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  1. I've been riding Continental Grand Prix tires for years on
    my road bikes. Last time I needed a tire I cheaped out and
    got a Continental Sport 1000, on sale for $12. I couldn't
    resist since the Grand Prix is about $45. I've ridden the
    Sport 1000 on the rear for 2,000 miles and honestly can't
    feel a difference from the Grand Prix (which I still have on
    the front).

    As I mentioned in another post, it failed today with a
    sidewall slash after I rode through some finely ground
    glass. I was surprised such small pieces of glass could
    have produced such a large cut. It's close to half an inch
    long (after reinflating the tube), perpendicular to the
    tire tangent (meaning radiating out along the line of a
    spoke). It starts in the middle of the sidwall and extends
    up into the tread.

    I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've
    never had a sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've
    gone through 3 or 4 of them, getting about 3,000 miles on
    each on the rear.

    Is the cheaper Conti tire more susceptible to sidewall cuts?

    Thanks, Michael

  2. Michael Press said:

    I've been riding Continental Grand Prix tires for years on
    my road bikes. Last time I needed a tire I cheaped out and
    got a Continental Sport 1000, on sale for $12. I couldn't
    resist since the Grand Prix is about $45. I've ridden the
    Sport 1000 on the rear for 2,000 miles and honestly can't
    feel a difference from the Grand Prix (which I still have
    on the front).

    As I mentioned in another post, it failed today with a
    sidewall slash after I rode through some finely ground
    glass. I was surprised such small pieces of glass could
    have produced such a large cut. It's close to half an
    inch long (after reinflating the tube), perpendicular to
    the tire tangent (meaning radiating out along the line of
    a spoke). It starts in the middle of the sidwall and
    extends up into the tread.

    I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've
    never had a sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've
    gone through 3 or 4 of them, getting about 3,000 miles on
    each on the rear.

    Is the cheaper Conti tire more susceptible to
    sidewall cuts?

    Thanks, Michael


    if I'm not mistaken the more expensive tire has an
    additional ply and more rated strength than the Sport. I
    ride on tires that have Aramid fibers in them: Vittoria
    Randonneur. I've not had any problems with them so far. The
    only gripe I have about them is the cost: $30 each.

    dave

  3. Bay Area Dave said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is the cheaper Conti tire more susceptible to
    sidewall cuts?

    Thanks, Michael

    if I'm not mistaken the more expensive tire has an
    additional ply and more rated strength than the Sport.

    You're right - I just checked the conti website and the
    Ultra tires are 3-ply while the various Grand Prix tires
    are 5-ply.

    Michael

  4. michael-<< I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible.
    I've never had a sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and
    I've gone through 3 or 4 of them, getting about 3,000 miles
    on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    The sidewall of the cheaper tire is probably thicker than
    the GP. Use a cheap tire. All will work just about the same.
    Durability, long life is the thing you should be after.
    Particularly for just use guys that ride around.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    You're right - I just checked the conti website and the
    Ultra tires are 3-ply while the various Grand Prix tires
    are 5-ply.

    Michael

    IIRC, that's only under the tread. The extra two plies are
    for puncture resistance.

    The rest of the tire should be the same.

    M

  6. "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    michael-<< I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is
    responsible. I've never had a sidewall problem on the
    Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of them,
    getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    The sidewall of the cheaper tire is probably thicker than
    the GP. Use a cheap tire. All will work just about the
    same. Durability, long life is the thing


    you

    Quoted message said:

    should be after. Particularly for just use guys that
    ride around.

    I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight
    racing tires... Seems like a complete waste of money to me.

    Mike Riding Michelin Prestige tires and lovin it!

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. SDMike said:


    "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:20040707090945.26668.00001267@mb-
    m03.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    michael-<< I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is
    responsible. I've never had a sidewall problem on the
    Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of them,
    getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    The sidewall of the cheaper tire is probably thicker than
    the GP. Use a cheap tire. All will work just about the
    same. Durability, long life is the thing


    you

    Quoted message said:

    should be after. Particularly for just use guys that ride
    around.

    I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight
    racing tires... Seems like a complete waste of money to me.

    I can only go on my personal experience. I've gone 10,000
    miles on Specialized Armadillos and 10,000 miles on Conti
    Grand Prixes with no problems ever, but got a slashed
    sidewall on my first cheapo Sport 1000.

    Maybe just coincidence, but I don't mind spending the extra
    $25 per year on superstition.

    Michael

  8. Quoted message said:

    I can only go on my personal experience. I've gone 10,000
    miles on Specialized Armadillos and 10,000 miles on Conti
    Grand Prixes with no problems ever, but got a slashed
    sidewall on my first cheapo Sport 1000.

    Maybe just coincidence, but I don't mind spending the
    extra $25 per year on superstition.

    Michael

    Your $25 are not going towards superstition. I've owned
    three pairs of Sport 1000's and half of them have developed
    tears from general use. None of them have more than 2000
    miles. But, for the price, I'm very happy with their
    performance.

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've
    never had a sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and
    I've gone through 3 or 4 of them, getting about 3,000
    miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    Quoted message said:

    I can only go on my personal experience. I've gone 10,000
    miles on Specialized Armadillos and 10,000 miles on Conti
    Grand Prixes with no problems ever, but got a slashed
    sidewall on my first cheapo Sport 1000.

    Maybe just coincidence, but I don't mind spending the
    extra $25 per year on superstition.

    Well I'm jealous. I have the opposite problem. Seems like
    whenever I spring for an expensive tire, it gets end-of-
    lifed by a glass cut long before I have the pleasure of
    wearing it out. The cheap ones, however, last forever and I
    get sick and tired of them and swap them out while they
    still have miles left, just for a change. That is exactly
    what happened the one time I tried Conti Sport 1000s. I did
    not think that they rode as nice as Ultra 2000s, though.

    I think that your experience was atypical and that you
    should continue to buy Sport 1000s -- but for $9.99 on sale.

    dkl

  10. Douglas Landau said:


    Well I'm jealous. I have the opposite problem. Seems like
    whenever I spring for an expensive tire, it gets end-of-
    lifed by a glass cut long before I have the pleasure of
    wearing it out.

    That's because the expensive tires you got were Conti's.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | If all economists were laid end to end, they would
    not reach a _`\(,_ | conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw
    (_)/ (_) |

  11. "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    mike-<< I never have understood why people JRA ride the
    lightweight racing tires... >><BR><BR>

    Cuz they look cool at the coffee shop?

    Don know either. we sell many more Conti GP3000, Vittoria
    Open CX than the really nice Ritchey 'RaceSlick at $25.

    I've got some of those Ritchey tires on my Ritchey Pro
    wheels, which match my Ritchey Pro stems... Seem to be
    good tires...

    M

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  12. "SDMike" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:f0DHc.1712$6B.638@fed1read06:

    Quoted message said:

    I've got some of those Ritchey tires on my Ritchey Pro
    wheels, which match my Ritchey Pro stems... Seem to be
    good tires...

    I bought some Ritchy slick road tires last year. They wore
    out very quickly. The Michelin and Panaracer tires I use now
    are much more durable.

  13. "SDMike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:20040708091936.13485.00001103@mb-
    m12.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    mike-<< I never have understood why people JRA ride the
    lightweight


    racing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    tires... >><BR><BR>

    Cuz they look cool at the coffee shop?

    Don know either. we sell many more Conti GP3000,
    Vittoria Open CX than


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    really nice Ritchey 'RaceSlick at $25.

    I've got some of those Ritchey tires on my Ritchey Pro
    wheels, which match


    my

    Quoted message said:

    Ritchey Pro stems... Seem to be good tires...

    What widths are available? Do you sell them at your shop,
    and if so how much are they plz?

    Quoted message said:


    M

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote
    convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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