commute raingear recommendations?

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I too live in Seattle area. I agree with Peter in most points.

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My problem is hands and feet. I wear ski gloves to keep fingers warm, but
gets wet.

I live in the Seattle area as well.

If your hands and feet are warm, do you care about wet? There are some days
where I can wring out my gloves and a stream of water pours out while
waiting at a stoplight, but if my hands aren't cold or uncomfortable, who
cares?

As for feet, some people believe in the wet foot method of commuting around
here. Go here: http://users.rcn.com/icebike/Clothing/footwear.htm and then
scroll down to Alternative Solution: section for more.

Me, I do fine with neoprene booties over mountain biking shoes. Sometimes
the water eventually trickles in, but it's rare that my feet are too cold.

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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 04:42:13 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
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"Yum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I too live in Seattle area. I agree with Peter in most points.

Quoted message said:

My problem is hands and feet. I wear ski gloves to keep fingers warm, but
gets wet.

I live in the Seattle area as well.

If your hands and feet are warm, do you care about wet? There are some days
where I can wring out my gloves and a stream of water pours out while
waiting at a stoplight, but if my hands aren't cold or uncomfortable, who
cares?

Exactly. I live at Alaskan latitudes, so for me rain always had meant
'wet' had meant 'cold'.

Then I was camping one summer on the south coast of France, and we got
flooded at towards the end of a thunderstorm. I ended up bailing out
the tent and surrounds while wearing a pyjama top and my swimming
trunks, in pouring rain.

It was a genuine revelation to me (at age 17) that it was possible to
get a soaking without getting frozen.

The south of France is about level with Seattle, iirc. (After a check
on a map, it's about level with Eugene, Oregon)

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As for feet, some people believe in the wet foot method of commuting around
here. Go here: http://users.rcn.com/icebike/Clothing/footwear.htm and then
scroll down to Alternative Solution: section for more.

Me, I do fine with neoprene booties over mountain biking shoes. Sometimes
the water eventually trickles in, but it's rare that my feet are too cold.

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I too live in Seattle area. I agree with Peter in most points.
I wear yellow GoreTex bike jacket from Gore BikeWear. It workd well for me.
My problem is hands and feet. I wear ski gloves to keep fingers warm, but
gets wet.
Feet get very wet as well. Water seems to come from bottom at clip holes.
I covered them with duct tape, but still not perfect. Any suggestions ?

You could try using a little silicone to seal the area around the cleats.
Then cover that with duct tape. I'm surprised duct tape did not work
for you. I've used duct tape to temporarily patch hoses in my car. It got
me home and lasted until I got the proper hose. Maybe you need a better
quality duct tape?
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Alex

Gawnsoft said:

The south of France is about level with Seattle, iirc. (After a check
on a map, it's about level with Eugene, Oregon)

I wouldn't assume that because places share the same latitude that the
weather will be similar. For example, Oregon's dominant weather
patterns originate between the Gulf of Alaska and Hawaii, with the
Alaska air dominating. Also, the Pacific Ocean is cold, probably 55
degrees F or so, off of Oregon.

I don't know the specifics of the weather and water in the south of
France, but scenes of people lying on the beach in swim suits make me
think that it's very different than Oregon....

Dan Daniel said:

I don't know the specifics of the weather and water in the south of
France, but scenes of people lying on the beach in swim suits

.... or out of them, for that matter...

make me

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think that it's very different than Oregon....

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Feet get very wet as well. Water seems to come from bottom at clip

holes.

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I covered them with duct tape, but still not perfect. Any suggestions ?

You could try using a little silicone to seal the area around the cleats.
Then cover that with duct tape. I'm surprised duct tape did not work

Good idea. I'll try silicone this winter. Thanks. BTW, do you play
baseball ?

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I too live in Seattle area. I agree with Peter in most points.

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My problem is hands and feet. I wear ski gloves to keep fingers warm,

but

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gets wet.

I live in the Seattle area as well.

If your hands and feet are warm, do you care about wet? There are some

days

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where I can wring out my gloves and a stream of water pours out while
waiting at a stoplight, but if my hands aren't cold or uncomfortable, who
cares?

Well, I don't care much while riding bike. What bothers me is when I go
back home
after work. I hate to put my hands and feets to wet globes and boots.

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As for feet, some people believe in the wet foot method of commuting

around

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here. Go here: http://users.rcn.com/icebike/Clothing/footwear.htm and then
scroll down to Alternative Solution: section for more.

Wow! Interesting idea, but I'm not sure if I like it.

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Me, I do fine with neoprene booties over mountain biking shoes. Sometimes
the water eventually trickles in, but it's rare that my feet are too cold.

I'll try neoprene booties this winter. Thanks.

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Well, I don't care much while riding bike. What bothers me is when I go
back home after work. I hate to put my hands and feets to wet globes and

boots.

What you need then is a fan. Even when I work a half-day, I can get my
gloves and socks dry with a little fan I keep in my office. You do need a
tolerant office mate -- good thing the woman I share my office with is also
a cyclist.

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Claire Petersky said:

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"Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Well, I don't care much while riding bike. What bothers me is when I go
back home after work. I hate to put my hands and feets to wet globes and

boots.

What you need then is a fan. Even when I work a half-day, I can get my
gloves and socks dry with a little fan I keep in my office. You do need a
tolerant office mate -- good thing the woman I share my office with is also
a cyclist.

Dear Yum & Claire,

"The rain is growing heavier. Shall we turn? In any event,
we must dress within the next half hour, and it is very
disagreeable, even dangerous, to pull on silk stockings over
wet feet. They /must/ have time to dry naturally; mere
rubbing with a towel is never quite the same."

--Sir Joseph Blaine to Stephen Maturin, p.235
"The Reverse of the Medal" (O'Brian, for God's sake!)

Carl Fogel

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Claire Petersky said:

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"Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Well, I don't care much while riding bike. What bothers me is when I
go
back home after work. I hate to put my hands and feets to wet globes
and

boots.

What you need then is a fan. Even when I work a half-day, I can get my
gloves and socks dry with a little fan I keep in my office. You do need a
tolerant office mate -- good thing the woman I share my office with is
also
a cyclist.

Dear Yum & Claire,

"The rain is growing heavier. Shall we turn? In any event,
we must dress within the next half hour, and it is very
disagreeable, even dangerous, to pull on silk stockings over
wet feet. They /must/ have time to dry naturally; mere
rubbing with a towel is never quite the same."

--Sir Joseph Blaine to Stephen Maturin, p.235
"The Reverse of the Medal" (O'Brian, for God's sake!)

Carl Fogel

I usually wring the gloves and bandana out well in some paper towls and put
them on top of my computer monitor at work. Shoes I haven't worked out yet
so I keep a couple of pair of clean socks in my desk.

http://www.wyeastfabrics.com/

that's them!
for a pattern? take a good fitting used jacket apart(buy a thread rip
out tool and apparel from a thrift)
trace outline onto paper or cardboard
mount nylon on cardboard, taped
place cardboard template on nylon/cardboard and trace,
..
then handsew together or convince....
this yields $250 jackets for $50

i have 3 years wear on 11oz(?) oxford nylon bought from wyeast and the
material wears beautifully, no problems, quality material.

see DIY bicycle clothing in bike.tech archives and

http://www.owfinc.com
www.specialtyoutdoors.com

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for a pattern? take a good fitting used jacket apart(buy a thread rip
out tool and apparel from a thrift)
trace outline onto paper or cardboard
mount nylon on cardboard, taped
place cardboard template on nylon/cardboard and trace,
.
then handsew together or convince....
this yields $250 jackets for $50

That's what I'd do if I could sew worth a, err ... darn.
Maybe with education & practice. I bet I could even go
into business with local climate-specific & seasonal apparel.
I've already got some ideas I'd like to try, like split-tail
windshell bum flaps that don't hook on the back of the saddle.
And I'm certain there's a better, more elegant approach than jacket
sleeves with zippers in the armpits. And I think long-sleeved
jerseys with buttoned 'surgeon's cuffs' might be appreciated by
those who wear wristwatches and heart rate monitors. And truly
double-breasted rain jackets where you could stuff a newspaper or
other insulator in the overlap on cold days/nights, and it'll hold
it in place for the duration, and the newspaper would be dry and
ready-to-read when you get home. And in-between sizes for women,
besides the usual petite, medium and plus sizes. Lots of reflective
stuff and colour, but no security-guard yellow (ugh).

cheers,
Tom

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If you have a good old fashioned monitor (not one of those new flat
panel types) for your pc you can accomplish a lot by putting damp (not
dripping!) items on top of the monitor. My 21 inch monitor pumps out a
lot of drying power.

Claire Petersky said:

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"Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Well, I don't care much while riding bike. What bothers me is when I go
back home after work. I hate to put my hands and feets to wet globes and

boots.

What you need then is a fan. Even when I work a half-day, I can get my
gloves and socks dry with a little fan I keep in my office. You do need a
tolerant office mate -- good thing the woman I share my office with is also
a cyclist.

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I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter

commuting

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on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt)

headlamp

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and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations

for

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raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride

so

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slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me

reasonably

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dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from

the

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inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling? Does it also come
with reflective fabric, strips, etc. for nighttime riding? Have you

actually

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used it and can you provide me with your impressions of its effectiveness,
durability, etc.?

Thank you,

Steven Estergreen
Mulino, OR

A trip to www.rivercitybicycles.com will hook you up. They are located on
MLK blvd south of Burnside by about 3 blocks. on the left. Next to a Shell
Station. They have all the goodies for commuters.

TJ
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