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  1. I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would appreciate any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

  2. biig said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would appreciate any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

    Rinse it very well then simmer (don't boil!), then bake low -
    about 300F covered/tented.

    They're usually much too salty unless you simmer for at least
    part of the time. And the baking part improves texture rather
    than simmering the whole time.

    Take it out of the oven when it reaches at least 180F.

    -sw

  3. biig said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would appreciate any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

    The method that worked best for me was one David Rosengarten claimed,
    on his old Food Network show Taste, was his father's method.

    Put the corned beef in a pot and cover with water. Bring slowly to a
    simmer. When it starts to simmer, pour out the water and repeat for a
    total of three times.

    Cover the corned beef again with water and add all its juices and
    spices, then cook as directed on the package. Add onion, carrot,
    garlic if desired, but don't add cabbage or potatoes.

    When the corned beef is finished, put it into a preheated 300 degree
    oven for 30 - 40 minutes lighly covered with foil.

    Cook the cabbage and potatoes separately.

    Serve.

    This method makes for a very tender, less greasy corned beef. I think
    the oven treatment at the end tends to intensify the flavor by cooking
    off some of the water the meat may have absorbed.

  4. i buy corned beef, in a package that includes spices.
    i put the meat in a crock pot, cover with water, using the juices from the
    envelope and the spice from the packet.
    i put it on low and cook all day.
    effortless, and it comes out tender and tasty, every time.

    "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would appreciate any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

  5. "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would appreciate
    any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

    Search for a mention of sheldon's recipe...It's pretty good.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  6. hahabogus said:

    "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would appreciate
    any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

    Search for a mention of sheldon's recipe...It's pretty good.

    Dimitri's recipe is also very, very good! Have you tried that one?

    Christine

  7. Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    hahabogus said:

    "biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would


    appreciate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    any
    tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but could use some
    tips....thanks....Sharon

    Search for a mention of sheldon's recipe...It's pretty good.

    Dimitri's recipe is also very, very good! Have you tried that one?

    Christine

    Alas corned beef isn't what I do to brisket....so far I only braise it in
    beer...but there is now a smoker in my life.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  8. hahabogus said:

    Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    Alas corned beef isn't what I do to brisket....so far I only braise it in
    beer...but there is now a smoker in my life.

    Well...I have a new smoker too..but sadly, I haven't had much of a
    chance to put it together yet. However, it *has* to be put together
    this week, as I have some homecured bacon to smoke !!!

    Nancy has a copy of Dimitri's recipe..maybe we can induce her to post
    it again? 😉

    Christine

  9. Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    hahabogus said:

    Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    Alas corned beef isn't what I do to brisket....so far I only braise it
    in beer...but there is now a smoker in my life.

    Well...I have a new smoker too..but sadly, I haven't had much of a
    chance to put it together yet. However, it *has* to be put together
    this week, as I have some homecured bacon to smoke !!!

    Nancy has a copy of Dimitri's recipe..maybe we can induce her to post
    it again? 😉

    Christine

    So far I've smoked a boneless pork butt roast, 2 cut up chickens and
    several porksteaks (around 6)...Of all of them I likes the pork steaks
    the best. I use a rub,and mop with apple juice and finish with my apple
    butter bbq sauce. and wood I like hickory so far.

    I'm liking the smoker...but lack the patience to smoke for the correct
    amount of time. But the taste is good.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  10. "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Nancy has a copy of Dimitri's recipe..maybe we can induce her to post
    it again? 😉

    Heh, happy to.

    Prepare the corned beef as the package directs, except add 1 or 2 onions
    and a carrot to the pot. Coat the fat side with a paste of brown sugar and
    a lot of seedy mustard. Bake in a moderate (325 to 350) oven for about
    an hour.

    nancy

  11. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Nancy has a copy of Dimitri's recipe..maybe we can induce her to post
    it again? 😉

    Heh, happy to.

    Prepare the corned beef as the package directs, except add 1 or 2
    onions and a carrot to the pot. Coat the fat side with a paste of
    brown sugar and a lot of seedy mustard. Bake in a moderate (325 to
    350) oven for about an hour.

    nancy

    @@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

    Corned Beef & Cabbage Boiled By James Beard

    6 lb corned beef brisket
    1 each onion; peeled & stuck with:
    3 each cloves (for onion)
    10 large garlic cloves; peeled
    1 tablespoon pepper; freshly ground black
    ----ACCOMPANYING VEGETABLES----
    6 medium onions; peeled (stick cloves in o
    6 large carrots; scraped
    6 medium potatoes; (or 10 for hash)
    6 each turnips; peeled
    1 medium cabbage

    Note: To cook the corned beef you will need a good, 8 to 10 quart
    size pot which can be aluminum, Magnalite, Corning Ware or anything
    of that sort. The size is more important than the material. * Cooking
    the Corned Beef * Wipe the corned beef well with a damp cloth; put it
    in the pot and cover with cold water. Bring to a boil over rather
    high heat. Boil for 5 to 6 minutes, skimming off the grey foamy scum
    that rises to the surface with a wire skimmer or large spoon. This
    will give you a clearer, purer broth. It's very important with any
    boiled meat, to skim off this scum drawn from the meat. Add the onion
    stuck with cloves, the garlic cloves, and the pepper and boil another
    10 minutes, skimming. Then reduce the heat to a simmer (250dF on a
    burner with a thermostat), cover the pot, and let it simmer at a
    faint, gentle ebullition for 2 hours. At this point test the meat for
    tenderness with a large fork. As this is not a very tender piece of
    meat, it will offer some resistance, but it should just yield to the
    fork. You must be careful not to overcook corned beef or the meat
    will become dry and stringy. It's very important to maintain some
    moisture in the meat. If you are not sure about the tenderness,
    remove the meat to a plate and cut of a tiny piece from the edge and
    taste it. If you have a meat thermometer check the internal
    temperature, which should be between 145dF and 150dF. If the meat
    seems tender turn off the heat and let it rest in the liquid. If it
    does not test tender either continue cooking or, if you have started
    it in the morning and are ahead of serving time, leave it in the
    liquid and finish the cooking later. * Cooking the Vegetables * Start
    1 hour before serving. Traditionally, all the vegetables for a corned
    beef dinner are cooked in the pot with the meat. I have long since
    decided that the vegetables look and taste better if they are cooked
    separately in plain salted water, instead of in a briny, fatty broth.
    If you have sufficient pots and burners, I recommend that you follow
    this procedure, as each vegetable will then retain its own character
    and flavor. However, it is perfectly acceptable to cook the potatoes
    with the beef, provided you scrub them and leave them in their skins
    so they don't absorb the fat, and to use only one extra pot, first
    putting in the longest-cooking vegetables (the onions and carrots),
    then the turnips, and finally the cabbage. Or, if you have a large
    pot and a steamer, put the onions and carrots in the water and steam
    the turnips over them. Cook the cabbage separately.
    Here is a timetable for the vegetables:
    : ONIONS. Put in a pot with water to cover, season with 1 tblsp
    salt. Bring to a boil, cover, and simmer 1 hour or until crisply
    tender when tested with the point of a knife. : CARROTS. Follow the
    same procedure, seasoning the water with 2 tsps salt and 1/2 tsp.
    marjoram. Simmer 30 minutes, or until tender when tested.
    : POTATOES. Scrub but to not peel. Follow the same procedure,
    seasoning the water with 1 tblsp salt, or simmer with the corned beef
    for 30 minutes or until tender. If you are planning to make corned
    beer hash, cook the 4 extra potatoes, otherwise allow 1 potato per
    person. : TURNIPS. Leave whole if small; halve or quarter if large.
    Follow the same procedure, seasoning the water with 3 tsps salt.
    Simmer for 20 minutes or until tender when tested.
    : CABBAGE. Remove coarse or discolored outer leaves and cut in
    sixths. Put in a pot with water to cover, seasoned with 2 tsps salt;
    cover. Bring to a boil and boil rapidly for 10 to 12 minutes, or
    until just tender but not overcooked or soggy. When ready to serve,
    remove the beef and discard the broth as it cannot be saved for any
    other use. Let the beef stand on a hot platter in a warm place for 10
    minutes, to firm and settle the meat. This makes it easier to carve.
    Surround it with the drained vegetables, the potatoes still in their
    skins. Do not add butter. The vegetables are better plain. Slice only
    as much meat as you need, keeping the rest in one piece for future
    use. (Corned beef hash, or cold corned beef sandwiches). Serve with a
    variety of mustards, horseradish, and, if you have any, good homemade
    pickles.

    Yield: 6 servings
    ** Exported from Now You're Cooking! v5.82 **

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  12. hahabogus said:

    Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    hahabogus said:

    Christine Dabney <[email hidden]> wrote in

    Quoted message said:

    Alas corned beef isn't what I do to brisket....so far I only braise it
    in beer...but there is now a smoker in my life.

    Well...I have a new smoker too..but sadly, I haven't had much of a
    chance to put it together yet. However, it *has* to be put together
    this week, as I have some homecured bacon to smoke !!!

    Nancy has a copy of Dimitri's recipe..maybe we can induce her to post
    it again? 😉

    Christine

    So far I've smoked a boneless pork butt roast, 2 cut up chickens and
    several porksteaks (around 6)...Of all of them I likes the pork steaks
    the best. I use a rub,and mop with apple juice and finish with my apple
    butter bbq sauce. and wood I like hickory so far.

    I'm liking the smoker...but lack the patience to smoke for the correct
    amount of time. But the taste is good.

    Smoking,, takes little time,, The first 30 minutes or so the food has
    absorbed all the smoke that it's going to. A friend has gotten lazy
    and when smoking turkey, with take it off after 30 minutes or so (as
    soon as he gets bored) and puts it in the oven so he doesn't have to
    watch the temperature. To me, I like doing my yard chores, raking
    leaves mowing grass etc, and come back and check the temp every so
    often.. I do need to get one of those wireless thermometers though..
    The only real "rule" I've found in smoking is... Have the smoke going
    BEFORE you put the meat on. Otherwise the meat will get warm or hot
    and not absorb the smoke... ok two rules.. the second one is you CAN
    have too much smoke on a piece of meat.. and it will make your tongue
    feel numb when you taste it...

  13. Chuck (in SC) said:


    Smoking,, takes little time,, The first 30 minutes or so the food has
    absorbed all the smoke that it's going to. A friend has gotten lazy
    and when smoking turkey, with take it off after 30 minutes or so (as
    soon as he gets bored) and puts it in the oven so he doesn't have to
    watch the temperature. To me, I like doing my yard chores, raking
    leaves mowing grass etc.

    What kinda redneck southerner wuss are you, don't you know the ONLY
    chore permitted while smokin' is sucking down brewskis... and in the
    south THE wife keeps the cold ones a'comin' to lard assed Bubba
    Chuckie and she (Loretta Ann) does the yard chores while yoose'all
    laze, belch, n' fart.

    Sheldon North

  14. biig said:

    I'm a first time buyer of a piece of corned beef and would
    appreciate any tips on doing it right. I have several recipes but
    could use some tips....thanks....Sharon

    I like to throw it in the crockpot with the seasoning packet and a few extra
    bay leaves, cover it with water and let it cook on low about 6 hours. In
    the last half hour I'll dip out some of the water and use it to steam a
    quartered cabbage to go with 🙂

    Jill

  15. Sheldon said:
    Chuck (in SC) said:


    Smoking,, takes little time,, The first 30 minutes or so the food has
    absorbed all the smoke that it's going to. A friend has gotten lazy
    and when smoking turkey, with take it off after 30 minutes or so (as
    soon as he gets bored) and puts it in the oven so he doesn't have to
    watch the temperature. To me, I like doing my yard chores, raking
    leaves mowing grass etc.

    What kinda redneck southerner wuss are you, don't you know the ONLY
    chore permitted while smokin' is sucking down brewskis... and in the
    south THE wife keeps the cold ones a'comin' to lard assed Bubba
    Chuckie and she (Loretta Ann) does the yard chores while yoose'all
    laze, belch, n' fart.

    Sheldon North


    Where the hell you been? I thought you wuz done dead by now..
    Chuck (in SC)... experimenting with the sig file thingy...you know how
    us rednecks be..
    “Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid.”
    “If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.”
    John Wayne 1907-1979

    Chuck (in SC)

  16. hahabogus said:

    "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Nancy has a copy of Dimitri's recipe..maybe we can induce her to post
    it again? 😉

    Heh, happy to.

    Prepare the corned beef as the package directs, except add 1 or 2
    onions and a carrot to the pot. Coat the fat side with a paste of
    brown sugar and a lot of seedy mustard. Bake in a moderate (325 to
    350) oven for about an hour.

    nancy

    @@@@@ Now You're Cooking! Export Format

    Corned Beef & Cabbage Boiled By James Beard


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Then reduce the heat to a simmer (250dF on a
    burner with a thermostat), cover the pot, and let it simmer at a
    faint, gentle ebullition for 2 hours.

    'ebullition.' i like that, i don't think i've seen it before.

    your pal,
    blake

  17. On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:24:57 GMT, blake murphy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    don't think i've seen it before.

    your pal,

    pal...fifty line of drivel...just to add your one line of drivel?

  18. On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:02:26 -0400, Ward Abbott <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:24:57 GMT, blake murphy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    don't think i've seen it before.

    your pal,

    pal...fifty line of drivel...just to add your one line of drivel?

    what, did you sprain your lips?

    your pal,
    blake

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