Curious about the cross posting

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Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

I'm not an expert on Chung, nor do I care to become one, but when this
started happening I got the impression that someone from here had
engaged him elsewhere and that's how he got over here. He may have
initiated the crossposting or the other person may have.

Crossposting is bad enough but the way he keeps changing his screen
name is heinous. If crossposting is littering, deliberately thwarting
people who want to killfile your spam is vandalism IMO.

Naomi said:

I'm not an expert on Chung, nor do I care to become one, but when this
started happening I got the impression that someone from here had
engaged him elsewhere and that's how he got over here. He may have
initiated the crossposting or the other person may have.

Right. Bob Pastorio.

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Goomba38 said:

Naomi said:

I'm not an expert on Chung, nor do I care to become one, but when this
started happening I got the impression that someone from here had
engaged him elsewhere and that's how he got over here. He may have
initiated the crossposting or the other person may have.

Right. Bob Pastorio.

Shh. Don't say his name so loud.

Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

Rumor has it that he crossposts here to annoy one of our regulars... but
I stand to be corrected.

Quoted message said:

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if this
group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology, and he gets away
with it without being charged with abuse because of this relationship.
Perhaps it takes much more to abuse one's posting privileges than this sort
of spam.

I am sure we are not the only group that is honored by his "invaluable
advice".

Quoted message said:

I've already kf'd him, but perhaps I can do another message rule where a
posting is deleted where the name "chung" is included.

I usually kf all of this respondents, but this "blocked senders" list is
getting a little long; thusly, it is not as easily searchable when I am
looking to unblock a sender that I have blocked by mistake.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just make a message rule for a particular
subject.

I don't know which newsreader you use Dee, but I just "kill" any thread
that he is involved in and that seems to keep the "respondents" out too
(mostly).

OBFood: We had baked trout with potatoes and zucchini tonight - along
with Christine's Lemon Sauce - was very good indeed.

Cheers
Cathy(xyz)

"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if this
group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology, and he gets
away with it without being charged with abuse because of this
relationship. Perhaps it takes much more to abuse one's posting privileges
than this sort of spam.

I don't think there is any intent. It happens accidentally due to the
abysmal stupidity of these people and their complete disregard for norms of
USENET courtesy.

I don't know who is dumber, chung or the people who try to reason with him.
Might as well talk to a turnip.

--
Peter Aitken

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"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if this
group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology, and he gets
away with it without being charged with abuse because of this
relationship. Perhaps it takes much more to abuse one's posting
privileges than this sort of spam.

I don't think there is any intent. It happens accidentally due to the
abysmal stupidity of these people and their complete disregard for norms
of USENET courtesy.

I don't know who is dumber, chung or the people who try to reason with
him. Might as well talk to a turnip.

--
Peter Aitken

There must be *some* intent, because it keeps happening. I can see where
someone might accidentally send a message to an irrelevant newsgroup, in
additon to the intended one, but not over & over again.

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Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

Pastorio is a rival of Chung's so now he always adds RFC to his
crosspostings to bug This One.

The act of a true troll. <sigh>
I just KF the posters and subjects.

Quoted message said:

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if this
group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology, and he gets away
with it without being charged with abuse because of this relationship.
Perhaps it takes much more to abuse one's posting privileges than this sort
of spam.

He does it to abuse and annoy people.
It's what trolls do.

Hope that helps?

Quoted message said:

I've already kf'd him, but perhaps I can do another message rule where a
posting is deleted where the name "chung" is included.

I usually kf all of this respondents, but this "blocked senders" list is
getting a little long; thusly, it is not as easily searchable when I am
looking to unblock a sender that I have blocked by mistake.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just make a message rule for a particular
subject.

Dee Dee

--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Naomi said:

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Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

I'm not an expert on Chung, nor do I care to become one, but when this
started happening I got the impression that someone from here had
engaged him elsewhere and that's how he got over here. He may have
initiated the crossposting or the other person may have.

It's the same thing as what is happening with one of the Bobs. Someone
crossposted and there were some replies then the crossposting is now up
to 3 ng instead of 2. It is now destined to grow from there 🙁

Quoted message said:

Crossposting is bad enough but the way he keeps changing his screen
name is heinous. If crossposting is littering, deliberately thwarting
people who want to killfile your spam is vandalism IMO.

I finally got chung killfiled nicely then his sock puppets started up.
PCVC is another poster that continuously tries to evade killfiles. I
used the same technique on it as I did chung. You have to killfile
based on something other than its name <hint>

My thoughts - These crossposters and trolls want attention yet seldom
read the ngs they post to. Some trolls will read to see if they get
attention but the crossposters don't. They are looking at bring other
trolls into the crossposted ngs. That tactic works only if we let it.
Killfiles and ignorning go a long way!

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

Pastorio is a rival of Chung's so now he always adds RFC to his
crosspostings to bug This One.

Very, very interesting. Because, of course, I've kf'd Chung, but I've never
been able to 'reconstitute' Pastorio, and I've never kf'd Pastorio on
purpose. There has got to be a connection there. Hmm.

I see replies to Pastorio's postings or his answers to other postings.

I think I'll just carry on by blocking subjects. At one time I blocked
words in subjects, but they have new words coming up all the time -- can't
keep ahead of them.
Thanks,
Dee Dee

Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

I must have had him killfiled for a long time, I don't see those posts
you're talking about. Are they the religious posts?
The "burger wars" thread was crossposted to ARK by me, which I did
because some regulars there have some good posts about food. Or, they
used to. I forgot the only people left on ARK are [censored]. My
mistake. And now I guess they're trolling "(this one)". Whether he
deserves it or not is an exercise left up to the reader.

Quoted message said:

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if this
group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology,

If it's the guy I'm thinking of, I've seen him on alt.obits, some
health groups, and a few science groups. He just trolls Usenet
constantly, we're not the only lucky ones.

Stacia

~patches~ said:

It's the same thing as what is happening with one of the Bobs. Someone
crossposted and there were some replies then the crossposting is now up
to 3 ng instead of 2. It is now destined to grow from there 🙁

Is the person who goes by "(this one)" Bob Pastorio? I had no idea.
If he's the one who brought Chung here then who knows how long that
thread I x-posted to ARK will go on. Gah. I suck.

Stacia

Glitter Ninja said:

~patches~ said:

It's the same thing as what is happening with one of the Bobs. Someone
crossposted and there were some replies then the crossposting is now up
to 3 ng instead of 2. It is now destined to grow from there 🙁

Is the person who goes by "(this one)" Bob Pastorio?

Yes. I am.

Quoted message said:

I had no idea.
If he's the one who brought Chung here

Chung brought himself here. He started crossposting to several groups I
read to try to embarrass me.

Pastorio

Dee Randall said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to the
various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to ask
Chung -- which I don't care to do.

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if this
group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology, and he gets away
with it without being charged with abuse because of this relationship.
Perhaps it takes much more to abuse one's posting privileges than this sort
of spam.

I've already kf'd him, but perhaps I can do another message rule where a
posting is deleted where the name "chung" is included.

I usually kf all of this respondents, but this "blocked senders" list is
getting a little long; thusly, it is not as easily searchable when I am
looking to unblock a sender that I have blocked by mistake.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just make a message rule for a particular
subject.

Dee Dee

I just delete his posts and the responses to them. His posts do
nothing to promote Christianity. My church encourages evangelism, but
there is a time and place and this forum is not it.....Sharon

"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> hitched up their panties and posted
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Quoted message said:

I am curious as to how it was determined to add rec.food.cooking to
the various other cross postings of Chung's. I know I would have to
ask Chung -- which I don't care to do.

But I'm wondering if he does this with other groups as well; or if
this group is singled out because of his interest in cardiology, and
he gets away with it without being charged with abuse because of this
relationship. Perhaps it takes much more to abuse one's posting
privileges than this sort of spam.

I've already kf'd him, but perhaps I can do another message rule where
a posting is deleted where the name "chung" is included.

I usually kf all of this respondents, but this "blocked senders" list
is getting a little long; thusly, it is not as easily searchable when
I am looking to unblock a sender that I have blocked by mistake.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just make a message rule for a
particular subject.

Dee Dee

I kf all crossposts. My newsreader allows me this option. I never see
this Chung person.

Michael

--
"The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
found."

--Calvin Trillin

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Quoted message said:

Glitter Ninja said:

~patches~ said:

It's the same thing as what is happening with one of the Bobs. Someone
crossposted and there were some replies then the crossposting is now up
to 3 ng instead of 2. It is now destined to grow from there 🙁

Is the person who goes by "(this one)" Bob Pastorio?

Yes. I am.

Quoted message said:

I had no idea. If he's the one who brought Chung here

Chung brought himself here. He started crossposting to several groups I
read to try to embarrass me.

Pastorio

Really? Everything I have seen from chang is an embarrassment to himself, no
one else. His Jesus malarkey is the most feeble-minded tripe I have ever
heard. Do you really want to waste your time on him?

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Peter Aitken said:

Really? Everything I have seen from chang is an embarrassment to himself, no
one else. His Jesus malarkey is the most feeble-minded tripe I have ever
heard. Do you really want to waste your time on him?

It might help a little if, whenever (this) wastes his time by posting a
response to Chung he would delete rfc from the header and just send it
to the other group(s). We'd be spared at least one post's worth of
that [censored]. (Well, I assume it's [censored] -- I don't read it. All the
headers still clog things up.) -aem

"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've already kf'd him, but perhaps I can do another message rule where a
posting is deleted where the name "chung" is included.

I usually kf all of this respondents, but this "blocked senders" list is
getting a little long; thusly, it is not as easily searchable when I am
looking to unblock a sender that I have blocked by mistake.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just make a message rule for a particular
subject.

I was getting so sick of all the posts replying to his posts, so I just
thought of creating the rule that deletes all the words I could think of to
do with religion in the subject line. Hopefully that will do the trick.

Jen

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Bob (this one) said:

Glitter Ninja said:

~patches~ said:

It's the same thing as what is happening with one of the Bobs. Someone
crossposted and there were some replies then the crossposting is now up
to 3 ng instead of 2. It is now destined to grow from there 🙁

Is the person who goes by "(this one)" Bob Pastorio?

Yes. I am.

Quoted message said:

I had no idea.
If he's the one who brought Chung here

Chung brought himself here. He started crossposting to several groups I
read to try to embarrass me.

Pastorio

You have my sincere sympathies Bob. :-(
I've had trolls do that to me and it really sux!

At least he is not copying your identity. I've had that happen too.
Now if and when I engage trolls, I use a different ID. MT newswatcher
makes that easy.

The alternative identity can then be easily killfiled by me and everyone
else. :-)

I don't see any of chung's posts. I have a "word" kill function and even
if he changes ID's, "Chung" is nearly always in the sender title. I only
see replies to it so I use a subject killfile for those.
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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"Dee Randall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've already kf'd him, but perhaps I can do another message rule where a
posting is deleted where the name "chung" is included.

I usually kf all of this respondents, but this "blocked senders" list is
getting a little long; thusly, it is not as easily searchable when I am
looking to unblock a sender that I have blocked by mistake.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just make a message rule for a particular
subject.

I was getting so sick of all the posts replying to his posts, so I just
thought of creating the rule that deletes all the words I could think of
to do with religion in the subject line. Hopefully that will do the
trick.

Jen

I've got it! I've got it!
Here's how.
Using OE. I subscribed to all the newsgroups that I think Chung's and
related persons are posted to. Then I made a message rule for each of these
particular newsgroups to be deleted before coming in. Then I unsubscribed
to them.
(P.S. - I could not delete these newsgroups until I actually subscribed to
them).
Dee Dee