Confusing blood test report

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Here are the figures:

Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL

HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL

Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL

LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL

T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL

What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?

Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35

So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?

Mel

For someone with CAD, the ratio should less than 3.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com

Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/

Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Here are the figures:

Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL

HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL

Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL

LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL

T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL

What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?

Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35

So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?

Mel

[email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Here are the figures:

Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL

HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL

Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL

LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL

T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL

What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?

Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35

So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?

Mel

For someone with CAD, the ratio should less than 3.

Less than 3? Ha-ha! Are you aware there is evidence that people with
total cholesterol under 180 having a 7% increase in hemorrhagic
strokes? And how about people with total cholestero inder 170 who an
icreased risk of dying? Total mortality is increased with very low
cholesterol levels (under 170).

The fact seems to be that there is no substantial eveidence on what
constitutes optimal levels of cholesterol. The usual publicity about
the lower, the better is not based on good science.

In my case, I have an LDL level of 81 - no lowering required. Total
cholesterol is already quite low at 133. HDL is 38 and could use a
boost; however, your suggestion of a ratio less than 3 seems to me a
ridiculous statement in light of my figures, and I don't care what
your medical book says. There are those who would highly disagree with
your medical book - and I refer to people of Science and physicians.

In fact, my cardiologist, whom I saw this morning, said my numbers are
"excellent" and not to worry about the HDL being 2 points under 40.

By the way, my blood pressure was 118/78 and I don't take any
medication except for 10 mg of Zocor.

Still further, my cardiologist wanted to start me with 20 mg of Zocor
but I insisted on 10 mg - that was a few years ago. And, so who was
right? Well, my cardiologist is very pleased with my numbers and isn't
even talking about 20 mg of Zocor.

Patient-1 Doctor-0

:-)

Mel

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/

Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%

Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
have changed my diet a few months ago.

My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.

Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
because I had a bypass in 1998.

My Homocyseine level was 5.9

I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
of Zocor.

My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.

Mel

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Here are the figures:

Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL

HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL

Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL

LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL

T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL

What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?

Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35

So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?

Mel

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in part:

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Less than 3? Ha-ha! Are you aware there is evidence that people with
total cholesterol under 180 having a 7% increase in hemorrhagic
strokes? And how about people with total cholestero inder 170 who an
icreased risk of dying? Total mortality is increased with very low
cholesterol levels (under 170).

The fact seems to be that there is no substantial eveidence on what
constitutes optimal levels of cholesterol. The usual publicity about
the lower, the better is not based on good science.

Good science? Do you have references for the results you describe?
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Owen Lowe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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In article <[email hidden]>,

(M. Schwartz) said:

Patient-1 Doctor-0

Since my heart incident in Feb of this year, I'm feeling more and more
the adversarial relationship between me and my docs. I just don't agree
with throwing medication at every thing - or that everything needs to be
medicated.

I'm looking for a doc who'll inform me of the medical situation, give me
the options and allow me to make an informed decision. THEN, work with
me on monitoring my decision and offering support or offer guidance to
help further bring things in line.

With such anticipated stress of a confrontation before each doctor
visit, it's no wonder my BP is elevated at the exam.

_____
American Association of Woodturners
Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon
Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon
_____

I think you are absolutely correct. Many doctors do not listen to
their patients and are only interested in solving the problem with a
prescription for patients are waiting. I know a few people who went to
cardiologists and were started with very high doses of a statin drug
only to have the amount reduced because of side effects. My own
cardiologist wanted to start me with 20 mg of Zocor but I kept arguing
the case of let's start with 10 mg and see what happens. After all, I
didn't have very high lipd levels and the option is there to increase
if needed. Well, I won the argument after much debate and, yes, my
blood pressure must have risen during that stressful appointment.

I agree with you that doctors can make our visits quite stressful.
Yes, there are other doctors, but many are the same. There is also the
posibility that one is worse than what you had. You could be going
around looking for what isn't there and getting even more stressed
out.

I don't deny that one should seek out a physician that one feels
comfortable with, the problem is finding that one-in-a-million. :-)

Anyway, I agree with you that doctors are too fast with the mighty pen
and need to listen more to their patients and be more conservative
with their precription approach.

Once you make it clear to your doctor that you will not except high
prescription doses unless absolutely necessary, I think they will be
more prone to go easy with you - at least that is what happened in my
case.

I know it's a pain but try searching out some other doctor who is more
to your liking. Another thing worth mentioning here is always arm
yourself with medical literature supporting your beliefs. It is
amazing how medical experts can disagree on the same issue. Some take
studies of like less than 150 people and make a case of the outcome,
others will demand larger studies before sanctioning the result.

I've been seeing my cardiologist for over two years now and we get
along very well. He points to a study of 117 people and I say that is
not enough. He says he had contact with someone associated with the
study, and I say there are those who would disagree with such a small
study. Quite frankly, my visits to the cardiologist have become much
more enjoyable since the big argument of 10 or 20 mg of Zocor.

Mel

The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
or check out my posts on alt.support.diet

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/

Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%

Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
have changed my diet a few months ago.

My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.

Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
because I had a bypass in 1998.

My Homocyseine level was 5.9

I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
of Zocor.

My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.

Mel

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Here are the figures:

Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL

HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL

Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL

LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL

T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL

What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?

Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35

So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?

Mel

[email hidden] (mfg) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Hi Brad and all

I have a total cholesterol level over 500. While off statins since
Baycol recall (two years ago today) my hdl which was just above good
rose from one blood test battery to the next. The only thing
different? I had begun drinking one cup of soy milk per day.

Still not taking a statin.

Stubborn aren't you? :-)

I can't understand the link between stopping a statin and rising HDL.
Statin drugs have been reported to raise HDL - not lower it.

Soy milk? I don't think it's the soy milk raising your HDL. I use four
ounces every day in my cereal.

Total cholesterol of 500? I think you're playing with fire. How is
your gall bladder? What is your triglyceride level?

Mel

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Quoted message said:

The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
or check out my posts on alt.support.diet

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
>
> Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%

Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
have changed my diet a few months ago.

My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.

Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
because I had a bypass in 1998.

My Homocyseine level was 5.9

I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
of Zocor.

My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.

Mel

>
> [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > Here are the figures:
> >
> > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> >
> > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> >
> > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> >
> > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> >
> > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> >
> > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> >
> > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> >
> > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> >
> > Mel

Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
monitored with a CRP test.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.

My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.

Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.

Mel

Quoted message said:

The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
or check out my posts on alt.support.diet

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
>
> Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%

Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
have changed my diet a few months ago.

My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.

Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
because I had a bypass in 1998.

My Homocyseine level was 5.9

I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
of Zocor.

My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.

Mel

>
> [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > Here are the figures:
> >
> > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> >
> > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> >
> > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> >
> > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> >
> > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> >
> > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> >
> > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> >
> > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> >
> > Mel

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
Andrew Weil.

Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
buy it.

You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
always has a study to bolster the argument.

I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
grains are complex carbohydrates.

Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.

Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
worrying too much is not a good thing.

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
monitored with a CRP test.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.

My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.

Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.

Mel

Quoted message said:

The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
or check out my posts on alt.support.diet

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> >
> > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
>
> Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> have changed my diet a few months ago.
>
> My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
>
> Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> because I had a bypass in 1998.
>
> My Homocyseine level was 5.9
>
> I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> of Zocor.
>
> My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
>
> Mel
>
> >
> > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > Here are the figures:
> > >
> > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > >
> > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > >
> > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > >
> > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > >
> > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > >
> > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > >
> > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > >
> > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > >
> > > Mel

Mel,

Whole grains are complex carbs, but not all complex carbs are whole
grains. It sounds like you're on an excellent diet, except for lack of
alcohol. The alcohol reduces risk as much as Zocor - read link from
Willett. Green tea is very good - I drink it all day long. Do you eat
nuts? It lowers heart disease risk. Finally, listen to Dr. Mirkin's
archived radio shows. Very motivating, and he does his research.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
Andrew Weil.

Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
buy it.

You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
always has a study to bolster the argument.

I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
grains are complex carbohydrates.

Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.

Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
worrying too much is not a good thing.

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
monitored with a CRP test.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.

My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.

Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.

Mel

> The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
> the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
> drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
> of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
> go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
> the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
> carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
> potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
> For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
> or check out my posts on alt.support.diet
>
> [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> > >
> > > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
> >
> > Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> > fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> > have changed my diet a few months ago.
> >
> > My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
> >
> > Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> > because I had a bypass in 1998.
> >
> > My Homocyseine level was 5.9
> >
> > I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> > of Zocor.
> >
> > My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> > and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > >
> > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > Here are the figures:
> > > >
> > > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > > >
> > > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > > >
> > > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > > >
> > > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > > >
> > > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > > >
> > > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > > >
> > > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > > >
> > > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > > >
> > > > Mel

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad,

Yes, I do eat nuts. I like almonds, hazelnuts, and pine nuts.
Sometimes I will eat cashews or walnuts. I eat nuts every day. Some
people think I eat too many nuts and have become nutty. :-)

I don't doubt alcohol in moderation can be of benefit, but it is clear
that alcohol on a daily basis while taking Zocor is not a good idea
unless looking for liver trouble.

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel,

Whole grains are complex carbs, but not all complex carbs are whole
grains. It sounds like you're on an excellent diet, except for lack of
alcohol. The alcohol reduces risk as much as Zocor - read link from
Willett. Green tea is very good - I drink it all day long. Do you eat
nuts? It lowers heart disease risk. Finally, listen to Dr. Mirkin's
archived radio shows. Very motivating, and he does his research.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
Andrew Weil.

Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
buy it.

You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
always has a study to bolster the argument.

I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
grains are complex carbohydrates.

Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.

Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
worrying too much is not a good thing.

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
monitored with a CRP test.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
>
> Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.
>
> My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
> know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
> have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
> bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
> according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.
>
> Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.
>
> Mel
>
> > The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
> > the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
> > drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
> > of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
> > go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
> > the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
> > carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
> > potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
> > For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
> > or check out my posts on alt.support.diet
> >
> > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > > > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> > > >
> > > > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > > > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > > > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > > > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > > > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > > > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
> > >
> > > Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> > > fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> > > have changed my diet a few months ago.
> > >
> > > My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
> > >
> > > Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> > > because I had a bypass in 1998.
> > >
> > > My Homocyseine level was 5.9
> > >
> > > I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> > > of Zocor.
> > >
> > > My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> > > and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
> > >
> > > Mel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > Here are the figures:
> > > > >
> > > > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > >
> > > > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > >
> > > > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > >
> > > > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > > > >
> > > > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > > > >
> > > > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > > > >
> > > > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > > > >
> > > > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel

Mel - I have you beat in the nutty dept - usually 5 oz of nuts a day.
Keep up your good diet.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad,

Yes, I do eat nuts. I like almonds, hazelnuts, and pine nuts.
Sometimes I will eat cashews or walnuts. I eat nuts every day. Some
people think I eat too many nuts and have become nutty. :-)

I don't doubt alcohol in moderation can be of benefit, but it is clear
that alcohol on a daily basis while taking Zocor is not a good idea
unless looking for liver trouble.

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel,

Whole grains are complex carbs, but not all complex carbs are whole
grains. It sounds like you're on an excellent diet, except for lack of
alcohol. The alcohol reduces risk as much as Zocor - read link from
Willett. Green tea is very good - I drink it all day long. Do you eat
nuts? It lowers heart disease risk. Finally, listen to Dr. Mirkin's
archived radio shows. Very motivating, and he does his research.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
Andrew Weil.

Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
buy it.

You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
always has a study to bolster the argument.

I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
grains are complex carbohydrates.

Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.

Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
worrying too much is not a good thing.

Mel

> Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
> carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
> bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
> simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
> honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
> the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
> grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
> potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
> with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
> alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
> second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
> want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
> has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
> discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
> not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
> further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
> CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
> inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
> monitored with a CRP test.
>
>
> [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> >
> > Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.
> >
> > My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
> > know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
> > have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
> > bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
> > according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.
> >
> > Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > > The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
> > > the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
> > > drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
> > > of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
> > > go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
> > > the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
> > > carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
> > > potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
> > > For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
> > > or check out my posts on alt.support.diet
> > >
> > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > > > > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> > > > >
> > > > > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > > > > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > > > > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > > > > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > > > > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > > > > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
> > > >
> > > > Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> > > > fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> > > > have changed my diet a few months ago.
> > > >
> > > > My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
> > > >
> > > > Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> > > > because I had a bypass in 1998.
> > > >
> > > > My Homocyseine level was 5.9
> > > >
> > > > I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> > > > of Zocor.
> > > >
> > > > My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> > > > and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
> > > >
> > > > Mel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > Here are the figures:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > > > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > > > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mel

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, five ounces? What are you eating besides nuts?

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel - I have you beat in the nutty dept - usually 5 oz of nuts a day.
Keep up your good diet.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad,

Yes, I do eat nuts. I like almonds, hazelnuts, and pine nuts.
Sometimes I will eat cashews or walnuts. I eat nuts every day. Some
people think I eat too many nuts and have become nutty. :-)

I don't doubt alcohol in moderation can be of benefit, but it is clear
that alcohol on a daily basis while taking Zocor is not a good idea
unless looking for liver trouble.

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel,

Whole grains are complex carbs, but not all complex carbs are whole
grains. It sounds like you're on an excellent diet, except for lack of
alcohol. The alcohol reduces risk as much as Zocor - read link from
Willett. Green tea is very good - I drink it all day long. Do you eat
nuts? It lowers heart disease risk. Finally, listen to Dr. Mirkin's
archived radio shows. Very motivating, and he does his research.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
>
> You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
> think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
> Andrew Weil.
>
> Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
> says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
> buy it.
>
> You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
> always has a study to bolster the argument.
>
> I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
> grains are complex carbohydrates.
>
> Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.
>
> Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
> Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
> and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
> worrying too much is not a good thing.
>
> Mel
>
> > Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
> > carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
> > bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
> > simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
> > honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
> > the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
> > grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
> > potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
> > with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
> > alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
> > second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
> > want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
> > has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
> > http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
> > discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
> > not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
> > further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
> > CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
> > inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
> > monitored with a CRP test.
> >
> >
> > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > >
> > > Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.
> > >
> > > My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
> > > know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
> > > have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
> > > bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
> > > according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.
> > >
> > > Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.
> > >
> > > Mel
> > >
> > > > The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
> > > > the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
> > > > drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
> > > > of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
> > > > go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
> > > > the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
> > > > carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
> > > > potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
> > > > For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
> > > > or check out my posts on alt.support.diet
> > > >
> > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > > > > > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > > > > > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > > > > > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > > > > > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > > > > > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > > > > > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> > > > > fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> > > > > have changed my diet a few months ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> > > > > because I had a bypass in 1998.
> > > > >
> > > > > My Homocyseine level was 5.9
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> > > > > of Zocor.
> > > > >
> > > > > My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> > > > > and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > Here are the figures:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > > > > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > > > > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mel

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had begun drinking one cup of soy milk per day.

Quoted message said:

Soy milk? I don't think it's the soy milk raising your HDL. I use four
ounces every day in my cereal.

All soy products are very harmful, according to a famous study of
Dr.Lon R.White/Hawaii Center of Health Research (see Google) and
other scientits, causing dementia and a lot of other deseases. Why?
There is phythoestrogen in this bean blockading the estrogen receptors
in the hippocampus of the brain. After reading that I stopped eating
tofu and other soy products.

The limit of 200 for cholesterol is too low. Up to 300 everything is
o.k.

Werner

Werner said:

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had begun drinking one cup of soy milk per day.

Quoted message said:

Soy milk? I don't think it's the soy milk raising your HDL. I use four
ounces every day in my cereal.

All soy products are very harmful, according to a famous study of
Dr.Lon R.White/Hawaii Center of Health Research (see Google) and
other scientits, causing dementia and a lot of other deseases. Why?

clearly the intellectual feebleness of Japanese and Chinese
are evidence of this.

Quoted message said:

There is phythoestrogen in this bean blockading the estrogen receptors
in the hippocampus of the brain. After reading that I stopped eating
tofu and other soy products.

Quoted message said:

The limit of 200 for cholesterol is too low. Up to 300 everything is
o.k.

Werner

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[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, I found that so interesting I printed it out. But what is your
height?

I am 5'7 3/4" without shoes, 131 pounds before breakfast, and my waist
is 29.

What kind of rye crispbread are you eating? Ryvita?

I think you have a very interesting diet. Hey, your HDL is absolutely
great!

What motivated you to go on that diet? And what was the motivating
factor to get your HDL up?

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel,

My HDL also used to be low at 35. Last blood test: 68. I'm sure the
exercise helps, but I didn't eat nuts or as much fatty fish before,
nor did I take fish oil supplements. Of course, nuts are high in
calories so if you eat more you should eat less of something else.

day4 equality diet 8/10 Sun
Meal 1 300c 6:15 am one pound frozen strawberries + one cup lite
yogurt + .2 oz nuts
Meal 2 600c 8.30 am 1.25 oz peanuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads
Meal 3 900c10.30 am 1. oz walnuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads + V8
juice
Meal 4 1200c 12.00 am Turkey Burger + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads
Meal 5 1500c 2.30 pm 1 oz walnuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads + V8
juice
Meal 6 1800c 4.30 pm 1 oz walnuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads + V8
juice
Meal 7 2100c 6.30 pm 1 lb blueberries + one cup lite yogurt
Mea l8 2400c 8.30 pm 3 oz herring + 1 lite yogurt + V8 juice

calories 2,400
fat 34%
carbs 43%
protein 23%
alcohol 0%

fruit servings 8
veg servings 4
dairy servings 3
whole grain servings 5
nut servings 5
oily fish servings 1
green tea servings 8
alcohol servings 0
fiber grams 64

exercise
900 calories aerobics 5 miles treadmill, 4 miles eliptical trainer
easy day avg pulse 110

176/153/150 waist 36.5/34.5/33.0

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, five ounces? What are you eating besides nuts?

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel - I have you beat in the nutty dept - usually 5 oz of nuts a day.
Keep up your good diet.

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
>
> Brad,
>
> Yes, I do eat nuts. I like almonds, hazelnuts, and pine nuts.
> Sometimes I will eat cashews or walnuts. I eat nuts every day. Some
> people think I eat too many nuts and have become nutty. :-)
>
> I don't doubt alcohol in moderation can be of benefit, but it is clear
> that alcohol on a daily basis while taking Zocor is not a good idea
> unless looking for liver trouble.
>
> Mel
>
> > Mel,
> >
> > Whole grains are complex carbs, but not all complex carbs are whole
> > grains. It sounds like you're on an excellent diet, except for lack of
> > alcohol. The alcohol reduces risk as much as Zocor - read link from
> > Willett. Green tea is very good - I drink it all day long. Do you eat
> > nuts? It lowers heart disease risk. Finally, listen to Dr. Mirkin's
> > archived radio shows. Very motivating, and he does his research.
> >
> > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > >
> > > You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
> > > think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
> > > Andrew Weil.
> > >
> > > Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
> > > says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
> > > buy it.
> > >
> > > You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
> > > always has a study to bolster the argument.
> > >
> > > I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
> > > grains are complex carbohydrates.
> > >
> > > Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.
> > >
> > > Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
> > > Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
> > > and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
> > > worrying too much is not a good thing.
> > >
> > > Mel
> > >
> > > > Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
> > > > carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
> > > > bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
> > > > simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
> > > > honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
> > > > the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
> > > > grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
> > > > potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
> > > > with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
> > > > alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
> > > > second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
> > > > want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
> > > > has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
> > > > http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
> > > > discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
> > > > not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
> > > > further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
> > > > CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
> > > > inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
> > > > monitored with a CRP test.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
> > > > > know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
> > > > > have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
> > > > > bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
> > > > > according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mel
> > > > >
> > > > > > The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
> > > > > > the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
> > > > > > drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
> > > > > > of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
> > > > > > go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
> > > > > > the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
> > > > > > carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
> > > > > > potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
> > > > > > For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
> > > > > > or check out my posts on alt.support.diet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > > > > > > > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > > > > > > > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > > > > > > > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > > > > > > > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > > > > > > > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > > > > > > > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> > > > > > > fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> > > > > > > have changed my diet a few months ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> > > > > > > because I had a bypass in 1998.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My Homocyseine level was 5.9
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> > > > > > > of Zocor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> > > > > > > and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > > > Here are the figures:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > > > > > > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > > > > > > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mel

[email hidden] (Werner) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had begun drinking one cup of soy milk per day.

Quoted message said:

Soy milk? I don't think it's the soy milk raising your HDL. I use four
ounces every day in my cereal.

All soy products are very harmful, according to a famous study of
Dr.Lon R.White/Hawaii Center of Health Research (see Google) and
other scientits, causing dementia and a lot of other deseases. Why?
There is phythoestrogen in this bean blockading the estrogen receptors
in the hippocampus of the brain. After reading that I stopped eating
tofu and other soy products.

Quoted message said:

The limit of 200 for cholesterol is too low. Up to 300 everything is
o.k.

Werner

Do you have any evidence that an eight ounce serving of soy per day is
harmful?

Do you have any evidence supporting a cholesterol level of at least
300 is desireable? And what about people who have had a bypass and
"new" skinny arteries? There may well be a different criteria as to
what is desired for bypass patients.

Mel

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, I found that so interesting I printed it out. But what is your
height?

I am 5'7 3/4" without shoes, 131 pounds before breakfast, and my waist
is 29.

Actually, my waist is closer to 30.

Quoted message said:

What kind of rye crispbread are you eating? Ryvita?

I think you have a very interesting diet. Hey, your HDL is absolutely
great!

What motivated you to go on that diet? And what was the motivating
factor to get your HDL up?

Mel

Quoted message said:

Mel,

My HDL also used to be low at 35. Last blood test: 68. I'm sure the
exercise helps, but I didn't eat nuts or as much fatty fish before,
nor did I take fish oil supplements. Of course, nuts are high in
calories so if you eat more you should eat less of something else.

day4 equality diet 8/10 Sun
Meal 1 300c 6:15 am one pound frozen strawberries + one cup lite
yogurt + .2 oz nuts
Meal 2 600c 8.30 am 1.25 oz peanuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads
Meal 3 900c10.30 am 1. oz walnuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads + V8
juice
Meal 4 1200c 12.00 am Turkey Burger + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads
Meal 5 1500c 2.30 pm 1 oz walnuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads + V8
juice
Meal 6 1800c 4.30 pm 1 oz walnuts + 3 Fiber Rye crispbreads + V8
juice
Meal 7 2100c 6.30 pm 1 lb blueberries + one cup lite yogurt
Mea l8 2400c 8.30 pm 3 oz herring + 1 lite yogurt + V8 juice

calories 2,400
fat 34%
carbs 43%
protein 23%
alcohol 0%

fruit servings 8
veg servings 4
dairy servings 3
whole grain servings 5
nut servings 5
oily fish servings 1
green tea servings 8
alcohol servings 0
fiber grams 64

exercise
900 calories aerobics 5 miles treadmill, 4 miles eliptical trainer
easy day avg pulse 110

176/153/150 waist 36.5/34.5/33.0

[email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Brad, five ounces? What are you eating besides nuts?

Mel

> Mel - I have you beat in the nutty dept - usually 5 oz of nuts a day.
> Keep up your good diet.
>
> [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > Yes, I do eat nuts. I like almonds, hazelnuts, and pine nuts.
> > Sometimes I will eat cashews or walnuts. I eat nuts every day. Some
> > people think I eat too many nuts and have become nutty. :-)
> >
> > I don't doubt alcohol in moderation can be of benefit, but it is clear
> > that alcohol on a daily basis while taking Zocor is not a good idea
> > unless looking for liver trouble.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > > Mel,
> > >
> > > Whole grains are complex carbs, but not all complex carbs are whole
> > > grains. It sounds like you're on an excellent diet, except for lack of
> > > alcohol. The alcohol reduces risk as much as Zocor - read link from
> > > Willett. Green tea is very good - I drink it all day long. Do you eat
> > > nuts? It lowers heart disease risk. Finally, listen to Dr. Mirkin's
> > > archived radio shows. Very motivating, and he does his research.
> > >
> > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > >
> > > > You shouldn't put all your trust in Dr. Mercola. Personally, I don't
> > > > think he's so great. I do think a lot of Dr. Walter Willet and Dr.
> > > > Andrew Weil.
> > > >
> > > > Brad, whole grains and fruits are complex carbohydrates. If someone
> > > > says they're bad for you, well, that's their perogative but I don't
> > > > buy it.
> > > >
> > > > You can find people to disagree on just about anything, and, someone
> > > > always has a study to bolster the argument.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what you're talking about when you say not all whole
> > > > grains are complex carbohydrates.
> > > >
> > > > Zocor's literature warns about the use of alcohol.
> > > >
> > > > Brad, I am not concerned about a CRP test. I basically eat a
> > > > Mediterranean diet. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I drink water
> > > > and Green tea. I am exercising more. I feel I am doing enough and
> > > > worrying too much is not a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > Mel
> > > >
> > > > > Mel, you didn't read the link, did you? "Traditionally,
> > > > > carbohydrates that were classified as complex carbohydrates--such as
> > > > > bread, pasta, and other starches--were considered to be "good," and
> > > > > simple carbohydrates or sugars--such as table sugar, candy, and
> > > > > honey--were thought of as "bad." However, research now shows us that
> > > > > the picture is more complicated.." Not all complex carbs are whole
> > > > > grains. Bad carbs include all refined grain products and white
> > > > > potatoes.Re ZOCOR and alcohol. "ZOCOR should be used with caution
> > > > > with patients consuming substantional amounts of alcohol." Mel,
> > > > > alcohol is such a powerful risk reducer and HDL booster that I'd get a
> > > > > second opinion about taking a drink a day if I were you. You might
> > > > > want to email Merck (www.zocor.com) Try www.drmirkin.com Dr. Mirkin
> > > > > has a radio show and will answer questions for free. See
> > > > > http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol.html for a good
> > > > > discussion of alcohol. RE: CRP - the consensus statement is that it's
> > > > > not useful at this time for people with CHD. Your doc is right until
> > > > > further studies prove the usefulness of lowing inflammation and thus
> > > > > CRP. It's a hot area of research. In your shoes I'd want to lower
> > > > > inflammation via diet as much as possible, and I'd want to be
> > > > > monitored with a CRP test.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad, complex carbs are the good carbs. Simple carbs are the bad ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My cardiologist said that a CRP test will only tell us what we already
> > > > > > know - I have heart disease. I had a bypass in 1998 and that means I
> > > > > > have heart disease. No heart attack and no chest pain but I had a
> > > > > > bypass for clogged arteries. No can do with Zocor and alcohol
> > > > > > according to my cardiologist, except for i or 2 drinks a week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whole grains, fruits, and veggies ARE complex carbohydates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The CRP test should still be useful. Inflammation is suspected to be
> > > > > > > the leading cause of heart disease - CRP measures inflammation. One
> > > > > > > drink a day may be okay for you - non-drinkers may have twice the risk
> > > > > > > of heart attack. Niaspan can cause stomach upset - true. If you can't
> > > > > > > go on Niaspan the Lp(a) test is useless - Niaspan (or OTC naicin) is
> > > > > > > the only treatment. Complex carbs aren't the "good" carbs, the good
> > > > > > > carbs are whole grain carbs, fruits and veggies(except white
> > > > > > > potatoes). See http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates.html
> > > > > > > For a diet plan to boost your HDL and prevent CHD ask me for my diet
> > > > > > > or check out my posts on alt.support.diet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > > > Mel, HDL < 40 is an independent risk factor. See
> > > > > > > > > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/cholesterol/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your ratio is good, as is your LDL. To raise HDL, consider 1)
> > > > > > > > > exercise more 2)hve one or two drinks a day 3) add good fats ( fish
> > > > > > > > > oil, olive oil) to your diet replacing carbs (don't increase
> > > > > > > > > calories). Niaspan is effective as well. You should get a CRP blood
> > > > > > > > > test, and perhaps an LP(a) test. I'm going on Niaspan to lower my
> > > > > > > > > LP(a) which is 55 - very high. Niaspan increases HDL by 30%
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad, I do eat fresh wild salmon and canned sardines, olive oil, and
> > > > > > > > fish oil capsules. Maybe the next blood test will show better as I
> > > > > > > > have changed my diet a few months ago.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My diet is high carbs but only complex carbs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Niaspan I don't like, could cause an ulcer. CRP test for me is useless
> > > > > > > > because I had a bypass in 1998.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My Homocyseine level was 5.9
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm not supposed to have two drinks every day because of taking 10 mg
> > > > > > > > of Zocor.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My cardiologist hasn't ordered an LP(a) test. I just called his office
> > > > > > > > and waiting to hear from him about this particular test.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mel
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [email hidden] (M. Schwartz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> > > > > > > > > > Here are the figures:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cholesterol - 133 Reference Range <200 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > HDL - 38 Reference Range 30-75 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Triglycerides 65 Reference Range 55-230 mg/dL PF CL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > LDL 81 Reference Range <130 mg/dL Pf CL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > T Chol/HDL Chol 3.46 ratio CL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What I find confusing is the HDL of 38 looks okay when comparing to
> > > > > > > > > > the Reference Range of 30-75 but isn't an HDL level of at least 40
> > > > > > > > > > considered to be the lowest figure acceptable?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Another thing on my report is it states HDL Desirable: Greater than 35
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, does this mean my HDL of 38 is good?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mel