Could hydrochlorothiazide cause tinnitus?

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(1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the time when
I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

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(2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is there a
different diurectic so that I could replace it to find out if this is the cause of my tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example of a
different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

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You are welcome :-)

Humbly,

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(1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the time
when I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

Quoted message said:

(2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is there a
different diurectic so that I could replace it to find out if this is the cause of my
tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example of a
different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

Thank you. I am trying to do away with diurectic all together. I used to lean on only one tablet of
10 mg Zestril before and I think by losing some weight and by having better sleep, I could do it now
as I did before. As a matter of fact, I am using only 1/2 of that tablet for today....and the
buzzing seems less. Could have been psychological...

May God Bless you!

FP

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Thank You,

FP

You are welcome :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

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(1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the time
when I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

Quoted message said:

(2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is there a
different diurectic so that I could replace it to find out if this is the cause of my
tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example of a
different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

I have switched to FUROSEMIDE this morning. The funny thing is: the buss seems to have gone back to
my left ear, which was how it started in the first place, instead of being at the top of my head,
which was the subsequent development. I do recognize that I am under the control of ATIVAN, which is
a powerful anti-anxiety drug that requires doctors' prescription.

Question:
(1)If this new diurectic proves to be unrelated to my tinnitus and cause other complication such as
constipation, could I switch back to hydrochlorothiazide? So far this is the first day and it
seems OK for the moment.
(2)Would the use of calcium channel blockers be less likely to cause tinnitus than ACE inhibitors?
I used Zestril many years ago with NO side effect of tinnitus but that was when I was much
younger then?

THX

FP
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Thank You,

FP

You are welcome :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

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(1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the time
when I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

Quoted message said:

(2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is there a
different diurectic so that I could replace it to find out if this is the cause of my
tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example of a
different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

Or when worse comes to be the worset, could I supplement that 10 mg of Zestril with a 2.5 mg calcium
channel blocker as a strengther?

Rdg.,

FP

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Thank You,

FP

You are welcome :-)

Humbly,

Andrew

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(1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the time
when I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

Quoted message said:

(2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is there
a different diurectic so that I could replace it to find out if this is the cause of my
tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example of
a different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

Thank you. I am trying to do away with diurectic all together. I used to lean on only one tablet
of 10 mg Zestril before and I think by losing some weight and by having better sleep, I could do
it now as I did before. As a matter of fact, I am using only 1/2 of that tablet for today....and
the buzzing seems less. Could have been psychological...

May God Bless you!

Thank you :-)

And may He bless you!

Remembering the reason for the season,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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(1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the time
when I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

Quoted message said:

(2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is there
a different diurectic so that I could replace it to find out if this is the cause of my
tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example of
a different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

I have switched to FUROSEMIDE this morning. The funny thing is: the buss seems to have gone back
to my left ear, which was how it started in the first place, instead of being at the top of my
head, which was the subsequent development. I do recognize that I am under the control of ATIVAN,
which is a powerful anti-anxiety drug that requires doctors' prescription.

Question:
(1)If this new diurectic proves to be unrelated to my tinnitus and cause other complication such
as constipation, could I switch back to hydrochlorothiazide?

I don't see why not.

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So far this is the first day and it seems OK for the moment.
(2)Would the use of calcium channel blockers be less likely to cause tinnitus than ACE inhibitors?

Tinnitus is an uncommon side effect of antihypertensives in general whether CCBs or ACE-Is.

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I used Zestril many years ago with NO side effect of tinnitus but that was when I was much
younger then?

THX

You are welcome.

Humbly,

Andrew

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Board-Certified Cardiologist
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> (1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the
> time when I involved it in my bp regime.

It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.

> (2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is
> there a different diurectic so that I

could

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> replace it to find out if this is the cause of my tinnitus.

There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An example
of a different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

Thank you. I am trying to do away with diurectic all together. I used to lean on only one tablet
of 10 mg Zestril before and I think by losing some weight and by having better sleep, I could do
it now as I did before. As a matter of fact, I am using only 1/2 of that tablet for today....and
the buzzing seems less. Could have been psychological...

May God Bless you!

Thank you :-)

And may He bless you!

Remembering the reason for the season,

Andrew

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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

:-)

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> > (1)It says so on a website I once visited and my tinnitus occurred 'more or less' at the
> > time when I involved it in my bp regime.
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> It is not a side effect commonly associated with hydrochlorothiazide.
>
> > (2)I am using it in conjunction with Zestrial, which is a very effective combination. Is
> > there a different diurectic so that I

could

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> > replace it to find out if this is the cause of my tinnitus.
>
> There are may different kinds of diuretics in the same class and in other classes. An
> example of a different kind of diuretic would be furosemide.

Thank you. I am trying to do away with diurectic all together. I used to lean on only one
tablet of 10 mg Zestril before and I think by losing some weight and by having better sleep, I
could do it now as I did before. As a matter of fact, I am using only 1/2 of that tablet for
today....and the buzzing seems less. Could have been psychological...

May God Bless you!

Thank you :-)

And may He bless you!

Remembering the reason for the season,

Andrew

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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

:-)

Jesus will not only bless you but He will heal you :-)

See:

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Humbly,

Andrew

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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

Bob, be a bit careful with the 'spiritual' elements. We as human beings and what we know are very
finite. Dr Chung is not glorifying Saddam or Hilter and is helping many of us here who could not
afford to pay for expensive and oftentimes useless medical advices. That, I think, is a thought
worth pondering upon.

FP
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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

:-)

Jesus will not only bless you but He will heal you :-)

Are you saying we don't have to go to doctors anymore? Matt

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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

Bob, be a bit careful with the 'spiritual' elements. We as human beings and what we know are very
finite. Dr Chung is not glorifying Saddam or Hilter and is helping many of us here who could not
afford to pay for expensive and oftentimes useless medical advices. That, I think, is a thought
worth pondering upon.

FP
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:-)

I'd like to think Dr. Chung is saying that He/She might grant you the serenity to accept that which
you aren't likely to change. The simple truth, at this point in time, is that there is no cure for
the most common form of T. If you have ruled out T caused by a tumor pressing on your auditory nerve
and T caused by a vascular condition, then acceptance is your best avenue to habituation. In fact,
playing around with a myriad of different concoctions while monitoring your T is likely to
exacerbate your condition.

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> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗
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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

:-)

Jesus will not only bless you but He will heal you :-)

Are you saying we don't have to go to doctors anymore? Matt

The other way to say this is: Jesus or whoever Dr. Chung believes in, will send someone to help heal
you. Frankly, my blood pressure would not have been normalized without Dr. Chung's bringing up the
concept of 'spike-ups' caused by the use of short-lived beta-blocker. None of the 7 doctors I have
visited, including two from HK Adventist Hospital, have no clue of this. As a result, I suffered for
several months immensely from their prescription.

In my past life, I have experienced some supernatural events to the point that at this moment,
almost anything is possible to me. After all, how much we as human entities could comprehend what
actually goes on in this universe. We are very finite beings.

So continue to be skeptical of whatever as you please. But don;t forget that our knowledge of
anything in this universe is so very very limited.

Rdg.,

FP

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> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗
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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

:-)

Jesus will not only bless you but He will heal you :-)

Are you saying we don't have to go to doctors anymore?

This will become true the next time Jesus visits the world.

Until then, you will have to settle for His physician-servants :-)

Without Jesus, no doctor can heal you.

Humbly,

Andrew

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> Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!
>
> :-)

Jesus will not only bless you but He will heal you :-)

Are you saying we don't have to go to doctors anymore? Matt

After all, how much we as human entities could comprehend what actually goes on in this universe.

Not that much. There is more to learn than we already know.

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So continue to be skeptical of whatever as you please.

I'm mostly just playing with Chung. It's fun for a while. <g>

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But don;t forget that our knowledge of anything in this universe is so very very limited.

True, especially with something as complex as medicine. <g> Many doctors seem to forget this. Some
even think they know the absolute truth. Matt

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

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>>Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗
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>Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!
>
>:-)

Jesus will not only bless you but He will heal you :-)

Are you saying we don't have to go to doctors anymore?

This will become true the next time Jesus visits the world.

Until then, you will have to settle for His physician-servants :-)

Without Jesus, no doctor can heal you.

Probably why there are no Jewish doctors. Or Hindu doctors. Or Buddhist doctors. That explains it.

Pastorio

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Yes, and if your God will bless me, my God says She will bless you!

Bob, be a bit careful with the 'spiritual' elements. We as human beings and what we know are
very finite. Dr Chung is not glorifying Saddam or Hilter and is helping many of us here who
could not afford to pay for expensive and oftentimes useless medical advices. That, I think, is
a thought worth pondering upon.

FP
======================>

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:-)

I'd like to think Dr. Chung is saying that He/She might grant you the serenity to accept that
which you aren't likely to change. The simple truth, at this point in time, is that there is no
cure for the most common form of T. If you have ruled out T caused by a tumor pressing on your
auditory nerve and T caused by a vascular condition,

Then could a blood thinner like aspirin or cholestrol reducer do the job?

Rdg.,

FP
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then acceptance is your

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best avenue to habituation. In fact, playing around with a myriad of different concoctions while
monitoring your T is likely to exacerbate your condition.

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I'd like to think Dr. Chung is saying that He/She might grant you the serenity to accept that
which you aren't likely to change. The simple truth, at this point in time, is that there is no
cure for the most

common

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form of T. If you have ruled out T caused by a tumor pressing on your auditory nerve and T
caused by a vascular condition,

Then could a blood thinner like aspirin or cholestrol reducer do the job?

Rdg.,

FP
=======================================

Aspirin, in quantity, will cause your ears to ring. I don't know about cholesterol lowering drugs
however I'm certain Stephen can give you a list of drugs that exacerbate T. I think you need to have
your T characterized by an ENT. From what you have said, it isn't a manifestation of some vascular
condition but then who am I to know?

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Tinnitus is an uncommon side effect of antihypertensives in general whether CCBs or ACE-Is.

Diurectics THICKENS my blood, which is already thick and filled with junks. In doing so, it hinders
oxygen supply to the brain. And the moderate buzz might have been a signal sent out by the brain
that the amount of oxygen it receives is not enough.

Does this make any medical sense to you? For your information, my doctor here in China has strongly
urged me to completely cut any kind of diurectis off my bp medicine regime for the above-mentioned
reason. And I have done just that today.

Rdg.,

FP
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I used Zestril many years ago with NO side effect of tinnitus but that was when I was much
younger then?

THX

You are welcome.

Humbly,

Andrew

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I'd like to think Dr. Chung is saying that He/She might grant you the serenity to accept that
which you aren't likely to change. The simple truth, at this point in time, is that there is
no cure for the most

common

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form of T. If you have ruled out T caused by a tumor pressing on your auditory nerve and T
caused by a vascular condition,

Then could a blood thinner like aspirin or cholestrol reducer do the job?

Rdg.,

FP
=======================================

Aspirin, in quantity, will cause your ears to ring. I don't know about cholesterol lowering drugs
however I'm certain Stephen can give you a list of drugs that exacerbate T. I think you need to
have your T characterized by an ENT.

What does this ENT stand for? And where do I find it? It T-Gone some kind of ENT?

From what you have said, it isn't a manifestation of some

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vascular condition but then who am I to know?

I do have a lot of junk in my blood, according to the blood composition test.

THX

FP