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  1. I've noticed a big difference in the pads in cycling shorts.

    My own most comfortable is a pair of fairly cheap "Trek" brand shorts,
    where the pad is fairly wide. I've noticed discomfort with shorts
    where the pad is too narrow in the crotch area. I think it's because,
    while the narrower pad's edges are wide enough to extend down past the
    edge of a bike seat, they fall short on a uni seat and create a bump
    under my inner thigh where the pad ends partway down the side of the
    seat.

    Do you have similar (or dissimilar) observations? Do you have a
    cycling short brand you prefer or even swear by? I'm looking to
    purchase a couple new pairs and wanted to put this thread out and see
    what everyone's opinions are on the matter.

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  2. I'm in the same boat here... needing new shorts. In addition to
    steveyo's query, I'm wondering how the thickness of padding affects
    one's comfort. I have one pair that's quite thin and another that
    makes me feel like I've got a phone book between my legs. Oddly enough
    I'm finding the thin padding more comfortable.

    If you can, please compare / contrast the benefits of padding
    thickness. Thanks!

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  3. maestro8 said:

    I'm in the same boat here... needing new shorts. In addition to
    steveyo's query, I'm wondering how the thickness of padding affects
    one's comfort. I have one pair that's quite thin and another that
    makes me feel like I've got a phone book between my legs. Oddly enough
    I'm finding the thin padding more comfortable.

    If you can, please compare / contrast the benefits of padding
    thickness. Thanks!

    I agree with the thinner padding, too. The seat, after all, is nothing
    but padding, so the thickness in the shorts is redundant.

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  4. I’ve ridden numerous types of shorts and have found that the 8-panel
    design with a one-piece pad melded inside feels the best to me overall.
    My favorites happen to be Performance and Pearl Izumi. I also have a
    pair of shorts with gel padding inside and they feel pretty good. A
    good deal I think is the Performance Century, good price for good
    performance.

    Remember that there are many factors that will determine your comfort
    level on the seat, the shorts are just the starting point. You will
    also want to focus on your seat height and pitch. And one more thing,
    you are not supposed to wear underwear under your shorts!:p

    Adios!!!!

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  5. But I would be interested in what you all prefer. Please post a link to
    what you like, so I can get some ideas.

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  6. Thanks Steveyo for this thread, I'd like to find some good new shorts.

    My favorite cycle shorts are the Perl izumi shorts with the very thin
    chamois cloth crotch padding * that were discontinued about two years
    ago.* The new version now has thicker less comfortable padding.

    I don't understand the rules for choosing the 6, 8 or whatever number
    of panels.

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  7. I like the thinner padding that covers the ridges of the unicycle
    saddle. Other than that good fit is important. If shorts are just a
    bit too loose, rough downhill MUni becomes challenging on a whole other
    level.

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  8. pearl izummi

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  9. I'm also in the boat of looking for some new shorts. My old shorts are
    wearing out.

    The difficulty is that cycling shorts now are all using some flavor of
    technical fabric pad instead of the traditional chamois-like pad. I
    have a few shorts with the new style pads. They work just fine for
    bicycling, but don't work as well for unicycling. If you try to lather
    up with Chamois Butt'r or something similar the pad just sucks it up
    like a sponge. After 20 Coker miles you start to really feel that
    you're sitting on fabric instead of something similar to a chamois.

    I've been looking around and the only place I've found that still sells
    a chamois pad is 'Kucharik' (http://tinyurl.com/2wp22f). Looks like
    either their Ultra Suede Pad or their Real Chamois Pad might be the
    ticket. I haven't tried them yet. I need to make a decision and give
    them a try.

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  10. Wow, we are not talking the blue light special here. Anyway, it would be
    cool to read reasons for these selections, and links if possible. There
    was several versions of these shorts listed on the first site I found.

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  11. Yes, the good Pearl Izumi shorts are in the $70 to $120 range. Worth it
    for serious cyclists.

    But their new pad designs are hit or miss for unicyclists. Some
    unicyclists like the new pads while others don't. You end up gambling
    $70 to $120 on shorts that may not work for you on the unicycle.
    Course if you also bicycle you can use the shorts for the bicycle
    (which is what I am using my new style Pearl Izumi shorts for).

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  12. Only 36 $, or 6 times what I wear now, a lot better then 90$.
    I am interested in why people like these different shorts. Links are
    important!
    Is chamois machine wash? I am familiar with leather motorcycle gear.
    It sounds grungy, but we just never wash our leathers. For tight
    fitting sweaty uni shorts, I doubt that is a plan.

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  13. Ah the search for the perfect unicycling short!

    The most important thing for me is getting shorts where the padding
    extends up far enough in front. A wrongly positioned seam makes a ride
    extremely painful. I have to say that in most cycle shorts there is not
    enough padding.

    My favourite so far are Pearl Izumi - with the chamois. I have a couple
    of other Pearl Izumi shorts that I bought over the Internet thinking
    that they would be like my chamois ones and they had kind of ridged
    padding (I think they called it 3D). I don't know how that's supposed
    to be comfortable.

    Also I've just brought a pair made by DeMarche (or something like that)
    and they have something they call elasticated padding, which is a bit
    gel like but comfortable.

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  14. Cycling shorts are a gentle cycle wash item. Hand washing is better.
    You should use soap that doesn't have fancy perfumes or softeners or
    other additives. Simple basic washing soap. Then rinse clean so there
    is no soap residue.

    With the real chamois you have to treat it with chamois cream to keep
    it soft and keep it comfortable. The artificial chamois-like pads also
    need chamois cream to keep them soft, but the real chamois pads need it
    even more. Kucharik also sells a chamois cream.

    So the chamois becomes a maintenance item. With proper care it will
    last a long time.

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  15. The more I think about it, the better my baggy cotton shorts seem.
    Simple, and I can wash a dozen pairs at once and be done with it,
    without filling the machine with 1000$ of shorts. I am still open to
    comments, yet, as a fat guy in sweat city, expensive, high maintenance
    shorts , don't seem like what I need. I sweat lots, and don't want to
    do laundry every day. Yet I bet I am ignorant, why are these shorts
    better ?

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  16. I like dhb Earnley shorts. 8-panel, very comfortable and not too
    expensive. They've got a nylon-type pad like John mentioned, but I
    don't find that a problem - I use a chafe stick that you apply to the
    skin like a deodorant stick rather than the liquid butt butter type
    stuff that soaks into the pad.

    I wouldn't use expensive shorts on a unicycle because it ruins them,
    but I like the Earnleys so much I use nothing else now, even on the
    bike. I just keep the newest pair for bike only, then put them into
    unicycle use when I get a new pair for biking. They don't last a huge
    amount of time, but for the price I reckon they're really good - I've
    got four pairs and I reckon I replace the oldest pair about once every
    six to nine months (probably averaging 120-150 miles a week of combined
    bike and unicycle).

    Rob

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  17. I've long been a proponent of the 'bib' style shorts.
    I ride almost exclusively when playing UniHoki and find that the
    shoulder straps stops the shorts from sagging down and occasionally
    bunching in the crotch. A problem I've have with regular cycling shorts
    in the past.

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  18. feel the light said:

    The more I think about it, the better my baggy cotton shorts seem.
    Simple, and I can wash a dozen pairs at once and be done with it,
    without filling the machine with 1000$ of shorts. I am still open to
    comments, yet, as a fat guy in sweat city, expensive, high maintenance
    shorts , don't seem like what I need. I sweat lots, and don't want to
    do laundry every day. Yet I bet I am ignorant, why are these shorts
    better ?

    For one, they don't soak up your sweat like a sponge. But really, if
    you're comfortable with plain cotton shorts, there's no reason to
    change. I go for shorter more casual rides with non-cycling
    shorts/pants all the time. It's really only the MUni and longer
    distance rides that I find that padded shorts are really helpful.

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  19. feel the light said:

    The more I think about it, the better my baggy cotton shorts seem.
    Simple, and I can wash a dozen pairs at once and be done with it,
    without filling the machine with 1000$ of shorts. I am still open to
    comments, yet, as a fat guy in sweat city, expensive, high maintenance
    shorts , don't seem like what I need. I sweat lots, and don't want to
    do laundry every day. Yet I bet I am ignorant, why are these shorts
    better ?

    Cycling shorts have developed the way they have because it is more
    comfortable to have a pad in the shorts than not. If the whole pad
    idea didn't work then cyclists would just go with normal spandex
    running shorts with no pad.

    The pad helps eliminate pressure points and friction and seams in the
    wrong places.

    The tight spandex style fabric helps eliminate rubbing and also wicks
    away moisture. Cotton just sucks up moisture and keeps that moisture
    close to your skin. The spandex style shorts and polyester jerseys
    wick away the moisture so you stay dryer and more comfortable. The
    difference between riding hard (where you are sweating a lot) while
    wearing spandex and polyester cycling clothing vs. cotton shorts and a
    cotton T-shirt is amazing.

    That said, there are some cycling shorts that have a pad that just
    doesn't work well for unicycling even though it may work great (and get
    great reviews) for bicycling. You just have to try different ones and
    see what ends up working best for you.

    Try a $30 - $40 pair of cycling shorts (like the Kucharik shorts) and
    see how you like them. It'll give you and idea what cycling shorts are
    about. Chamois cream like Chamois Butt'r will also help.

    For washing I just hand wash them in the sink right after I'm done with
    my shower after a ride. Hand wash, rinse, ring out, then hang up in
    the shower stall to dry. They'll be dry and ready for riding again in
    a day or two (depending on your local humidity).

    Cycling shorts also need to fit snugly. Don't buy a size that is too
    big. They're also worn with no underwears underneath. You can always
    wear baggy shorts over the top if you don't like the tight spandex
    look.

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  20. Closest bike shop to me has [censored] all for cycling shorts...

    Only stuff in the $60+ range... and they're all extremely short, short
    enough for my junk to hang out anyways... what the hell?

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