Charles blew me AGAIN!

Aw shoot! You went and busted him. What a loser eh? Not like John the
fat methamphetamine abuser, or Charles the lip-licking BJ boy. Youse
guyz R jus sew smart...

ray miller said:

Quoted message said:

I'm in scotland, not far from Chuckie.

Your posting host is 24.63.68.227
That is owned by
Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc RW2-NORTHEAST-1
Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc. BOSTON-6
according to sam spade

So if charles did blow you, you must be using some particularly
leading edge cybersex equipment. Not that that detracts of course,
It's gotta be the best safe sex since absinence. Hope you enjoyed it
as much as we enjoyed hearing about it.

He's the first person to blow over the Atlantic.

Congratulations on your achievement.

He's the first person to blow over the Atlantic.

Congratulations on your achievement.

Leave it to the english to break THAT record...

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He's the first person to blow over the Atlantic.

Congratulations on your achievement.

Leave it to the english to break THAT record...

You break the record for the most idiotic posts....no [censored]

Quoted message said:

Yes, I keep cuming back for the sex.

these dudes are so stoopid. they'll never understand your genius.

i, too, have enjoyed much of the euro-troll's oral attentions. ya see,
the real trick of it is to get him when he's dithered on spirits. that
way he'll "service" you, perhaps even ignorantly. he'll never know, on
entering into that comfortable, numbing, alcoholic haze. it's fantasy
time. especially if he gets into the hops and barley.. oh... grains
and vines... bzzzzblbzzzzblllbzzzz... and were not talkin' any
new-fangled teledildonics, here. just good old fashioned inner-net
action. the natural way. the way g-d intended.

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:18:22 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yes, I keep cuming back for the sex.

these dudes are so stoopid. they'll never understand your genius.

i, too, have enjoyed much of the euro-troll's oral attentions. ya see,
the real trick of it is to get him when he's dithered on spirits. that
way he'll "service" you, perhaps even ignorantly. he'll never know, on
entering into that comfortable, numbing, alcoholic haze. it's fantasy
time. especially if he gets into the hops and barley.. oh... grains
and vines... bzzzzblbzzzzblllbzzzz... and were not talkin' any
new-fangled teledildonics, here. just good old fashioned inner-net
action. the natural way. the way g-d intended.

It has been obvious since you made your return to the Group Axel, that
all is not well with you.

While you were always a somewhat amusing person, even if a little
zany, it is obvious that you are now but a shadow of your former self.

It becomes clear that you have not taken the advice you were given,
concerning the benefits of the removal of a single frontal lobe. The
choice of a full frontal lobotomy was an unwise one.

However, it does mean that you are now on a par with Bill DAVIDSON
(aka Ms Lucy Fur), and you can indulge with him/her your homosexual
fantasies with another dedicated pervert and half-wit!!

Bottoms up dearies!! ;o)

Quoted message said:

You break the record for the most idiotic posts....no [censored]>

I could not understand you. Didn't your mommy tell you it's not polite
to talk with your mouth full of... well you know.

Notice how he keeps reading these posts? He's just a self-masochist,
and a trolls dream.

Hey moron, lets see if it's more effective if I say it. BILL DAVIDSON
BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDBILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONBILL
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DAVIDSONSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDBILL
DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONSONBILL
DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSONBILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDBILL DAVIDSON BILL
DAVIDSON BILL DAVIDSONSON

There, that should stop me, right? You moron.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You break the record for the most idiotic posts....no [censored]>

I could not understand you. Didn't your mommy tell you it's not polite
to talk with your mouth full of... well you know.

I think its your mouth that is full of.....[censored]

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:28:27 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)

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Charles said:

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:18:22 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)

Quoted message said:

On 28 May 2005 18:19:17 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

>Yes, I keep cuming back for the sex.
>

these dudes are so stoopid. they'll never understand your genius.

i, too, have enjoyed much of the euro-troll's oral attentions. ya see,
the real trick of it is to get him when he's dithered on spirits. that
way he'll "service" you, perhaps even ignorantly. he'll never know, on
entering into that comfortable, numbing, alcoholic haze. it's fantasy
time. especially if he gets into the hops and barley.. oh... grains
and vines... bzzzzblbzzzzblllbzzzz... and were not talkin' any
new-fangled teledildonics, here. just good old fashioned inner-net
action. the natural way. the way g-d intended.

It has been obvious since you made your return to the Group Axel, that
all is not well with you.

While you were always a somewhat amusing person, even if a little
zany, it is obvious that you are now but a shadow of your former self.

It becomes clear that you have not taken the advice you were given,
concerning the benefits of the removal of a single frontal lobe. The
choice of a full frontal lobotomy was an unwise one.

However, it does mean that you are now on a par with Bill DAVIDSON
(aka Ms Lucy Fur), and you can indulge with him/her your homosexual
fantasies with another dedicated pervert and half-wit!!

Bottoms up dearies!! ;o)

you're just miffed that i got you SO GOOD and made you beg for more,
you big, bamboozled, grog-swilling troll! the "charles in charge" of
our little MFW, brought down by one of the little American girlie men!
ha ha! ha ha HA!!

you're just jealous that you weren't invited into the One's own
private matrix (where anything can happen, and DOES!!) so you have to
settle for being "used" by new-age, health-conscious riff-raff!

it's not my fault your a vulnerable nebbish of a TROLL!

;^P "this tongue's for you..."
"Cheating is for people who can't be honest with themselves. Rules are
for people who can't think for themselves. And I'm just not into that." --The Queen of Cans and Jars

Whatever has happened to the Axel we once knew and admired?

Whatever it is that you are on Axel, you should taper off slowly. Do
not even think of cold turkey. With any luck there may not be any
permanent damage.

We want you back Axel just the way you used to be. Get these chemicals
out of your system and rejoin the human race.

Ugh! It's Monday!! ;o(

Charles said:

Whatever has happened to the Axel we once knew and admired?

Ugh! It's Monday!! ;o(

do you mean this one? the one that google erased?:

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whitster said:

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> >Subject: Re: Why do people keep harping on about Jews?
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> >> I'm still working on why "jew" and "atheist" are mutually

exclusive.

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> >>
> >> David
> >> --
> >> The Atheist Jew of MFW
> >> Please No E-mail With Big Words
> >> >
> >
> >A lot of people don't refer to "Jew" as a race or ethnic heritage

but as

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a
> >religion, and athiests naturally don't have any sense of faith,
>
> They don't? I thought they had faith that there is no God?
>

Yep, Atheism IS a religion.

Nope.

David

it certainly can be, or at a minimum is the functional equivalent of one.

look, one cannot know or prove the existence OR the non-existence of god
with logical certainty. well, at least not unless one gets the lucky
burning bush treatment or something. so, to say outright that you know god
doesn't exist is a leap of faith into a belief system, just as other
religions are.

Not speaking solely to whitster here.

I see this place has gotten semantic, and that this stimulating
conversation is taking place in M.F.W.

Allow me to introduce myself. I am using a false name to avoid spam
and I am also afraid to use my real name because this is a religious
issue and I realize that there are many people out there who take this
kind of stuff very seriously to the point of extreme meanness and even
volitionally hostile energies with the intent to inflict harm upon
myself.

Jews, Jews, Jews. Judaism? Jewish people. The Jewish People.
Jewishness. How about kyke? Kykes. Yeah, that word has comforted me
too.

I think it is possible in this day and age to develop an understanding
of life itself, simply as the physically examinable, observable world
of real creatures and even of structures that are not considered
sentient, to possess a "soul" or animating force for coherent,
intelligent, even conscious action and interaction. This can occur
with or without a "God". But those who fail to acknowledge this
incredible aspect of Universe-Consciousness, those unable to
acknowledge the unifying forces that mediate the physical "rules" and
"laws" such that things happen as they do, those are probably
athiests. Those who hide behind a very mechanistic and mathematical
game of probabilities within probabilities and systems within systems
without end, without organization or direction.

These reductionistic athiests are actually hiding behind a mechanistic
worldview created by humankind. Ultimately, fortunately, this
mechanistic Universe or worldview can be uncovered and revealed for
the dry, overintellectualized, delusional contrivance that it really
is. This mechanistic God, this cold, ceaseless, unreactive God of Man
is another illusion, yet another fanciful veil, another form of Maya
to be shattered and left behind. A very modern and hip version of
Maya, certainly, allowed all the myriad variations and invented
intricacies to explain away (as an action of denial/refusal) whatever
new arguments may threaten that viewpoint; but still, in the end
simply what it is (which is still reality, or, part of God though only
an incorrect concept held to by an organism, ultimately as a phenomena
reduced to a display of mind).

I hope that passes as the kind of God that is clung to as an
inaccurate Vision of Reality which some athiests in Western
Civilization ignorantly or unconsciously have created and seek refuge
within.

Science that is not science is a belief system. A belief system,
however erroneous, can be compared to a religious belief system.
Faulty science that is not true science does not need to be considered
by the adherent to be a religion or a pseudo-religious belief system
in order for that believer in faulty science to be a closet religious
person. It is a more pathetic form of a religion.

For are those who reject the simplistic, sometimes crude and almost
always contrived God of Biblical times that possesses these
supernatural (if not all-powerful or omnipotent) powers, or the
polythiestic visions of Gods when interpreted literally (as opposed to
some polythiestic visions of reality and creation and relationships as
they form the world-view psychology of a given people such that they
can think in terms that allows them insight into perceiving deeper
into Reality, or, rather, the boat that must be dropped once the river
is crossed) it is quite possible to be an athiest and yet accept in
non-religious terms MOST of the same incredible phenomena that occur
in the phenomenal Universe (or Universes).

Those who can accept organizing forces and acknowledge the most basic
immanence of consciousness on the most basic, crude and easily
observable level of reality that Science can safely call the physical
universe, those are people who acknowledge organizing principals and
non-local behavior of our phenomenal universe who I think can safely
excuse themselves from the embarassment and distasteful human
organizations of consciousness that serve as our "religions"
(religions in this context being a system of shared rules and
procedures and oftentimes crude worldviews or visions of God that
result in totally unsatisfying relationships and behavior with our
world (God) and ourselves (God) and our own psyches (God)). Those
people may be technically considered as "athiests" but not as
unspiritual or out of tune with reality. They simply refuse to agree
with "religion", they do not accept "religion", they reject something
in the religious and every religion they have encountered such that
they do not believe in the God(s) or Gods presented to them.

These can be considered people who are consciously aware of and deal
with God in personally more agreeable linguistic terms and concepts
than what the modern world of humans has presented to them so far.

Now, in order to honestly attempt to keep things clear I will have to
backtrack and quote myself: "Those people may be technically
considered as "athiests" but not as unspiritual or out of tune with
reality."

By typing that last sentence I have now created the opportunity for
someone to say that I have now inferred that athiests are
"unspiritual" or "out of tune with reality". By saying "out of tune
with reality" I mean someone who is ignorant of some aspect of reality
or possessing a model of reality as a psychological construct
(worldview) that is not congruent with the reality that is being
perceived. This is what I mean when I say someone is out of tune with
reality.

What I mean by "athiests", as a quoted term, I mean as someone who
doesn't believe in whatever they think of when you ask them of their
concept of everyone's use of the word "God". And I mean everyone's.
For if they (the athiest) left the possibility open in their mind that
another human being has an idea of God that is somehow a God that is
possible to them, a God that is an accurate enough idea or concept
upon which a shared concept of something that can be considered God
and used as such comfortably in this (to them) new or resumed working
nomenclature then their innate potential to be either (if you must
choose and classify and engrave names) agnostic has revealed itself--
they have re-awakened to the possibility that the reality that exists
before them does, indeed, exist.* An agreeable, sharable worldview
where God can exist as a psychological worldview (or Universal model
or...) is a place where a person can say they believe or acknowledge
"God" so that they can technically attain the status of a believer in
God, if the Universe's existence were called into question and they
were pressed to emit such a response.

*Acknowledging existence itself is an acknowledgement of God if one
adopts, however temporarily, the idea of God as being Reality itself
(as opposed to the Biblical God which is really another kind of entity
God or God as an Entity) or is elevated to the realm where reality
itself, even the everyday mundane world, is a manifestation of God
just like anything else you could consider (such as the non-mundane
world). This demands a departure from the Entity God which I think
many athiests are referring too. I think the Old Testament or Tenach,
the original Jewish part from which the Christian religion is a
development (offshoot would offend too many, regardless of the
focal-point Messiah's Jewishness) of could contain within it a
sophisticated God or eventual evolution of God to a level of detail
that could satisfy a non-Entity, all-encompassing Reality vision of
God instead of the stereotypical miracles, power-wielding God which
picks and chooses and interferes and has a disposition etc. etc. etc.

I'm writing all of this with the idea of God not as a guy-in-the-sky
God, but with the worldview of God as "All That Is", or the "All that
is Reality" or Reality or just plain all encompassing scientific
reality. Science is the attempt to learn more of God and to represent
order to our own kind (humankind) such that we may understand it more
easily and to discuss it effectively and productively amongst each
other. Science, in this light, is a concerted attempt to discover,
reveal, ultimately to understand God. This is why science cannot be in
conflict with God. We can already see that science is God, divinity is
immanent of all things. True Science can only be God, what is not God
is simply bad science and worth neither belief nor attachment.

While I am defining and tredipatiously extrapolating I want everyone
to know that I am not defining these... er... "sensitive" and/or
"charged" words completely or definitively, just setting the stage so
to speak, as I wish to stress these words in their myriad meanings
with the correct connotations. In this fashion I hope to avoid the
common miscommunications that can occur when a responder simply infers
an incorrect meaning to what I am attempting to communicate with the
words I choose.

Returning to science, I can see science explaining enough of Reality
to run head-on into theology and religion. For in explaining and
exploring God, indeed, in creating God as a psychological construct
that is the mind that thinks and thinks it knows, science runs into
the very heart of Reality itself, how could our psychological model of
Reality exist if we did not exist to perceive and ponder it? To say
that God as Reality does not exist is to nullify everything, even
science. You cannot nullify everything, you would have to nullify
yourself. God simply is, that we can doubt it's existence does not
matter. The athiest/athiesm issue of the presence or absence of God is
going to whip right back into semantics, for it is difficult to assert
that someone *completely* denies existence!

That is, if they aren't athiests hiding behind the term itself and who
are actually believing in a separate and inaccurate worldview (or
whatever you would call it) that athiesm is actually a kind of
religion, or at the very least a variation of a belief system that can
be categorized as a form or rudimentary basis of a religion.

more below this:

Quoted message said:

many activists are not skeptics, that is more properly characterized as
agnostic. imo, agnosticism is not a religion.

whether atheism is a 'religion' is somewhat semantical (duh) depending on
the exact definition of religion one uses.

however, the similarities are that they are both belief systems that require
a 'leap of faith' make them functionally equivalent.

also, in their tactics and such, atheists are very similar to religious
people (the extreme ones in both camps) in that they attempt to proselytize,
convert, and state their case as obvious, that they belittle people who have
different beliefs, that they try to use the legal system to fight their
battles, that they form groups around their belief system, that they
consider themselves beleagured for their beliefs, that they consider their
beliefs the only 'true path' etc. etc. etc.

oops. sounds like i'm talking about hit jedis! 🙂

whit

Quoted message said:

--
The Atheist Jew of MFW
Please No E-mail With Big Words

Quoted message said:

Basically, semantics are extremely important. Semantics are the words
that make up our language, which is about the only thing left to us in
this media (internet usenet newsgroup printed on a photon-emitting
screen with ASCII text representing our alphabet's phonemes, words,
etc. i.e. our language). Semantics are the meaning, the organized
consciousness display that is language as communication.

God as semantics is important, otherwise the arguments are useless.
Semantics are, when one confronts a subject as ludicrously vast as
"God" (OMG! talk about a heavy topic!), is inextricably linked to
communication as that communication (language which is at the mercy of
the semantic meaning) that represents mental concepts, mental output
which in and of itself is a manifestation of consciousness, which is
of course a manifestation of God.

In this post I've had to expend a great deal of energy being *very*
careful how I phrase things, what words I use and how I use them
because semantics are brought up and this is a very heavy topic.

Pardon my ventures into God, I just wanted to repeat and juggle things
in a way that allows for the best understanding for everyone.

We have to define athiesm and religion, or, religion and non-religion.
By taking a look at semantics, with that deeper look into what we are
saying we can easily reveal that many athiests actually believe in a
God.

Once we clear that up we must confront how the athiests are unable to
accept some of the unifying principles and various levels of reality
as they have been discussed and elucidated in ancient religions and in
more modern versions of the functional and scientific
theories/worldviews/philosophies/psychologies. It is reassuring to
note that there are sophisticated cosmologies, worldviews, scientific
theories that are coming to grips with some or much of the
"unexplained" and confusing or even dubious phenomena that occurs in
Reality. From "recent" advancements in science we can see that one
does not need to follow or believe in a religion in order to arrive at
a very intimate, powerful and profound vision of Reality or
understanding of God-- the significance of which can be
transformational.

We must confront thought itself, which, if you have endured to this
point you know I am angling at. Thought is a form of consciousness,
and in this naturally comes the "mind" vs. "matter" B.S. arguments,
subjectivity/objectivity, perception as illusion, etc. etc. All of
this is very tedious and takes more thought than many M.F.W. people
would want to ruminate on.

And that, M.F.W. fiends, is the common boundary for the unenthused
athiest or agnostic. That is the popular dividing line between the dry
athiests and those who feel compelled to investigate for themselves
into the all-pervasive and boundless Universe that is God.

The monks and elite religious adherents who ventured into the gateway
of divinity within our own species, that mystical inner vision that
opened us to the early views and insights into Reality itself, what
remains of them is an indication of what is beyond most people's
poorly thought out and relatively immature understanding of reality.
Before the earliest scriptures existed the shamans, medicine men,
etc.-- these un-labeled mystics knew of such profound
reality-shattering illusions and the dynamic relationship of their own
being to the Universe that immediately challenges most of what we
commonly accept as the limits of our own world(s).

In that paragraph I leave to lysis to answer why he continues harping
on about Jews.

The incredible implications of consciousness-- and psychology as a
determining, controlling or qualitative factor (for good or bad,
health or dysfunction) of that consciousness are *so* vast it reaches
deep into the dark void of human potential itself. It is in this
profound range of the human's relationship to the All, humans'
relationship to the conceptualized "world" that is "out there" and
thought by some as seperate from oneself that radical realizations are
inevitably confronted, these are the issues that penetrate deeply into
why people would seek genocide and hold such hatred against anyone of
a particular social/ethnic group. And why the Jews?

Just in case you thought I wasn't making a point.

Not an athiest, not religious either. But not clueless, not in denial.
"No, jew. Your jew opinion doesn't matter no matter what, jew. Your
writings deserve no comprehension, merely scorn, jew. You are jew."
-August Pamplona quoting Lysis on m.f.w.

"If I died and went to hell, Satan would make me work out in the morning."
-Larry Hodges

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:33:34 GMT, [email hidden] (Axel of the North!)

Quoted message said:

Charles said:

Whatever has happened to the Axel we once knew and admired?

Ugh! It's Monday!! ;o(

do you mean this one?

Er... no!

Quoted message said:

the one that google erased?

Not that I am aware!

[....]

Quoted message said:

Bill Davidson lives in Connecticut, near the small town of Holyolk. He's a Divorced Father of 3, never paid a penny in Child Support and is Convicted Felon for drug dealing to kids. He draws a small check every month for permanent disability to his back and mostly depends on his present wife's income from a fast food outlet, not much of a man.

Quoted message said:

Bill Davidson is now in his 50's, you would never know it from his posts.

Quoted message said:

Be kind to Bill as he's a small man and never had any success in his life. He's considered a failure by his own family who eventually tired of his leeching.

Quoted message said:

Bill Davidson is nothing more than a bitter wee man which explains why he enjoys trolling multiple groups to fill his empty life.

What're you, his parole officer?