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  1. Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas for
    a non-alcoholic substitue? The recipe is from Cook's
    Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is served over nectarines,
    blueberries & raspberries, though I may have to come up with
    some substitutes for those as well since they're not exactly
    in season in Massachusetts right now! Actually if you have
    suggestions for what kind of fruits the sauce would go well
    with, that'd be much appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add zest,
    juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    Laura

  2. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas
    for a non-alcoholic


    substitue?

    Quoted message said:

    The recipe is from Cook's Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is
    served over nectarines, blueberries & raspberries, though
    I may have to come up with some substitutes for those as
    well since they're not exactly in season in Massachusetts
    right now! Actually if you have suggestions for what kind


    of

    Quoted message said:

    fruits the sauce would go well with, that'd be much
    appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    I suggest a non-alcoholic dry white wine - Inglenook makes a
    decent one. Lacking that try white grape juice but then cut
    back on the sugar as grape juice is a lot sweeter than
    champagne.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  3. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas
    for a non-alcoholic


    substitue?

    Quoted message said:

    The recipe is from Cook's Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is
    served over nectarines, blueberries & raspberries, though
    I may have to come up with some substitutes for those as
    well since they're not exactly in season in Massachusetts
    right now! Actually if you have suggestions for what kind


    of

    Quoted message said:

    fruits the sauce would go well with, that'd be much
    appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    Laura

    Ginger Ale

    As example: GINGER ALE-FRUIT SALAD 2 tbsp. gelatin
    1/4 c. cold water
    2/2 c. boiling water
    3/4 c. lemon juice 2 tbsp. sugar 1 c. ginger ale 1 c.
    grapes, halved and seeded 1 banana, sliced 1 apple, peeled
    and chopped 2 oranges, sectioned and membranes removed
    4/4 c. chopped nuts

    Soak gelatin in cold water for 5 minutes, dissolved in
    boiling water. Add lemon juice, sugar and ginger ale; let
    set until partially thickened. Fold in fruits and nuts.
    Turn into molds; chill. Serve on lettuce leaves with fruit
    salad dressing.

    DRESSING: 3 tbsp. sugar 4 tbsp. flour 1 c. pineapple juice 2
    eggs, beaten until light 1 tbsp. butter 1 c. cream, whipped

    Mix sugar, flour and enough juice to make smooth paste.
    Heat remaining juice, add flour mixture. Cook until
    thickened, stirring constantly. Place over hot water.

    FRESH FRUIT BOWL

    4 (1oz.) pkg. lemon Jell-O 1 c. boiling water
    4 (2oz.) can frozen lemonade concentrate 12 oz. ginger ale
    1 1/2 gallon cut-up fresh fruit such as cherries,
    strawberries, grapes, cantaloupe, watermelon, bananas,
    peaches, nectarines and kiwi

    In a large bowl stir Jell-O and boiling water until
    dissolved. Add lemonade concentrate and ginger ale. Add
    fruit and stir until well coated. Cover and refrigerate for
    at least 4 hours. If desired, serve in a watermelon shell.
    Makes 1 1/2 gallons.

  4. Not to seem obvious, but what about a non-alcoholic
    champagne? Or white grape juice?

  5. Josh said:


    Not to seem obvious, but what about a non-alcoholic
    champagne? Or white grape juice?

    They do make bubbly grape juice, am I mistaken?

    nancy

  6. Laura said:

    Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas
    for a non-alcoholic substitue? The recipe is from Cook's
    Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is served over nectarines,
    blueberries & raspberries, though I may have to come up
    with some substitutes for those as well since they're not
    exactly in season in Massachusetts right now! Actually if
    you have suggestions for what kind of fruits the sauce
    would go well with, that'd be much appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    Laura

    Welch's makes sparkling white grape juice that's not very
    sweet. It comes in a bottle very similar to sparkling wine.
    It's not expensive, and would be a perfect substitute.

    Ginger ale or tonic would be interesting substitutes if you
    leave out the sugar.

    If you can find *clear* cherry or peach soda it might be
    good.

    -bob

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, "Peter

    Aitken said:

    I suggest a non-alcoholic dry white wine - Inglenook makes
    a decent one. Lacking that try white grape juice but then
    cut back on the sugar as grape juice is a lot sweeter than
    champagne.

    We found a wonderful, not too sweet, sparkling chardonnay
    grape juice made by South Hill Vineyards. The label has a
    hibiscus flower on it.

    Regards, Ranee

    --
    Remove do not and spam to e-mail me.

    "The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord
    of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man."
    Acts 17:24

  8. Thanks everyone for all the ideas! I think I'm going to try
    to find some of that non-alcoholic sparkling white wine.
    Barring that, I'll go for the white grape juice.

    I knew I could count on ya'll to come up with some good
    ideas! Thanks again!

    Laura

    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas
    for a non-alcoholic


    substitue?

    Quoted message said:

    The recipe is from Cook's Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is
    served over nectarines, blueberries & raspberries, though
    I may have to come up with some substitutes for those as
    well since they're not exactly in season in Massachusetts
    right now! Actually if you have suggestions for what kind


    of

    Quoted message said:

    fruits the sauce would go well with, that'd be much
    appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    Laura

  9. Laura said:

    Thanks everyone for all the ideas! I think I'm going to try
    to find some of that non-alcoholic sparkling white wine.
    Barring that, I'll go for the white grape juice.

    I knew I could count on ya'll to come up with some good
    ideas! Thanks again!

    Laura

    Quick question: Why bother looking for a _sparkling_ wine or
    N/A beverage? In the recipe directions it says "Simmer
    champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15
    min." If you simmer any carbonated drink for 15 minutes, be
    it Champagne or Coke® you will certainly drive off any
    "sparkling" it may have had.

    Ross.

  10. Ross Reid said:

    Quick question: Why bother looking for a _sparkling_ wine
    or N/A beverage? In the recipe directions it says "Simmer
    champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15
    min." If you simmer any carbonated drink for 15 minutes,
    be it Champagne or Coke=AE you will certainly drive
    off any "sparkling" it may have had.

    Why not? The champagne would already have been ruined by
    adding cardamom.= lemon zest and lemon juice. Simmering it
    couldn't make it any worse.

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Smith said:

    Why not? The champagne would already have been ruined by
    adding cardamom. lemon zest and lemon juice. Simmering it
    couldn't make it any worse.

    I believe the question was why bother trying to find a
    *carbonated* substitute if simmering for 15 minutes will
    remove any carbonation.

    --
    to respond, change "spamless.invalid" with "optonline.net"
    please mail OT responses only

  12. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas
    for a non-alcoholic substitue? The recipe is from Cook's
    Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is served over nectarines,
    blueberries & raspberries, though I may have to come up
    with some substitutes for those as well since they're not
    exactly in season in Massachusetts right now! Actually if
    you have suggestions for what kind of fruits the sauce
    would go well with, that'd be much appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    Laura

    When we wanted to "pretend" being grown up, when I was in
    junior high, we used catalpa (sp?) juice as a substitute for
    champagne. I think there's a sparkling one - but that was a
    l-o-n-g time ago ;-)

    N.

  13. Nancy Dooley said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    When we wanted to "pretend" being grown up, when I was in
    junior high, we used catalpa (sp?) juice as a substitute
    for champagne. I think there's a sparkling one - but that
    was a l-o-n-g time ago ;-)

    Isn't catalpa those trees that grow what looks like
    green beans?

    nancy

  14. "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I've made this fruit salad many times and love it but want
    to serve it without the champagne. Do you have any ideas
    for a non-alcoholic


    substitue?

    Quoted message said:

    The recipe is from Cook's Illustrated July/Aug 2001 and is
    served over nectarines, blueberries & raspberries, though
    I may have to come up with some substitutes for those as
    well since they're not exactly in season in Massachusetts
    right now! Actually if you have suggestions for what kind


    of

    Quoted message said:

    fruits the sauce would go well with, that'd be much
    appreciated as well.

    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb lemon
    juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    This is obviously the abridged version but you should get
    the picture

    Thanks in advance!

    Laura

    If you want to change the recipe for an alcoholic or
    someone, use club soda.

  15. Kswck said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    1 cup champagne
    1/4 cup sugar pinch salt 1 Tb grated lemon zest 1 Tb
    lemon juice 5 cardamom pods

    Simmer champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15 min. Off heat, add
    zest, juice & cardamom. Steep 1 minute, strain. Pour
    over fruit.

    If you want to change the recipe for an alcoholic or
    someone, use club soda.


    Not sure why anyone would want to cook champagne like that,
    but club soda seems awfully bland. What's wrong with
    Martell's sparkling apple cider?

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

  16. Nancy Young said:
    Nancy Dooley said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    When we wanted to "pretend" being grown up, when I was in
    junior high, we used catalpa (sp?) juice as a substitute
    for champagne. I think there's a sparkling one - but that
    was a l-o-n-g time ago ;-)

    Isn't catalpa those trees that grow what looks like
    green beans?

    nancy

    that's my recollection. had one in the back yard.

    your pal, blake

  17. blake murphy said:


    On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:54:26 -0500, Nancy Young

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Isn't catalpa those trees that grow what looks like
    green beans?

    Quoted message said:

    that's my recollection. had one in the back yard.

    Thanks ... I used to visit on a farm and they had a kaTOBa
    tree. Funny I have one in my yard now.

    nancy

  18. I guess I was just looking for something that might have a
    similar flavor. I ended up using sparkling cider and
    actually liked the results even better than the original.

    Laura

    "Ross Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Laura said:

    Thanks everyone for all the ideas! I think I'm going to
    try to find some


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that non-alcoholic sparkling white wine. Barring that,
    I'll go for the white grape juice.

    I knew I could count on ya'll to come up with some good
    ideas! Thanks again!

    Laura

    Quick question: Why bother looking for a _sparkling_ wine
    or N/A beverage? In the recipe directions it says "Simmer
    champagne, sugar, salt ~ 15
    min." If you simmer any carbonated drink for 15 minutes,
    be it Champagne or Coke® you will certainly drive off
    any "sparkling" it may have had.

    Ross.

  19. Nancy Young said:
    Nancy Dooley said:


    "Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message

    Quoted message said:

    When we wanted to "pretend" being grown up, when I was
    in junior high, we used catalpa (sp?) juice as a
    substitute for champagne. I think there's a sparkling
    one - but that was a l-o-n-g time ago ;-)

    Isn't catalpa those trees that grow what looks like
    green beans?


    I have two street trees that would produce beanlike pods
    if they were female... I don't remember the name, though.
    Looking up Catalpa, I can see they are definately not
    that type.

    So, more than one tree produces what looks like beans.

    Practice safe eating - always use condiments

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