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Critics want supplement risks reported to FDA, correction

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  1. Url before was incomplete:

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  2. And they ignore the deaths and disabilities caused by
    properly prescribed statin drugs. (but there's big money to
    the pharmaceuticals for this...)

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    Url before was incomplete:

    tinyurl.com23yh4

  3. Yes I say it because it is so. If trade harmonization is to
    be the case, which it is not in this instance, it will be
    so regardless of the current or amended law. I once saw a
    industry "talking points" list they suggested be brought up
    when this issue was discussed, the red herring/strawman
    about practices in other countries was among them, as were
    others one sees here often. Even as you outline below, each
    country is now doing it's own thing. Those products can be
    sold here, if we refused then the trade agreements might
    kick in as a restraint of trade issue, but this is not and
    your fears are misplaced, the fda is not the eu or any
    other country.

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    You say the actions of EU and EU national governments
    aren't relavant? Nonsense, haven't you every heard of trade
    harmonization? I used specific examples of what big
    government does when it regulates nutrients. It justs says
    "NO" or at least that is its primary inpulse. Try to buy
    l-carnitine in Canada, you can't ....not without a
    prescription. Nor can you in Australia, not isolate amino
    acids. The Australian government is currently trying to
    force these regulation down the throat of New Zealand. Try
    to buy anything beyond a 100% of the French RDI and you
    won't be able to in France. Why becauses they have
    regulations like what you want. This is not strawman or red
    herring, these are the way the real world works. You are
    just plugging your ears and closing your eyes and repeating
    your mantra.

    You need to be renamed Mooshe.
    .....................William A. Noyes

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    They are also seriously under funded in this specific
    area also by those supporting the supplement biz. If you
    are concerned, write your gov reps for increased funding
    and activity in that area. The rest of the rant is a red
    herring held aloft and waved about by a strawman. The
    current push is to get the companies to report side
    effects and dangerous incidents reported to them and in
    serious cases to ask the company to provide safty
    demonstration research.

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    The FDA currently has the authority to test and recall
    products that don't contain what they say. They don't.
    If we go to a French model you would not be able to get
    a supplement beyond a 100 percent of RDI, AI, etc. You
    won't be a to get an amino acid supplement without a
    physicians say so. You won't be able to get inositol,
    gamma tocopherol, vitamin K, CoQ-10, or lipoic acid if
    they don't make the list (at least


    over

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    the counter and perhaps not at all) . And on the
    European Union list most of these didn't make it if I
    recall correctly. And at least in France, the government
    will pay for prescriptions so when..........in the
    American model one largely get to pay out of


    pocket.

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    Mark de Toad wants 100% proof on everything. In science,
    that hardly


    every

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    happens and when it does it is just a strong sales job
    by a big drug corporation;-(

    William A. Noyes

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