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  1. In article <[email hidden]>
    raisethe <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    The thing is, I'm not clubby and 'family fun' / charity rides are
    definitely out.

    I'm not much of a people person, but I like bikes and I tend to get on
    with people who like bikes (as distinct from people who just want to win
    races). Strangely, cycling clubs generally don't seem to feel a need to
    organise charity rides.
    I wasn't suggesting that you should participate in the club social
    events, just that they'd be more understanding of someone riding time
    trials for the hell of it rather than for sporting excellence.

    Quoted message said:

    I simply want to train to a peak for a race, ride
    myself to exhaustion, hopefully achieving my targetted time (however
    slow that may be) then go home.

    Fairy nuff.

    Quoted message said:

    I used to run half marathons in the
    top quarter of the peloton then I got fatter and fatter until I would
    finally wobble in a long way after the main field. By then all of the
    organisers had packed up and gone home! It wasn't fun.

    On the other hand, to get the motivation to go out riding on cold wet
    winter days, it helps to have a specific event / target to aim for.
    Maybe as Simon says I can try a couple of the local TT clubs and see
    how it goes, but what would be approximately the slowest ten mile time
    in a typical local TT?

    Back in the 80s I was a founder member of a club that was set up by
    people who wanted to ride without feeling intimidated by the perceived
    elitism of the local racing clubs and CTC. The membership was mostly
    juniors, vets and tourists who fancied a bit of fun because most of the
    competitive riders were already members of one of the two or three other
    local clubs.
    We used to do a Sunday run of 40-odd miles punctuated by a pub lunch,
    and attend two or three local time trials each week. Because we weren't
    a bunch of wannabe pro racers (with the possible exception of some of
    the more energetic juniors) people were happy to turn up and give it a
    go, including people with no lycra on upright bikes. A good time on our
    usual 10 course was around 23 minutes, but we wouldn't turn our noses up
    at people who took another 15 minutes to finish.
    Having a club run to get to was often a good incentive to get out of bed
    on a Sunday morning, and there's something about getting to your
    destination country pub on an evil day, grabbing a pint and warming
    yourself in front of an open fire while you wait for a slap up meal.
    Then the ride back, of course, and a nice hot bath.

  2. in message <[email hidden]>, raisethe

    (') said:


    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>,
    raisethe ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    > But if I did a time of say 45 minutes, and I am wearing casual
    > clothes because I am (ahem) several sizes too big for the largest
    > available cycling gear, would I be so hopelessly out of place that
    > it would just be too embarrassing and something I would never wish
    > to repeat?

    You would in some clubs. Unfortunately, cycling is like any other
    sport and there are definitely some clubs that are both elitist and
    cliquey. However, there are a lot that aren't. If you don't like the
    first club you try, ask around about what other clubs do time trials
    in your area.


    I'd suggest looking for a club that organizes family rides and pub runs,
    with a bit of racing thrown in, rather than a sporting club that might
    take everything a bit too seriously.

    The thing is, I'm not clubby and 'family fun' / charity rides are
    definitely out. I simply want to train to a peak for a race, ride
    myself to exhaustion, hopefully achieving my targetted time (however
    slow that may be) then go home. I used to run half marathons in the
    top quarter of the peloton then I got fatter and fatter until I would
    finally wobble in a long way after the main field. By then all of the
    organisers had packed up and gone home! It wasn't fun.

    On the other hand, to get the motivation to go out riding on cold wet
    winter days, it helps to have a specific event / target to aim for.
    Maybe as Simon says I can try a couple of the local TT clubs and see
    how it goes, but what would be approximately the slowest ten mile time
    in a typical local TT?

    We have a lassie who regularly turns in times over 40 minutes. But she does
    it, and she's doing her best, so we're happy to encourage her. We've had a

    Quoted message said:

    50 minute time for a ten. That's OK when you have fifteen or twenty


    people riding, provided the slow person goes off first. It's not so good
    when you have only a few riders, or the slow person goes off late.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    A message from our sponsor: This site is now in free fall

  3. Quoted message said:

    Strangely, cycling clubs generally don't seem to feel a need to
    organise charity rides.

    I'd love to see what kind of ride a dedicated Audaxer would feel worthy of
    being a -thon. LEL or PBP certainly, but what about a mere 600?

    I suspect they'd introduce an element of chance to the event and base
    sponsorship on the amount of badgers spotted.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>
    Mark Thompson

    pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said:
    Quoted message said:

    Strangely, cycling clubs generally don't seem to feel a need to
    organise charity rides.

    I'd love to see what kind of ride a dedicated Audaxer would feel worthy of
    being a -thon. LEL or PBP certainly, but what about a mere 600?

    Can't they just do 30 miles on really bad bikes with inappropriate
    clothing?

  5. Rob, Simon,

    That is all useful information. Thank you both. I should be able to
    train up for one by next summer, or the following Spring if necessary.

  6. Geraint Jones said:

    Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    | >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    | >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    | And why is it plugged in...?
    | Roos

    I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or missing?

    TL

  7. The Luggage said the following on 05/12/2006 10:56:

    Quoted message said:

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or missing?

    I thought that's how they were meant to be sold :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  8. The Luggage said:
    Geraint Jones said:

    Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    | >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    | >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    | And why is it plugged in...?
    | Roos

    I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or missing?

    Only the Lidl one
    ;-))

  9. "The Luggage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Geraint Jones said:

    Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    | >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    | >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    | And why is it plugged in...?
    | Roos

    I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or missing?

    Does it count if you deliberately took it off?

    cheers,
    clive

  10. In article <[email hidden]>

    Clive George said:

    "The Luggage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Geraint Jones said:

    Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    | >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    | >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    | And why is it plugged in...?
    | Roos

    I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or missing?

    Does it count if you deliberately took it off?


    I was wondering that - the covers don't generally seem to fulfill any
    useful purpose, and cells can get quite warm when they're being charged,
    so I usually remove the lid anyway.

  11. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Clive George said:

    "The Luggage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Geraint Jones wrote:

    > Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    >> >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    >> And why is it plugged in...?
    >> Roos
    >
    > I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or
    missing?

    Does it count if you deliberately took it off?


    I was wondering that - the covers don't generally seem to fulfill any
    useful purpose, and cells can get quite warm when they're being
    charged, so I usually remove the lid anyway.

    My charger came without. I'm feeling rather left out in this debate.

    A

  12. Rob Morley said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or
    missing?

    Does it count if you deliberately took it off?


    I was wondering that - the covers don't generally seem to fulfill any
    useful purpose, and cells can get quite warm when they're being
    charged, so I usually remove the lid anyway.

    It's supposed to be a safety feature to contain exploding cells.

    ~PB

  13. Dan Gregory wrote on 05/12/2006 13:35 +0100:

    Quoted message said:
    The Luggage said:
    Geraint Jones said:

    Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    | >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    | >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    | And why is it plugged in...?
    | Roos

    I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.

    Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or missing?

    Only the Lidl one
    ;-))

    ITYM Lidl-ess one. ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "...has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least
    wildly inaccurate..."
    Douglas Adams; The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  14. Pete Biggs said the following on 05/12/2006 16:15:

    Quoted message said:

    It's supposed to be a safety feature to contain exploding cells.

    Yeah? Most of those plastic lids wouldn't contain an exploding fart!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  15. Paul Boyd said:

    Pete Biggs said the following on 05/12/2006 16:15:

    Quoted message said:

    It's supposed to be a safety feature to contain exploding cells.

    Yeah? Most of those plastic lids wouldn't contain an exploding fart!

    Remind me not to go for a ride and enjoy traditional audax food* with you

    --
    A
    *Beans on toast**
    **not that I can eat toast or beans

  16. "Ambrose Nankivell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Boyd said:

    Pete Biggs said the following on 05/12/2006 16:15:

    Quoted message said:

    It's supposed to be a safety feature to contain exploding cells.

    Yeah? Most of those plastic lids wouldn't contain an exploding fart!

    Remind me not to go for a ride and enjoy traditional audax food* with you

    --
    A
    *Beans on toast**
    **not that I can eat toast or beans

    Heinz Beanz are good for your heart
    The more you eat, the more you fart
    The more you fart, the better you feel
    So eat Heinz Beanz with every meal!

  17. Response to wafflycat:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Remind me not to go for a ride and enjoy traditional audax food* with you

    --
    A
    *Beans on toast**
    **not that I can eat toast or beans

    Heinz Beanz are good for your heart
    The more you eat, the more you fart
    The more you fart, the better you feel
    So eat Heinz Beanz with every meal!

    A million housewives every day
    Tear off their knickers and shout hooray
    Beanz Meanz Heinz.

    IIRC.

    --
    Mark, UK
    "One of my greatest pleasures in writing has come from the thought that
    perhaps my work might annoy someone of comfortably pretentious position.
    Then comes the saddening realization that such people rarely read."

  18. Ambrose Nankivell said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Clive George said:

    "The Luggage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >Geraint Jones wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> >On 01/12/2006 17:53, Simon Mason said,
    >>> >> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page513.htm
    >>> And why is it plugged in...?
    >>> Roos
    >>
    >>I see the perspex lid broke off your charger as well.
    >
    >Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or
    >missing?

    Does it count if you deliberately took it off?

    I was wondering that - the covers don't generally seem to fulfill any
    useful purpose, and cells can get quite warm when they're being
    charged, so I usually remove the lid anyway.

    My charger came without. I'm feeling rather left out in this debate.

    I didn't get one either, but then the whole thing plugs into the wall
    with flatteries back & front.

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking. (Arthur Bloch)

  19. In article <[email hidden]>

    Pete Biggs said:
    Rob Morley said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or
    > missing?

    Does it count if you deliberately took it off?


    I was wondering that - the covers don't generally seem to fulfill any
    useful purpose, and cells can get quite warm when they're being
    charged, so I usually remove the lid anyway.

    It's supposed to be a safety feature to contain exploding cells.


    That's pretty unlikely with a smart charger ... isn't it?

  20. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Pete Biggs said:
    Rob Morley said:

    >> Doesn't everyone have a charger with the perspex lid broken or
    >> missing?
    >
    > Does it count if you deliberately took it off?
    >
    I was wondering that - the covers don't generally seem to fulfill
    any useful purpose, and cells can get quite warm when they're being
    charged, so I usually remove the lid anyway.

    It's supposed to be a safety feature to contain exploding cells.

    Dust cover as well.

    Quoted message said:

    That's pretty unlikely with a smart charger ... isn't it?

    Unlikely even with a dumb charger - except when trying to charge a non
    rechargeable button cell - which I foolishly did once. The cell got fired
    to the other side of the room since the lid was not on. Not sure a flimsy
    plastic lid (that doesn't even lock) would contain a larger cell, though.
    Maybe it'd slow it down a bit?

    ~PB

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