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  1. I'm curious to know if this article is right? Or were there flaws, as the rejecting journals said in
    their rejection letters. Dr. Blanchard?
    Dr. Chung? Is there anyone here willing to read through this and help me decide? Basically, I want
    to know if Dr. Ravnskov's article is good science, and if the rejecting comments are valid. I
    invite intelligent, civil and respectful discussion. MFG

    From www.thincs.org

    Is the peer-review system a guarantee for quality?

    Most medical journals use the so-called peer-review system. This implies that for being published
    all manuscripts are scrutinized by one or two external specialists (referees) in the issue.

    Here are the comments from five referees, who were asked to review a manuscript by Uffe Ravnskov,
    sent to and rejected by three different medical journals before it was accepted for publication in
    Quarterly Journal of Medicine without any changes.

    Ds. Ravnskov's comments were also sent to the editors of the journals that rejected the article.

    Here are the objections by the referees together with Dr. Ravnskovs responses

    thincs.orgpeer.htm

    You can read the QJM article here

    qjmed.oupjournals.org397

  2. (mfg) said:

    I'm curious to know if this article is right? Or were there flaws, as the rejecting journals said
    in their rejection letters. Dr. Blanchard?
    Dr. Chung? Is there anyone here willing to read through this and help me decide? Basically, I want
    to know if Dr. Ravnskov's article is good science, and if the rejecting comments are valid. I
    invite intelligent, civil and respectful discussion. MFG

    It's about time! Thank you.

    I repectfully bow out - I tried reading it but lack proper medical knowledge to make a judgement on
    it, pro or con. I look forward to others comments.

    Quoted message said:

    From www.thincs.org

    Is the peer-review system a guarantee for quality?

    Most medical journals use the so-called peer-review system. This implies that for being published
    all manuscripts are scrutinized by one or two external specialists (referees) in the issue.

    Here are the comments from five referees, who were asked to review a manuscript by Uffe Ravnskov,
    sent to and rejected by three different medical journals before it was accepted for publication in
    Quarterly Journal of Medicine without any changes.

    Dr. Ravnskov's comments were also sent to the editors of the journals that rejected the article.

    Here are the objections by the referees together with Dr. Ravnskovs responses

    thincs.orgpeer.htm

    You can read the QJM article here

    qjmed.oupjournals.org397

  3. Am I correct that the articles say the fatter we get the better off we are? So that the more obese
    we become, the more "fit"?

    Now to get off the diet and eat, eat, eat, carbos & meat....

    mfg said:

    I'm curious to know if this article is right? Or were there flaws, as the rejecting journals said
    in their rejection letters. Dr. Blanchard?
    Dr. Chung? Is there anyone here willing to read through this and help me decide? Basically, I want
    to know if Dr. Ravnskov's article is good science, and if the rejecting comments are valid. I
    invite intelligent, civil and respectful discussion. MFG

    From www.thincs.org

    Is the peer-review system a guarantee for quality?

    Most medical journals use the so-called peer-review system. This implies that for being published
    all manuscripts are scrutinized by one or two external specialists (referees) in the issue.

    Here are the comments from five referees, who were asked to review a manuscript by Uffe Ravnskov,
    sent to and rejected by three different medical journals before it was accepted for publication in
    Quarterly Journal of Medicine without any changes.

    Dr. Ravnskov's comments were also sent to the editors of the journals that rejected the article.

    Here are the objections by the referees together with Dr. Ravnskovs responses

    thincs.orgpeer.htm

    You can read the QJM article here

    qjmed.oupjournals.org397

  4. lew@csus_spam_goto_ca_doj.edu wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Am I correct that the articles say the fatter we get the better off we are? So that the more obese
    we become, the more "fit"?

    Now to get off the diet and eat, eat, eat, carbos & meat....

    Fatter extremely sick people may be more likely to live longer than skinny extremely sick people.
    --
    Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

  5. lew@csus_spam_goto_ca_doj.edu said:

    Am I correct that the articles say the fatter we get the better off we are?

    So it would seem.

    Quoted message said:

    So that the more obese we become, the more "fit"?

    What really is happening is that the more "fit" we are, the heartier is our appetite.

    Quoted message said:


    Now to get off the diet and eat, eat, eat, carbos & meat....

    ... and become *morbidly* obese.

    Not.

    If you are overweight and afflicted by all the ailments associated with being overweight
    (hypertension, cholesterol, arthritis, acid reflux, sleep apnea, et cetera), would suggest you ask
    your doctor about the 2PD approach:

    heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  6. Jim Chinnis said:

    lew@csus_spam_goto_ca_doj.edu wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Am I correct that the articles say the fatter we get the better off we are? So that the more
    obese we become, the more "fit"?

    Now to get off the diet and eat, eat, eat, carbos & meat....

    Fatter extremely sick people may be more likely to live longer than skinny extremely sick people.

    Or they may not.

    Remember Jim Candy.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  7. Chris Farley

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jim Chinnis said:

    lew@csus_spam_goto_ca_doj.edu wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Am I correct that the articles say the fatter we get the better off we are? So that the more
    obese we become, the more "fit"?

    Now to get off the diet and eat, eat, eat, carbos & meat....

    Fatter extremely sick people may be more likely to live longer than


    skinny

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    extremely sick people.

    Or they may not.

    Remember Jim Candy.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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