Clipless for wide feet

Hi, I wear 14 or 15 E to EEE depending on the shoe brand and what is available. I've owned a few
shoes that fit. I had a pair of Cannondale mountain bike shoes (can't remember the model offhand)
that weren't quite long enough and had a problem with clearance with the crank with my Speedplay
Frog pedals. I solved the clearance problem with a product called Kneesavers that effectively
extended the pedal length by about half an inch but I never got past the size problem. I had a pair
of Diadora mountain shoes that worked fine but they weren't quite stiff enough given a foot problem
that I have. I can't remember if they had the clearance problem or not. I currently ride in a pair
of Sidi Mega Dominators (recessed cleat mountain shoe but not bulky like the Cannondales were) and
don't need the spacers on the pedal. The Mega is an extra-wide shoe. They also make a Mega width
road shoe- I think in the Genus model (at least it used to be there). These shoes have worked out
great but they're not cheap. I think I paid about $175 from one of the big mail order places like
Nashbar. Good luck. It is a pain finding big shoes that work. Lyle

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I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably priced) and Look (nice...)
pedals a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am someone who absolutely needs
4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and order something (there's no
cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me shoe width and crank
clearance?

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I am someone who absolutely needs 4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and
order something (there's no cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me
shoe width and crank clearance?

You gotta try them on. I have some E's after my size, too. But my heel falls out of the Sidi Mega.
Happiness with a Sidi half size, lots more toe box room than the even (at least between 45-45 1/2)
size, good heel fit.

(You asked): I like the ratchet strap on the Sidi's, prefer the Gen III's to the IV's, don't like
the fishing line buckles on the Rev's. The ratchet makes it easy to get the shoe adjusted on the
fly, again the III model is easier to use than the IV, IME.

The price for wearing bad-fitting shoes, esp. too short, can be very, very high-- much higher than a
$220 pair of cycling shoes from a bike store. --Tom Paterson

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I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably priced) and Look (nice...) pedals
a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am someone who absolutely needs 4E shoes
(an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and order something (there's no cycle butiques
anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me shoe width and crank clearance?

I find that wide sizes of Lake shoes are roomy. They are available in a number of styles and prices. If buying on line, just be prepaired to send 'em back if they are not comfortable. I consider myself lucky if I get a good fit on the first try. But I think there is an advantage to trying them at home because you are more relaxed and can leave them on for a long while before deciding.

It was easy to locate the SPD cleats on my wide Lake shoes so that the shoes clear the cranks. Not a problem.

Steve Shapiro [email hidden]

I have size 13 EEE and bought a pair of Shimano higher end road shoes (black with composite sole and
three straps) that fit very well - plenty of width. "Adam Rush" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably priced) and Look (nice...)
pedals a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am someone who absolutely needs
4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and order something (there's no
cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me shoe width and crank
clearance?

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I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably priced) and Look (nice...)
pedals a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am someone who absolutely needs
4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and order something (there's no
cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me shoe width and crank
clearance?

Dear Adam,

Sorry, but Damon Runyon warned me to have nothing to do with guys like you:

"Off and on I know Feet Samuels a matter of eight years or ten years, up and down Broadway, and in
and out, but I never have much truck with him because he is a guy I consider no dice. In fact, he
does not mean a thing.

"In the first place, Feet Samuels is generally broke, and there is no percentage in hanging around
brokers. The way I look at it, you are not going to get anything off a guy who has not got anything.
So while I am very sorry for brokers, and I am always willing to hope that they get hold of
something, I do not like to be around them. . . .

"He is a big heavy guy with several chins and very funny feet, which is why he is called Feet. These
feet are extra large feet, even for a big guy, and Dave the Dude says Feet wears violin cases for
shoes. Of course this is not true because Feet cannot get either of his feet in a violin case,
unless it is a case for a very large violin, such as a cello. I see Feet one night in the Hot Box,
which is a night club, dancing with a doll by the name of Hortense Hathaway, who is in Georgie
White's 'Scandals," and what is she doing but standing on Feet's feet as if she is on sled runners,
and Feet never knows it. He only thinks the old gondolas are a little extra heavy to shove around
this night, because Hortense is no invalid. In fact, she is a good rangy welterweight. . . .

"I must tell you more about Feet's feet, because they are very remarkable feet indeed. They go off
at different directions under him, so if you see Feet standing on a corner it is very difficult to
tell which way he is going, because one foot will be headed one way, and the other foot the other
way. In fact, guys around Mindy's restaurant often make bets on the proposition as to which way Feet
is headed when he is standing still.

"What Feet Samuels does for a living is the best he can, which is the same thing many other guys in
this town do for a living. . . ."

"A Very Honorable Guy" -- Damon Runyon

Feet Samuels ends up with his credit ruined forever on Broadway and nothing but the girl and some
Newark municipal bonds--which I am told are not bad bonds, at that--so you see I cannot dream of
giving you any advice.

Carl Fogel

Adam Rush said:

I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably priced) and Look (nice...)
pedals a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am someone who absolutely needs
4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and order something (there's no
cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me shoe width and crank
clearance?

MKS has a pedal called Sylvan-T. It's their usual solid-body design but very wide and without the
small bit sticking up on the outside like all the other road pedals. Additionally, you can mount the
toeclip off-center a bit to the outside if needed.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably priced) and Look (nice...)
pedals a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am someone who absolutely
needs 4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and order something (there's
no cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give me shoe width and crank
clearance?

MKS has a pedal called Sylvan-T. It's their usual solid-body design but very wide and without the
small bit sticking up on the outside like all the other road pedals. Additionally, you can mount
the toeclip off-center a bit to the outside if needed.

Okay, that pedal looked awfully familiar. So I checked my old Sekai. Yes, I already own those pedals
and they are fantastic. They are the reason why I like toeclips so much more than clipless. But, I
would still like to get into clipless pedals.

On that note, am I correct in believing that you run Yellow Jersey? In which case, you are just
about the only person on the internet with information about Sekai which is not Tange-related. I
would like to get information on this bicycle and perhaps new parts and decals. Do you have much
information anymore on what you sold from them? I normally live north of Chicago, so I'd be willing
to do business.

(ar)>>>I am a hopeless devotee of toeclips. I have tried SPD (reasonably

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priced) and Look (nice...) pedals a handful of times and I do see things to like. However, I am
someone who absolutely needs 4E shoes (an American measure of shoe width). Before I go out and
order something (there's no cycle butiques anywhere around here), what do you recommend to give
me shoe width and crank clearance?

(am)>>MKS has a pedal called Sylvan-T. It's their usual

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solid-body design but very wide and without the small bit sticking up on the outside like all
the other road pedals. Additionally, you can mount the toeclip off-center a bit to the outside
if needed.

Adam Rush said:

Okay, that pedal looked awfully familiar. So I checked my old Sekai. Yes, I already own those
pedals and they are fantastic. They are the reason why I like toeclips so much more than clipless.
But, I would still like to get into clipless pedals.

On that note, am I correct in believing that you run Yellow Jersey? In which case, you are just
about the only person on the internet with information about Sekai which is not Tange-related. I
would like to get information on this bicycle and perhaps new parts and decals. Do you have much
information anymore on what you sold from them? I normally live north of Chicago, so I'd be
willing to do business.

We'll chat directly.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971