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  1. Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Bicyclists Accuse DJs of Inciting Attacks Sat Nov 1, 1:08 PM ET

    By CONNIE MABIN, Associated Press Writer

    CLEVELAND - Bicyclists are demanding that the nation's largest radio group be punished because disc
    jockeys at three stations made on-air comments they say encouraged drivers to throw bottles at bike
    riders or hit them with open car doors.

    They say the morning show hosts at Clear Channel Communications stations in Cleveland, Houston and
    Raleigh, N.C., also suggested motorists blast horns at cyclists, and speed past them and slam on
    their brakes in front of them.

    "DJs encouraging the masses to hurt people in any form is insipid, and should not go unpunished,"
    said Edwin D. Reeves, 30, a cyclist and ceramic engineer in St. Louis.

    Clear Channel, based in San Antonio, owns roughly 1,200 radio stations in the United States.

    The company won't release transcripts or tapes of the broadcasts, but the three stations apologized
    on the air and Clear Channel donated $10,000 and air time to promote bicycle safety.

    "We deeply regret that comments made by on-air personalities were misinterpreted. Clear Channel does
    not condone violence in any form and we are committed to working with the cycling community to
    improve cycling safety," chief executive John Hogan said in a statement.

    Clear Channel, which said it was coincidental that similar comments came from three stations, said
    it told the stations to refer questions to corporate headquarters. It wouldn't say if the disc
    jockeys were disciplined.

    The comments started June 30 on WMJI in Cleveland when one of the morning show personalities
    complained that a group of bicyclists had held him up in traffic near his home.

    "The other guys started chiming in," said listener Don Barnett, service manager at Century Cycles in
    Medina. "Then it escalated. People started calling in."

    Similar remarks came weeks later on WDCG-FM in Raleigh and KLOL-FM in Houston.

    Lois Cowan, 42, who owns the Century Cycles shops in the Cleveland area, filed a complaint with the
    Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) asking it to fine the company or take away the
    licenses of the three stations.

    "They shouldn't be advocating things that kill people," Cowan said.

    She says she's received more than 5,000 e-mails from cyclists about the issue.

    Dorothy Nance of Raleigh said she and her husband sold their Clear Channel stock after she heard the
    bicycle comments on WDCG on Sept.
    22.

    Nance said the announcers were "egging listeners on, by encouraging harm to cyclists." Suggestions
    included throwing soft drink bottles, she said.

    Thomas F. Valone, owner of seven outdoor clothing and equipment stores in North Carolina, pulled "a
    few thousand dollars" worth of advertising from the Raleigh station because of the comments.

    FCC lawyers refuse to comment on specific complaints.

    "We got a complaint about that and we are acting on that," FCC Chairman Michael K. Powell told
    the cyclists

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  2. "L Smithson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Clear Channel Corporation itself is not up to no good.

    There were a few DJ's at CC owned stations who made some bonehead comments that did the damage,
    their statements and opinions were not those of the CC Corporation.

    Clear Channel has apologized, sanctioned the people involved and donated $$ to bicycle safety areas
    in response to the employees blunders.

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  3. Gary Mishler said:

    "L Smithson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Clear Channel Corporation itself is not up to no good.

    There were a few DJ's at CC owned stations who made some bonehead comments that did the damage,
    their statements and opinions were not those of the CC Corporation.

    Clear Channel has apologized, sanctioned the people involved and donated $$ to bicycle safety areas
    in response to the employees blunders.


    Their tactic sure worked well on you. Those were not blunders, ... rather criminal acts, and the
    perpetrators should be prosecuted - not swept under the corporate rug. What's $10k to Clear Channel?
    Bupkis. Those involved should be prosecuted for inciting violence - for using their privileged
    position to clearly target cyclists as some sort of public enemy, and calling on the public to
    physically assault them.

    This can not be swept under some $10k corporate rug.

    If you have enough money, you're allowed to punish yourself, and the courts should leave you alone?

    Oh yeah, ... I forgot; this is the *American* system of ju$tice.

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  4. "Chuck Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:heepb.86872$Fm2.68690@attbi_s04...

    Quoted message said:
    Gary Mishler said:

    "L Smithson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Clear Channel Corporation itself is not up to no good.

    There were a few DJ's at CC owned stations who made some bonehead


    comments

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that did the damage, their statements and opinions were not those of the


    CC

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Corporation.

    Clear Channel has apologized, sanctioned the people involved and donated


    $$

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to bicycle safety areas in response to the employees blunders.


    Their tactic sure worked well on you. Those were not blunders, ... rather criminal acts, and the
    perpetrators should be prosecuted - not swept under the corporate rug. What's $10k to Clear
    Channel? Bupkis. Those involved should be prosecuted for inciting violence - for using their
    privileged position to clearly target cyclists as some sort of public enemy, and calling on the
    public to physically assault them.

    This can not be swept under some $10k corporate rug.

    If you have enough money, you're allowed to punish yourself, and the courts should leave
    you alone?

    I found it especially condescending that the best apology the company could come up with was, "We
    deeply regret that comments made by on-air personalities were misinterpreted." Granted, I haven't
    actually heard the broadcasts or seen transcripts, but from what I understand, these DJs were
    blatantly encouraging assaults on cyclists. That sort of statement is hard to "misinterpret".

    Inattentive, inebriated, and sleepy drivers are dangerous enough. The last thing we need is (more)
    motorists who are openly hostile towards cyclists.

    --Josh

  5. What other intersection of interests is involved here but those of CCC? Divers states, stations and
    people but the intersection is CCCorporation.

    My local news station is a CCC and the host, that I am listening to as I write, has skirted actively
    anti-cyclist statements. He says 'might makes right' and 'you may be right but you will be dead
    right'! How should I interpret this and what action is appropriate? What can be done in a community
    of 'social' cycling activists - activists as long as they're not discommoded by activism or
    motorists?

    I disagree. Break Clear Channel Communications.

    "Gary Mishler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xicpb.85991$HS4.713296@attbi_s01...

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    "L Smithson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Clear Channel Corporation itself is not up to no good.

    There were a few DJ's at CC owned stations who made some bonehead comments that did the damage,
    their statements and opinions were not those of the


    CC

    Quoted message said:

    Corporation.

    Clear Channel has apologized, sanctioned the people involved and donated


    $$

    Quoted message said:

    to bicycle safety areas in response to the employees blunders.

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  6. To say CC is "not up to no good" because they gave some money and apologized is ludicrous. It would
    be understandable if after the first time it happened CC took care of it, but the fact that it has
    happened in 3 seperate towns now means this is now a CC problem and not the little individual
    stations problem. What the are paying and doing amounts to nothing but extra advertising for them
    and their stations. If CC was serious about stopping the hostility, they would stop it. They would
    impose a system where the DJ's are responsible for their actions and the DJ's would know ahead of
    time the results of their actions (fines, being fired, etc.).

    Now if only the FCC would actually stand up for themselves instead of rolling over everytime and
    looking the other way...

    DT

    "Gary Mishler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "L Smithson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Clear Channel Corporation itself is not up to no good.

    There were a few DJ's at CC owned stations who made some bonehead comments that did the damage,
    their statements and opinions were not those of the CC Corporation.

    Clear Channel has apologized, sanctioned the people involved and donated $$ to bicycle safety
    areas in response to the employees blunders.

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  7. Doug Huffman said:

    I disagree. Break Clear Channel Communications.

    Who's going to do that? Certainly not the FCC under the Bush Administration. And please, don't top
    post- it makes it really hard to reply to your statements with any reasonably logical flow.

    Quoted message said:

    "Gary Mishler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "L Smithson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Clear Channel Corporation itself is not up to no good.

    There were a few DJ's at CC owned stations who made some bonehead comments that did the damage,
    their statements and opinions were not those of the CC Corporation.

    Clear Channel has apologized, sanctioned the people involved and donated $$ to bicycle safety
    areas in response to the employees blunders.

    Well, they've apologized, anyway. The employees in question have in some cases remained on the air,
    and in one case simply repeated and even escalated their comments in the following days. Clear
    Channel clearly doesn't give a rat's ass- their only concern is market share and revenues.

    Welcome to the brave new world.

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  8. [email hidden] (L Smithson) wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Clear Channel is again up to no good:

    Bicyclists Accuse DJs of Inciting Attacks Sat Nov 1, 1:08 PM ET ...

    Over the last several days the conduct of motorists has been more antagonistic than normal in the
    northern NJ area (Bergen County, Passaic County, Morris County, Rockland County (NY)). The article
    explains a probable reason (other than the recent increased sunspot activity). At least two
    motorists honked their horns for a prolonged period of time while passing in addition to more rude
    comments than normal.

    I hope the "good old days" will return, when motorists would say "Go Lance".

    Lewis Metzger [email hidden] Fair Lawn, NJ

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  9. Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden] (Lewis Metzger)

    Quoted message said:

    Over the last several days the conduct of motorists has been more antagonistic than normal in the
    northern NJ area (Bergen County, Passaic County, Morris County, Rockland County (NY)). The article
    explains a probable reason (other than the recent increased sunspot activity). At least two
    motorists honked their horns for a prolonged period of time while passing in addition to more rude
    comments than normal.

    Quoted message said:

    I hope the "good old days" will return, when motorists would say "Go Lance".

    Lewis Metzger [email hidden] Fair Lawn, NJ

    This is a great argument for concealed carry for cyclists. Rather than whine when they hit you and
    speed off, you can put a .45ACP into the back of their head. Life's a [censored], then you live some
    more. Bill C

  10. Tim McNamara said:

    Who's going to do that? Certainly not the FCC under the Bush Administration.

    When has the FCC ever done anything, regardless of any administration? They meet, appoint a
    commission, and years later issue a meaningless report that doesn't say anything, much less find any
    wrong-doing.

    I find the oft-inserted political comments of any persuasion on a bike-related board puerile,
    sophmoric, and tiresome, much more so than top posting.

    Alexander Gilchrist

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  11. [email hidden] (TritonRider) wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden] (Lewis Metzger)

    Quoted message said:

    Over the last several days the conduct of motorists has been more antagonistic than normal in the
    northern NJ area (Bergen County, Passaic County, Morris County, Rockland County (NY)). The
    article explains a probable reason (other than the recent increased sunspot activity). At least
    two motorists honked their horns for a prolonged period of time while passing in addition to more
    rude comments than normal.

    Quoted message said:

    I hope the "good old days" will return, when motorists would say "Go Lance".

    Lewis Metzger [email hidden] Fair Lawn, NJ

    This is a great argument for concealed carry for cyclists. Rather than whine when they hit you
    and speed off, you can put a .45ACP into the back of their head. Life's a [censored], then you live
    some more. Bill C

    This actually made me think of a serious question. Do people caryy anything for protection when
    bike riding.

    I frequently end up in minor alteractions with moderist which usually end with me squirting gatorade
    on their windshield or spitting on their car. I am sure there is a good chance that eventually one
    of these times the person will get out of his car and beat me down, however, I have only once had a
    driver get out of his car (I was actually a pedestrian at the time) after one of my luggie attacks,
    at which point I started sprinting at him. He quickly reconsidered and got back in and got only got
    a quarter panel kick for his troubles. Come to think of it... Hope my luck holds...

    Needless to say I hate motorists, I hate SUV's, I hate people who don't unerstand that pedestrians
    have the right of way, I hate cars who try to swerve around you when your in a crosswalk, I hate
    people who scream at you while breaking three laws to get around you 50 feet in front of a red light
    or when you're going the speed limit, I hate cars who tailgate you in the rain, I hate them all! Get
    the f'ck out of your SUV and try walking or riding a bike every now and then you ignorant clinically
    obese, cammel smoking tub of amorphic blubber, you disgust me. I hate you all.

    Sorry somehow this post degraded into a rant... Apparently I have some unresolved issues

  12. (TritonRider) said:

    I know I don't but there have been a couple of times I would've gladly pepper sprayed an idiot
    or dog.

    I used to carry pepper spray when I lived in the states. Dogs have good enough noses that even a
    wiff of it sends them in the other direction. I never managed to hit one straight on, but just the
    stream of the stuff headed their way made them turn tail and run.

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  13. In article said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden] (Lewis Metzger)

    Quoted message said:

    Over the last several days the conduct of motorists has been more antagonistic than normal in the
    northern NJ area (Bergen County, Passaic County, Morris County, Rockland County (NY)). The
    article explains a probable reason (other than the recent increased sunspot activity). At least
    two motorists honked their horns for a prolonged period of time while passing in addition to more
    rude comments than normal.

    Quoted message said:

    I hope the "good old days" will return, when motorists would say "Go Lance".

    Lewis Metzger [email hidden] Fair Lawn, NJ

    This is a great argument for concealed carry for cyclists. Rather than whine when they hit you
    and speed off, you can put a .45ACP into the back of their head. Life's a [censored], then you live
    some more. Bill C

    Yeah, Bill, but a piece with any heft to it stretches a jersey pocket out into something a giant
    marsupial could use to carry its young. Plus it's tough to hit a vital organ on these fat [censored].
    Pump a chamber load into their bellies as they exit the F-350 and it's just more weight for when
    they fall on you like a ton of bricks molded from Spam, hair and body odor.

    Cheers,

    Patrick O'Grady Mad Dog Media maddogmedia.commaddogmedia.com

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