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  1. Hi All,

    Has anyone used a Moustache bar mounted backwards?

    I like pursuit style bars for stretching out into a headwind and
    particularly for standing climbing, but for sitting cruising, a
    comfortable wrist angle would be with narrow swept back bars like seen
    on some recumbents.

    Looking at the Nitto moustache bar, it looks like backwards it might
    do the trick. But I'd need a crazy long stem and maybe would have knee
    to bar interferecnce when standing.

    Any normal bars with a swept back shape that are comfortable for my
    wrists, have the hand positions too far back for well-balanced
    standing climbing.

    Any suggestions on strange bar types I might have a look at?

    Joseph

  2. email hidden said:

    Hi All,

    Has anyone used a Moustache bar mounted backwards?

    I like pursuit style bars for stretching out into a headwind and
    particularly for standing climbing, but for sitting cruising, a
    comfortable wrist angle would be with narrow swept back bars like seen
    on some recumbents.

    Looking at the Nitto moustache bar, it looks like backwards it might
    do the trick. But I'd need a crazy long stem and maybe would have knee
    to bar interferecnce when standing.

    I think you would hit your knees.

    Quoted message said:


    Any normal bars with a swept back shape that are comfortable for my
    wrists, have the hand positions too far back for well-balanced
    standing climbing.

    Any suggestions on strange bar types I might have a look at?

    Joseph

    I guess I don't understand exactly what you're trying for. Maybe some
    links to photos would help. It sounds like for cruising, you want
    your palms angled toward the back-centerline of the bike, as with
    North Road bars http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsup.
    Is that right?

    Moustache bars do that, Are they perhaps too wide for you?

    If North Road bars satisfy the cruising requirement, but don't give a
    "stretch out" position, perhaps addition of an aero bar or bar ends
    could give you what you need.

    And there are Bike Friday's "H" bars, which might also be modified to
    your liking.
    http://store.bikefriday.com/index.php?osCsid=27a043d64529f1a6e53731a6b5d0953a&osCsid=27a043d64529f1a6e53731a6b5d0953a&cPath=155
    or http://tinyurl.com/3d7596

    Are any of these anywhere close to what you're seeking?

    - Frank Krygowski

  3. Quoted message said:

    On Jan 31, 7:17 am, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:

    Has anyone used a Moustache bar mounted backwards?

    Quoted message said:

    I like pursuit style bars for stretching out into a headwind and
    particularly for standing climbing, but for sitting cruising, a
    comfortable wrist angle would be with narrow swept back bars like seen
    on some recumbents.

    Quoted message said:

    Looking at the Nitto moustache bar, it looks like backwards it might
    do the trick. But I'd need a crazy long stem and maybe would have knee
    to bar interferecnce when standing.

    I think you would hit your knees.

    Quoted message said:

    Any normal bars with a swept back shape that are comfortable for my
    wrists, have the hand positions too far back for well-balanced
    standing climbing.

    Quoted message said:

    Any suggestions on strange bar types I might have a look at?

    Quoted message said:

    Joseph

    I guess I don't understand exactly what you're trying for.  Maybe some
    links to photos would help.  It sounds like for cruising, you want
    your palms angled toward the back-centerline of the bike, as with
    North Road barshttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsup.
    Is that right?

    Moustache bars do that,  Are they perhaps too wide for you?

    If North Road bars satisfy the cruising requirement, but don't give a
    "stretch out" position, perhaps addition of an aero bar or bar ends
    could give you what you need.

    And there are Bike Friday's "H" bars, which might also be modified to
    your liking.http://store.bikefriday.com/index.php?osCsid=27a043d64529f1a6e53731a6...
    orhttp://tinyurl.com/3d7596

    Are any of these anywhere close to what you're seeking?

    - Frank Krygowski

    The North Road bars look like the hand/wrist angle I'm looking for,
    but they are too wide. I'd like my hands to be closer together when in
    that angle.

    Headwind stretch-out isn't really that important, but the pursuit bars
    give a good standing climbing postion, like on the hoods for drop
    bars. Having the grip area not far enough forward makes for clumsy
    standing. Like when I try to stand holding the tops of drop bars.

    The thread about the $$$ bike-path Trek reminded me of the existence
    of Spinaci. Those on some pursuit bars might do it. Just adjusted far
    back enough and upright enough not to rest my forearms on the bar. But
    the mounting brackets would ruin one of my other favorite positions.

    Joseph

  4. email hidden said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jan 31, 7:17 am, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Has anyone used a Moustache bar mounted backwards?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I like pursuit style bars for stretching out into a headwind and
    particularly for standing climbing, but for sitting cruising, a
    comfortable wrist angle would be with narrow swept back bars like seen
    on some recumbents.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Looking at the Nitto moustache bar, it looks like backwards it might
    do the trick. But I'd need a crazy long stem and maybe would have knee
    to bar interferecnce when standing.

    Quoted message said:

    I think you would hit your knees.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Any normal bars with a swept back shape that are comfortable for my
    wrists, have the hand positions too far back for well-balanced
    standing climbing.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Any suggestions on strange bar types I might have a look at?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Joseph

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I don't understand exactly what you're trying for.  Maybe some
    links to photos would help.  It sounds like for cruising, you want
    your palms angled toward the back-centerline of the bike, as with
    North Road barshttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsup.
    Is that right?

    Quoted message said:

    Moustache bars do that,  Are they perhaps too wide for you?

    Quoted message said:

    If North Road bars satisfy the cruising requirement, but don't give a
    "stretch out" position, perhaps addition of an aero bar or bar ends
    could give you what you need.

    Quoted message said:

    And there are Bike Friday's "H" bars, which might also be modified to
    your liking.http://store.bikefriday.com/index.php?osCsid=27a043d64529f1a6e53731a6...
    orhttp://tinyurl.com/3d7596

    Quoted message said:

    Are any of these anywhere close to what you're seeking?

    Quoted message said:

    - Frank Krygowski

    The North Road bars look like the hand/wrist angle I'm looking for,
    but they are too wide. I'd like my hands to be closer together when in
    that angle.

    Headwind stretch-out isn't really that important, but the pursuit bars
    give a good standing climbing postion, like on the hoods for drop
    bars. Having the grip area not far enough forward makes for clumsy
    standing. Like when I try to stand holding the tops of drop bars.

    The thread about the $$$ bike-path Trek reminded me of the existence
    of Spinaci. Those on some pursuit bars might do it. Just adjusted far
    back enough and upright enough not to rest my forearms on the bar. But
    the mounting brackets would ruin one of my other favorite positions.

    Joseph- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    There's also Titec's variation on the H Bar:

    http://www.titec.com/

    /s

  5. Scott Gordo said:

    On Jan 31, 12:53 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    On Jan 31, 6:02 pm, [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jan 31, 7:17 am, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > Hi All,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Has anyone used a Moustache bar mounted backwards?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I like pursuit style bars for stretching out into a headwind and
    > particularly for standing climbing, but for sitting cruising, a
    > comfortable wrist angle would be with narrow swept back bars like seen
    > on some recumbents.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Looking at the Nitto moustache bar, it looks like backwards it might
    > do the trick. But I'd need a crazy long stem and maybe would have knee
    > to bar interferecnce when standing.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think you would hit your knees.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Any normal bars with a swept back shape that are comfortable for my
    > wrists, have the hand positions too far back for well-balanced
    > standing climbing.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Any suggestions on strange bar types I might have a look at?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Joseph

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I guess I don't understand exactly what you're trying for.  Maybe some
    links to photos would help.  It sounds like for cruising, you want
    your palms angled toward the back-centerline of the bike, as with
    North Road barshttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsup.
    Is that right?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Moustache bars do that,  Are they perhaps too wide for you?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If North Road bars satisfy the cruising requirement, but don't give a
    "stretch out" position, perhaps addition of an aero bar or bar ends
    could give you what you need.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And there are Bike Friday's "H" bars, which might also be modified to
    your liking.http://store.bikefriday.com/index.php?osCsid=27a043d64529f1a6e53731a6...
    orhttp://tinyurl.com/3d7596

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are any of these anywhere close to what you're seeking?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - Frank Krygowski

    Quoted message said:

    The North Road bars look like the hand/wrist angle I'm looking for,
    but they are too wide. I'd like my hands to be closer together when in
    that angle.

    Quoted message said:

    Headwind stretch-out isn't really that important, but the pursuit bars
    give a good standing climbing postion, like on the hoods for drop
    bars. Having the grip area not far enough forward makes for clumsy
    standing. Like when I try to stand holding the tops of drop bars.

    Quoted message said:

    The thread about the $$$ bike-path Trek reminded me of the existence
    of Spinaci. Those on some pursuit bars might do it. Just adjusted far
    back enough and upright enough not to rest my forearms on the bar. But
    the mounting brackets would ruin one of my other favorite positions.

    Quoted message said:

    Joseph- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    There's also Titec's variation on the H Bar:

    http://www.titec.com/

    /s

    Those are interesting. Too wide, and lacking the forward hand position
    I'm looking for.

    If the Deda Synapsi was about $500 cheaper, not made from carbon,
    available in a pursuit rather than drop, and not with an integrated
    stem, it would be what I'm looking for, assuming the triangle is big
    enough for my hands:

    http://www.glorycycles.com/desyincabar.html

    And I want a pony.

    Joseph

  6. aka Joseph Santaniello said:

    ...
    And I want a pony.


    Be careful what you wish for:
    <http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/strips/20080103.jpg>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
    - A. Derleth

  7. Quoted message said:
    Scott Gordo said:

    On Jan 31, 12:53 pm, "[email hidden]"

    Quoted message said:

    On Jan 31, 6:02 pm, [email hidden] wrote:
    > On Jan 31, 7:17 am, "[email hidden]"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> Hi All,
    >> Has anyone used a Moustache bar mounted backwards?
    >> I like pursuit style bars for stretching out into a headwind and
    >> particularly for standing climbing, but for sitting cruising, a
    >> comfortable wrist angle would be with narrow swept back bars like seen
    >> on some recumbents.
    >> Looking at the Nitto moustache bar, it looks like backwards it might
    >> do the trick. But I'd need a crazy long stem and maybe would have knee
    >> to bar interferecnce when standing.
    > I think you would hit your knees.
    >> Any normal bars with a swept back shape that are comfortable for my
    >> wrists, have the hand positions too far back for well-balanced
    >> standing climbing.
    >> Any suggestions on strange bar types I might have a look at?
    >> Joseph
    > I guess I don't understand exactly what you're trying for. Maybe some
    > links to photos would help. It sounds like for cruising, you want
    > your palms angled toward the back-centerline of the bike, as with
    > North Road barshttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsup.
    > Is that right?
    > Moustache bars do that, Are they perhaps too wide for you?
    > If North Road bars satisfy the cruising requirement, but don't give a
    > "stretch out" position, perhaps addition of an aero bar or bar ends
    > could give you what you need.
    > And there are Bike Friday's "H" bars, which might also be modified to
    > your liking.http://store.bikefriday.com/index.php?osCsid=27a043d64529f1a6e53731a6...
    > orhttp://tinyurl.com/3d7596
    > Are any of these anywhere close to what you're seeking?
    > - Frank Krygowski
    The North Road bars look like the hand/wrist angle I'm looking for,
    but they are too wide. I'd like my hands to be closer together when in
    that angle.
    Headwind stretch-out isn't really that important, but the pursuit bars
    give a good standing climbing postion, like on the hoods for drop
    bars. Having the grip area not far enough forward makes for clumsy
    standing. Like when I try to stand holding the tops of drop bars.
    The thread about the $$$ bike-path Trek reminded me of the existence
    of Spinaci. Those on some pursuit bars might do it. Just adjusted far
    back enough and upright enough not to rest my forearms on the bar. But
    the mounting brackets would ruin one of my other favorite positions.
    Joseph- Hide quoted text -
    - Show quoted text -


    There's also Titec's variation on the H Bar:

    http://www.titec.com/

    /s

    Those are interesting. Too wide, and lacking the forward hand position
    I'm looking for.

    If the Deda Synapsi was about $500 cheaper, not made from carbon,
    available in a pursuit rather than drop, and not with an integrated
    stem, it would be what I'm looking for, assuming the triangle is big
    enough for my hands:

    http://www.glorycycles.com/desyincabar.html

    And I want a pony.

    Joseph

    Stab in the dark, I have these on my fixer (Scott AT-3), my favorite bar
    for out of the saddle climbing:
    <http://www.bikepro.com/products/handlebars/scott_combo.html>

    No longer made, but show up occasionally on EBay.

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