Coenzyme Q10 (CQ10)

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Is Coenzyme Q10 (CQ10) a valuable supplement that all
Cardiologists should consider treating their patients
with? According to a friend, any Cardiologist who does not
is an idiot. I though I'd ask here if its true.

I disagree with the "idiot" part - you will find a variety
of opinions. I have seen nothing to suggest it is unsafe,
however. People do claim it helps with CHF and those taking
statins. Also as a general anti-oxidant.

Bill

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According to a friend, any Cardiologist who does not is an
idiot. I though I'd ask here if its true.

Not a good way to phrase a question on a cardiology NG.
CoQ10 and cholesterol share the same pathway in the liver
for endogenous production, thus many believe, including
myself that those on statins should be advised to take it.
Also some good evidence of benefit for those with CHF as was
mentioned.

Chuck

Pat said:

Is Coenzyme Q10 (CQ10) a valuable supplement that all
Cardiologists should consider treating their patients
with? According to a friend, any Cardiologist who does not
is an idiot. I though I'd ask here if its true.

It is not presently.

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Quoted message said:

According to a friend, any Cardiologist who does not is
an idiot. I though I'd ask here if its true.

Not a good way to phrase a question on a cardiology NG.
CoQ10 and

cholesterol

Quoted message said:

share the same pathway in the liver for endogenous
production, thus many believe, including myself that those
on statins should be advised to take

it.

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Also some good evidence of benefit for those with CHF as
was mentioned.

Chuck

The idiot part is my friend's comment, not mine. I thought
it was appropriate to include it because there are people
with strong opinion about Doctors not clueing their patients
into the best altentaives, for whatever reason. Honestly, I
had no idea of the existence of this or its impact.

Is this something I can self medicate and buy at a store
that sells vitamins, for example? What dose, and is there
evidence of a type, brand, that is recommended?

Thanks,

Pat

Pat said:

"ChuckMSRD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040324053933.03810.00000001@mb-
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

According to a friend, any Cardiologist who does not is
an idiot. I though I'd ask here if its true.

Not a good way to phrase a question on a cardiology NG.
CoQ10 and

cholesterol

Quoted message said:

share the same pathway in the liver for endogenous
production, thus many believe, including myself that
those on statins should be advised to take

it.

Quoted message said:

Also some good evidence of benefit for those with CHF as
was mentioned.

Chuck

The idiot part is my friend's comment, not mine. I
thought it was appropriate to include it because there
are people with strong opinion about Doctors not clueing
their patients into the best altentaives, for whatever
reason. Honestly, I had no idea of the existence of this
or its impact.

Is this something I can self medicate and buy at a store
that sells vitamins, for example? What dose, and is there
evidence of a type, brand, that is recommended?

Thanks,

Pat

While hard evidence is still out on the benefit of CoQ10 I
have not read of serious side-effects from taking it.

The cheaperst source I've found for CoQ10 is Sams Club.
150mg caps around $27 a bottle (I think it's 100 pills - I'm
out of town at the moment...).

L.

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"ChuckMSRD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040324053933.03810.00000001@mb-
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

According to a friend, any Cardiologist who does not
is an idiot. I though I'd ask here if its true.

Not a good way to phrase a question on a cardiology NG.
CoQ10 and

cholesterol

Quoted message said:

share the same pathway in the liver for endogenous
production, thus many believe, including myself that
those on statins should be advised to take

it.

Quoted message said:

Also some good evidence of benefit for those with CHF as
was mentioned.

Chuck

The idiot part is my friend's comment, not mine. I
thought it was appropriate to include it because there
are people with strong opinion about Doctors not clueing
their patients into the best altentaives, for whatever
reason. Honestly, I had no idea of the existence of this
or its impact.

Is this something I can self medicate and buy at a store
that sells vitamins, for example? What dose, and is there
evidence of a type, brand, that is recommended?

Thanks,

Pat

You might want to restrict yourself to those on the
following list.

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The passed a lab test for containing what they said they
did. (To get a list of those that failed, you have to
pay extra.)

Bill

What is CHF ???

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Is Coenzyme Q10 (CQ10) a valuable supplement that all
Cardiologists

should

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consider treating their patients with? According to a
friend, any Cardiologist who does not is an idiot. I
though I'd ask here if its

true.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I disagree with the "idiot" part - you will find a variety
of opinions. I

have

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seen nothing to suggest it is unsafe, however. People do
claim it helps

with

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CHF and those taking statins. Also as a general anti-
oxidant.

Bill

Don said:

What is CHF ???

Congestive Heart Failure.

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Andrew

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"Needs fat for absorption" ... I'm on a fat free diet. I
might get 10 grams of fat daily though. So would you say
Coenzyme Q10 would do me much good?

"ChuckMSRD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040324104621.18086.00000004@mb-
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Quoted message said:

Is this something I can self medicate and buy at a store
that sells vitamins, for example? What dose, and is there
evidence of a type, brand, that is recommended?

Readily available at any pharmacy and health food store.
Each brand will

claim

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that there product is the best. Take it with food
(needs fat for

absorption).

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The downside is that it is relatively expensive. Dosage
recs vary from

50 - 200

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mg. depending on statin dose, hx of CHF etc.

Chuck

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"Needs fat for absorption" ... I'm on a fat free diet. I
might get 10 grams of fat daily though. So would you say
Coenzyme Q10 would do me much good?

Low-fat diets may not be so healthy. Have you seen this
recent thread?

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is this something I can self medicate and buy at a store
that sells vitamins, for example? What dose, and is there
evidence of a type, brand, that is recommended?

Readily available at any pharmacy and health food store.
Each brand will claim that there product is the best.
Take it with food (needs fat for absorption). The
downside is that it is relatively expensive. Dosage recs
vary from 50 - 200
mg. depending on statin dose, hx of CHF etc.

Chuck

Q-gel formulations created by www.tischon.com are the only
water-soluble COQ10 with clinically proven Maximum Relative
Bioavailability. Absorption is up to 300% greater than
regular oil-caps or dry-caps. There are many studies done
with this Q-gel formulation. Other products take several
months to reach therapeutic blood levels, but Q-gels only
take a couple of weeks.

I have no association with the company, but I did switch to
their product a few months ago. The least expensive Q-gels
can be found at www.swansonvitamins.com

You only have to take one third the regular recommended
dose. There are so many companies that claim to have the
best Co-Q10 but Tischon really is the leader. Twinlab is
currently being sued by Tischon because they have made false
claims about their competing product "Twinsorb".
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