS

    Join the church of bicycle jebus
    http://myspace.com/bicycle_jesus

  9. BrettS said:

    And after all that, Jedi didn't get included as an option in this year's
    census, which was the whole point.

    It was the fake point in the hoax email.

    dewatf.

  10. TimC said:

    So you're saying that if I put down "pastafarian", I am put in with
    neopagans?

    Aetherius Society (Flying Saucer Group) was one of the many religons
    classified as: 6999 Other religions, micellaneous, nec (not elsewhere
    classified)

    Pastafarian would probably be treated like Jedi, 0003 not defined, which is
    grouped with no-religion when they tabulate the statistics.
    Since it doesn't exist as a specific term in the ABS's census manual for
    classification according to "Australian Standard 1266.0: Australian
    Standard Classification of Religious Groups".

    Quoted message said:

    What about "satanist"?

    6995 Other religion, miscellaneous, Satanist
    Along with devil worshipers and black magicians.

    Jedi should have been coded as 6134 Other religion, pantheist except the
    ABS decided it wasn't a religion but a stunt.

    The list of Other Religions is available here:
    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Lookup/A6C6E216152C279FCA25697E00184C39?opendocument

    The standard is a wonderful camel.

    dewatf.

  11. quote='dewatf'On Mon said:

    So you're saying that if I put down "pastafarian", I am put in with
    neopagans?

    Aetherius Society (Flying Saucer Group) was one of the many religons
    classified as: 6999 Other religions, micellaneous, nec (not elsewhere
    classified)

    Pastafarian would probably be treated like Jedi, 0003 not defined, which is
    grouped with no-religion when they tabulate the statistics.
    Since it doesn't exist as a specific term in the ABS's census manual for
    classification according to "Australian Standard 1266.0: Australian
    Standard Classification of Religious Groups".

    Quoted message said:

    What about "satanist"?

    6995 Other religion, miscellaneous, Satanist
    Along with devil worshipers and black magicians.

    Jedi should have been coded as 6134 Other religion, pantheist except the
    ABS decided it wasn't a religion but a stunt.

    The list of Other Religions is available here:
    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Lookup/A6C6E216152C279FCA25697E00184C39?opendocument

    The standard is a wonderful camel.

    dewatf.[/QUOTE]

    I didn't see Pythagorean Number Mystic in the list.

    Still plenty to choose from. 🙄

  12. Bikesoiler said:

    I didn't see Pythagorean Number Mystic in the list.

    Still plenty to choose from. 🙄

    Cripes, I was a neo Pantheist* circa 1991, after progressing through a prolonged Gnostic phrase from the mid to late 80's. Happy Cyclist now.

    *Note, this does not mean Pantera fan.

  13. cfsmtb said:


    Cripes, I was a neo Pantheist* circa 1991, after progressing through a
    prolonged Gnostic phrase from the mid to late 80's. Happy Cyclist now.


    I think all this time you've just been an undecided

    Quoted message said:


    Parbs

  14. On 01/08/06 at 21:40:13 cfsmtb somehow managed to type:

    Quoted message said:


    Cripes, I was a neo Pantheist* circa 1991, after progressing through a
    prolonged Gnostic phrase from the mid to late 80's. Happy Cyclist now.

    As well as being a Happy Cyclist[1] I think I'll go for being a
    Goatonapolist ( http://www.goatonapole.com/index.html ) this time
    around - hard atheist is just far too common these days....

    [1] Except when I have to take an ice (hail) cold shower in a howling
    headwind while fully clothed and going uphill past the Essendon Tram
    Depot that is.

    --

    Humbug
    Today is Pungenday, the 67th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3172

  15. Humbug said:


    As well as being a Happy Cyclist[1] I think I'll go for being a
    Goatonapolist ( http://www.goatonapole.com/index.html ) this time
    around - hard atheist is just far too common these days....

    Being on the path to the Eternal Goat is something several a.ber's just might aspire to..... 😄

  16. dewatf said:

    6995 Other religion, miscellaneous, Satanist
    Along with devil worshipers and black magicians.

    So they differentiate between white and black magicians.

    Quoted message said:

    The list of Other Religions is available here:
    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Lookup/A6C6E216152C279FCA25697E00184C39?opendocument

    So we just need to wave a collection of documented beliefs, practises,
    etc under their nose to get classified to get under other religions
    classifications, then it is back to breeding to get the numbers up.

  17. Terryc said:


    So we just need to wave a collection of documented beliefs, practises,
    etc under their nose to get classified to get under other religions
    classifications, then it is back to breeding to get the numbers up.

    Cycling News would be a good place to start .. :o

  18. On 01/08/06 at 22:40:49 cfsmtb somehow managed to type:

    Quoted message said:


    Humbug said:


    As well as being a Happy Cyclist[1] I think I'll go for being a
    Goatonapolist ( http://www.goatonapole.com/index.html ) this time
    around - hard atheist is just far too common these days....

    Being on the path to the Eternal Goat is something several a.ber's
    just might aspire to..... 😄

    Indeed. Now that the triennial Job Network Great Reshuffle is all but
    over I _should_ be able to make it to the next Goatage...:-)

    --

    Humbug
    Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 68th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3172

  19. Actually folks, this Census thing is becoming all quite serious. Bicycle NSW have it up on their front page: http://www.bicyclensw.org.au/ and there was a email on the BFA-oz list late this arvo.

    Now where were those counter loops on the off road paths again .. 😉 http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/trum/BicycleLoopLocations.pdf

  20. The ABS is awake to Census shenanigans, according to The Australian:

    Quoted post said:

    Some people like to mess with the Census by, for example, saying they cycled to work on Census day (to encourage local governments to install more bike paths) or by writing "Jedi" under religion. But Mr Williams said it was important for people to do their civic duty and complete the Census properly. "The Census is used by business, government, to plan services," he said.

    Well, I’m not suggesting anyone falsely claim they rode to work on Census Day. I’d much rather they actually did ride -- then continued to be a regular bike commuter after that.

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