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    Angel
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    Here we go again since it seems that it's been a while since we rehashed the use of edta for a self
    administered program oral chelation.Does anybody have first hand experience of initial dosage levels
    and the use of the disodium form and free acid. Any side effects?...thanks , angel

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  2. Jeff
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    "angel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Here we go again since it seems that it's been a while since we rehashed the use of edta for a
    self administered program oral chelation.Does anybody have first hand experience of initial dosage
    levels and the use of the disodium form and free acid. Any side effects?...thanks , angel

    No, it does not have any effects. The EDTA does not get absorbed, so all it does is hang on to the
    calcium until you [censored] it out.

    More information about chelation therapy is here:
    quackwatch.orgchelation.html.

    Jeff

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  3. Doe
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    Subject: Re: chelation therapy From: "Jeff" [email hidden] Date: 11/13/2003 6:02 AM
    Mountain Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "angel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here we go again since it seems that it's been a while since we rehashed the use of edta for a
    self administered program oral chelation.Does anybody have first hand experience of initial
    dosage levels and the use of the disodium form and free acid. Any side effects?...thanks , angel

    No, it does not have any effects. The EDTA does not get absorbed, so all it does is hang on to the
    calcium until you [censored] it out.

    More information about chelation therapy is here:
    quackwatch.orgchelation.html.

    Jeff

    I would take anything this poster says with a grain of salt.

    He knows nothing of chelation ..

    He fully admits he knows nothing of the use of chelating drugs in cancer .. and then comes onto this
    post acting as IF he DOES actually know something about chelators ..

    He is stupid .. and doesn't REALLY give a [censored] that you are genuinely interested in the issue ..

    There are MANY doctors using chelation therapy ..

    Doctors using chelation therapy ..

    chelationforlife.comDefault.htm

    Who loves ya. Tom

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    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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  4. Robert
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    "doe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: chelation therapy From: "Jeff" [email hidden] Date: 11/13/2003 6:02 AM
    Mountain Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "angel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here we go again since it seems that it's been a while since we rehashed the use of edta for a
    self administered program oral chelation.Does anybody have first hand experience of initial
    dosage levels and the use of the disodium form and free acid. Any side effects?...thanks ,
    angel

    No, it does not have any effects. The EDTA does not get absorbed, so all


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    does is hang on to the calcium until you [censored] it out.

    More information about chelation therapy is here:
    quackwatch.orgchelation.html.

    Jeff

    I would take anything this poster says with a grain of salt.

    He knows nothing of chelation ..

    He fully admits he knows nothing of the use of chelating drugs in cancer


    .. and

    Quoted message said:

    then comes onto this post acting as IF he DOES actually know something


    about

    Quoted message said:

    chelators ..

    He is stupid .. and doesn't REALLY give a [censored] that you are genuinely interested in the issue ..

    There are MANY doctors using chelation therapy ..

    Doctors using chelation therapy ..

    It is not oral but IV, oral does nothing.

    Quoted message said:


    chelationforlife.comDefault.htm

    Who loves ya. Tom

    Jesus Was A Vegetarian! jesuswasavegetarian.7h.comjesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!
    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING


    pages.ivillage.comdeadpeoplewalking

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  5. Jeff
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    "doe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: chelation therapy From: "Jeff" [email hidden] Date: 11/13/2003 6:02 AM
    Mountain Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "angel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here we go again since it seems that it's been a while since we rehashed the use of edta for a
    self administered program oral chelation.Does anybody have first hand experience of initial
    dosage levels and the use of the disodium form and free acid. Any side effects?...thanks ,
    angel

    No, it does not have any effects. The EDTA does not get absorbed, so all


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    does is hang on to the calcium until you [censored] it out.

    More information about chelation therapy is here:
    quackwatch.orgchelation.html.

    Jeff

    I would take anything this poster says with a grain of salt.

    I would take anything any poster does with a grain of salt (except people like Doe -- you should
    take a truck load with him).

    Quoted message said:

    He knows nothing of chelation ..

    I understand the conjecture about chelation quite well.

    Quoted message said:

    He fully admits he knows nothing of the use of chelating drugs in cancer


    .. and

    Quoted message said:

    then comes onto this post acting as IF he DOES actually know something


    about

    Quoted message said:

    chelators ..

    Really? When did I ever say I know nothing about the use of chelating drugs in cancer? Because I do
    not beleive that they work (and there is no evidence that they work in humans) does not mean I don't
    know about the use of chelating drugs in cancer.

    I know about the use of matches in gasoline tanks, but that does not mean that I would light a match
    in a gasoline tank, either.

    Quoted message said:

    He is stupid .. and doesn't REALLY give a [censored] that you are genuinely interested in the issue ..

    Actually, I do care that you are geunuinely interested in this issue.

    And the evidence is that:

    1) Chelators don't work to prevent cancer or detoxify.
    2) For EDTA to work, it must get into the blood stream. And for that to happen, it must be used IV
    becuase it is not absorbed.

    Quoted message said:

    There are MANY doctors using chelation therapy ..

    And there are many doctors out there who don't know what they are doing. Or worse, they do know what
    they are doing, but they are doing chelation for the money. The fact is that there is no good
    evidence that chelation works.

    Quoted message said:

    Doctors using chelation therapy ..

    chelationforlife.comDefault.htm

    It seems impressive until you realize that the articles are all old and have major flaws, like very
    few subjects or a just a bad design. Being that this is the best you can do speaks loudly to how
    poor the science is backing chelation.

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    Who loves ya. Tom

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    Jesus Was A Vegetarian! jesuswasavegetarian.7h.comjesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

    Except when he made fish for thousands of people.

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    pages.ivillage.comdeadpeoplewalking

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  6. Robert
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    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    I would take anything any poster does with a grain of salt (except people like Doe -- you should
    take a truck load with him).

    Agree, I was referring to heavy metal detox use such as lead where chelation is used. Urine levels
    are used to follow effective use.

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  7. Jeff
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    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I would take anything any poster does with a grain of salt (except


    people

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like Doe -- you should take a truck load with him).

    Agree, I was referring to heavy metal detox use such as lead where


    chelation

    Quoted message said:

    is used. Urine levels are used to follow effective use.

    I know. But heavy metal detox is one specific area where chelation has been shown to be somewhat
    effective (unfortunately, the chelation is not very good at removing lead from bones and the
    children, as far as I know, don't have much long-term intellectual benefit from the chelation form
    lead poisoning). So, even in this case, chelation is helpful, but doesn't cure.

    Jeff

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  8. Alf Christopher
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    Robert said:

    Agree, I was referring to heavy metal detox use such as lead where chelation is used. Urine levels
    are used to follow effective use.

    Penicillamine is also used for chelation of lead and other heavy metals, but is also very toxic. So
    it must be used with extreme care, in a hospital.

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  9. Robert
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    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I would take anything any poster does with a grain of salt (except


    people

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like Doe -- you should take a truck load with him).

    Agree, I was referring to heavy metal detox use such as lead where


    chelation

    Quoted message said:

    is used. Urine levels are used to follow effective use.

    I know. But heavy metal detox is one specific area where chelation has


    been

    Quoted message said:

    shown to be somewhat effective (unfortunately, the chelation is not very good at removing lead
    from bones and the children, as far as I know, don't have much long-term intellectual benefit from
    the chelation form lead poisoning). So, even in this case, chelation is helpful, but doesn't cure.

    Jeff

    Options are very limited as one tries to get the job done.

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