Co-op not cycle friendly

PassingTyke said the following on 16/04/2007 12:52:

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I've emailed the Co-op about the lack of cycle parking locally, but am
curious to know whether this is only a problem in my area or whether
they are falling down on this nationally.

Can't speak for Co-op, but a local branch of a mini-market chain has
nice little loops in the wall that can just about be used to lock a bike
up to. For some reason dog-owners get irate :-)

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PassingTyke said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem to
be quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

I ask because of the ones I use, 3 have small car parks and plenty of
space to accommodate a cycle stand or 2, yet none are provided. I find
this particularly annoying as the Co-op actively promotes itself as an
ethical and environmentally friendly business.

I've emailed the Co-op about the lack of cycle parking locally, but am
curious to know whether this is only a problem in my area or whether
they are falling down on this nationally.

My local "big" co-op has excellent bicycle facs, in pride of place
near the entrance.

Actually, the local Tesco does too.

BugBear

Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

PassingTyke said the following on 16/04/2007 12:52:

Quoted message said:

I've emailed the Co-op about the lack of cycle parking locally, but am
curious to know whether this is only a problem in my area or whether
they are falling down on this nationally.

Can't speak for Co-op, but a local branch of a mini-market chain has
nice little loops in the wall that can just about be used to lock a bike
up to. For some reason dog-owners get irate :-)

You can't carry much shopping on a dog, so why should they provide dog
parking spaces?

David Lloyd

David Lloyd said the following on 16/04/2007 13:41:

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You can't carry much shopping on a dog, so why should they provide dog
parking spaces?

That's my thinking :-)

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David Lloyd said the following on 16/04/2007 13:41:

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You can't carry much shopping on a dog, so why should they provide dog
parking spaces?

That's my thinking :-)

There is usually a sign on the door that prevents you taking all but
assistance dogs in though, so they feel a need to provide a place to park
the dog.

There is no such sign to prevent you taking your bike in so perhaps you
should. If it has panniers it could double as a trolley :-))

Dave

David Lloyd said:

Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

Can't speak for Co-op, but a local branch of a mini-market chain has
nice little loops in the wall that can just about be used to lock a bike
up to. For some reason dog-owners get irate :-)

You can't carry much shopping on a dog, so why should they provide dog
parking spaces?

http://www.canine-spirit.com/shop/detail.asp?prodid=26&prodsecid=3
18 litres is probably all the shopping I'd buy from the local mini-market
instead of going to a full size supermarket anyway.

PassingTyke said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem
to be quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

I ask because of the ones I use, 3 have small car parks and plenty of
space to accommodate a cycle stand or 2, yet none are provided. I
find this particularly annoying as the Co-op actively promotes itself
as an ethical and environmentally friendly business.

I've emailed the Co-op about the lack of cycle parking locally, but am
curious to know whether this is only a problem in my area or whether
they are falling down on this nationally.

My local village Co-op branch has some Sheffield stands, as well as some
convienient poles supporting a canopy. Most of the "keep the cars on the
road and carpark" metal posts have a Co-op label on them, so I guess they
also financed the stands.

- Nigel

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:52:12 +0100 someone who may be PassingTyke
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem to
be quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

The equivalent Co-op near where I live often has bikes parked inside
the shop, just inside the door in the Post Office bit. I have never
heard anyone complain, other than when children lie them down on the
floor rather then leaning them against the window.

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David Hansen <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:52:12 +0100 someone who may be PassingTyke
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem to
be quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

The equivalent Co-op near where I live often has bikes parked inside
the shop, just inside the door in the Post Office bit. I have never
heard anyone complain, other than when children lie them down on the
floor rather then leaning them against the window.

The two smallish co-ops near me (in Leicester) do not have cycle parking
facilities. One has a good sized car park - the other is a major source of
congestion!

On 16 Apr 2007 05:41:53 -0700, "David Lloyd" <[email hidden]>

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Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

PassingTyke said the following on 16/04/2007 12:52:

Quoted message said:

I've emailed the Co-op about the lack of cycle parking locally, but am
curious to know whether this is only a problem in my area or whether
they are falling down on this nationally.

Can't speak for Co-op, but a local branch of a mini-market chain has
nice little loops in the wall that can just about be used to lock a bike
up to. For some reason dog-owners get irate :-)

You can't carry much shopping on a dog, so why should they provide dog
parking spaces?

http://tinyurl.com/2wpggh from
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David Hansen said:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:52:12 +0100 someone who may be PassingTyke
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem to
be quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

The equivalent Co-op near where I live often has bikes parked inside
the shop, just inside the door in the Post Office bit. I have never
heard anyone complain, other than when children lie them down on the
floor rather then leaning them against the window.

I don't know if we have a Co-op near us, but the local supermarket seems
to park their bikes inside, all to buy for an amazingly small amount.
There is nowhere to park outside unless you want to either a) use the
railing at the fire exit or b) go to the other end of the carp ark where
the cycle stands are currently being used as a trolley drop off point.

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PassingTyke said:

I've emailed the Co-op about the lack of cycle parking locally, but am
curious to know whether this is only a problem in my area or whether
they are falling down on this nationally.

None of the Co-op store chains are truly national AFAIK. I think
most West Yorkshire small stores may be owned by United Co-operatives
(united.coop, formerly leeds.coop, check at http://www.cooponline.coop ).
Did you email the right Co-op?

In West Norfolk, stores are owned by Anglia Regional Cooperative Society
(arcs.co.uk) and all food stores had ample cycle parking, although
sometimes old wheelbenders.

In North Somerset, the stores are owned by the Co-operative Group/Conveco
(currently branded 'Co-op Welcome'😉. Of the ones I visit, Worle has
ample cycle parking nearby and Weston town centre has no parking but
ample railings nearby. The local council says its site will be
redeveloped, so it doesn't seem worth installing parking just to be
demolished.

So in short, most of the Co-op food stores I know have good cycle parking.
Good luck in getting it at your local store. It really should be like
pushing at an open door. Some councils even offer parking stands if
the storeholder allocates some space for it.

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Quoted message said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem to be
quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

I ask because of the ones I use, 3 have small car parks and plenty of
space to accommodate a cycle stand or 2, yet none are provided. I find
this particularly annoying as the Co-op actively promotes itself as an
ethical and environmentally friendly business.

In my day we would just rest the bike against a wall!

Which I still tend to do when I can muster enough energy to get the bike out
of the garage!

Alan

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David Lloyd said:

Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

Can't speak for Co-op, but a local branch of a mini-market chain has
nice little loops in the wall that can just about be used to lock a bike
up to. For some reason dog-owners get irate :-)

You can't carry much shopping on a dog, so why should they provide dog
parking spaces?

http://www.canine-spirit.com/shop/detail.asp?prodid=26&prodsecid=3
18 litres is probably all the shopping I'd buy from the local mini-market
instead of going to a full size supermarket anyway.

That's a lot of beer!

Alan Holmes said the following on 17/04/2007 13:13:

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In my day we would just rest the bike against a wall!

Many insurance companies stipulate that the bike is secured to an
immovable object. A wall is immovable, but you can't wrap a U-lock
around the whole building!

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Paul Boyd said:

Many insurance companies stipulate that the bike is secured to an
immovable object. A wall is immovable, but you can't wrap a U-lock
around the whole building!

cable locks & lamp-posts 🙂

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PassingTyke said:

Does anyone here use any of those small Co-op minimarkets which seem to
be quite common around where I live (West Yorkshire)?

Our local Co-op supermarket (north Leeds) also has no provision for
cycle parking. I tend to leave my bike in the foyer with the back wheel
locked. One cyclist I saw wheeling his bike around the shop was asked to
leave it inside the shop next to the row of seats they have next to the
tobacco counter. I really should write to them and suggest providing
Sheffield stands. I don't think they own the (large) car park though, so
there might be difficulties.

Bob

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Quoted message said:

Many insurance companies stipulate that the bike is secured to an
immovable object. A wall is immovable, but you can't wrap a U-lock
around the whole building!

Sounds like a job for Christo & Jeanne-Claude...

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