Cyclist killed in Adelaide

Tony said:

Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.

That sort of thing totally pisses me off. It seems to happen quite often
up here. Main Roads seems to think that bicycle lanes are some sort of
spare road space for whatever they want. Someone should write to the
papers or get BISA or another group to issue a media release about it.

Peter
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Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

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Quoted message said:

Tony said:

Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.

That sort of thing totally pisses me off. It seems to happen quite often
up here. Main Roads seems to think that bicycle lanes are some sort of
spare road space for whatever they want. Someone should write to the
papers or get BISA or another group to issue a media release about it.

Peter
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Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Ditto. In Melbourne I often find that marked or off road bike paths are
turned into spaces for utility vehicles. I accept that often there is a need
to work on or around a bike path, but I wish that road authorities would be
more considerate about the danger this creates for cyclists.

Henry.

Tony said:

On the way home from work tonight, noticed police and ambulance in attendance under the (infamous) Bakewell bridge at Mile End and all were crowded around the front of a semi trailer.
Just saw on the ABC news that there was a cyclist under the semi - roadie,
poor guy.

It's an area that I've been avoiding on my bike lately as there are some
major roadworks going on, and Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.

Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.

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Police plea for care as four die in road crashes
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By Police Reporter MATT WILLIAMS
07jul05
FOUR people died in separate crashes yesterday within seven hours in a horror day on the state's roads.

Responding to the carnage, police have pleaded with drivers to take care on the roads

In the first crash, a man died when the truck he was driving rolled at Bow Hill, about 28km east of Mannum.

The truck was loaded with sand and rolled near the corner of Morrell and Riverview roads about 2.15pm.

An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonne semi-trailer collided at Mile End. The accident happened under the Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce.

Both the cyclist and the truck had been travelling west along East Tce.

Police last night were trying to identify the cyclist, who was described as male, aged in his twenties or thirties.

He was riding a black and silver Avanti road bike and was wearing an orange top. He is described as having dark hair. The driver of the semi-trailer was treated for shock at the scene.

The third fatal crash happened just before 4pm, when a car rolled at Bowmans, 10km east of Port Wakefield, killing a 52-year-old man from Port Wakefield.

Last night, a driver died instantly in a single car rollover at Smoky Bay on Eyre Peninsula about 9.15pm.

A police spokesman said it was "most important that drivers remain vigilant on the roads at all times". "People need to drive to the traffic and weather conditions and they need to constantly be aware of their surroundings," he said. The deaths lifted the state's road toll to 79, compared to 73 at the same time last year.

hemyd said:

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Quoted message said:

Tony said:

Transport SA, in their wisdom, have placed
bollards and signage in the bike lane, making it all but unusable.

That sort of thing totally pisses me off. It seems to happen quite often
up here. Main Roads seems to think that bicycle lanes are some sort of
spare road space for whatever they want. Someone should write to the
papers or get BISA or another group to issue a media release about it.

Peter
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Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Ditto. In Melbourne I often find that marked or off road bike paths are
turned into spaces for utility vehicles. I accept that often there is a need
to work on or around a bike path, but I wish that road authorities would be
more considerate about the danger this creates for cyclists.

Henry.

Off-road paths are really fair game. A couple of years ago returning
from Warburton on the rail-trail, I encountered a large road making
machine parked on the trail such that it completely blocked access to
all users. I sent photos and a letter of complaint to the owner of the
machine, with copies to BV and VicRoads. The answer from the company
was in essence that they had to park it somewhere and they couldn't park
it where it hindered the traffic. So there you have it. We are not
considered to be traffic unless we are in a motorised tin box.

Alan.

Alan Hutchison said:

Off-road paths are really fair game. A couple of years ago returning
from Warburton on the rail-trail, I encountered a large road making
machine parked on the trail such that it completely blocked access to
all users. I sent photos and a letter of complaint to the owner of the
machine, with copies to BV and VicRoads. The answer from the company
was in essence that they had to park it somewhere and they couldn't park
it where it hindered the traffic. So there you have it. We are not
considered to be traffic unless we are in a motorised tin box.

Alan.

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with an interesting comment from a local

PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the truckdriver?

hemyd said:

Ditto. In Melbourne I often find that marked or off road bike paths are
turned into spaces for utility vehicles. I accept that often there is a need
to work on or around a bike path, but I wish that road authorities would be
more considerate about the danger this creates for cyclists.

Henry.

i actually lodged a complaint with vicroads over this practice of them placing signage and things taking up the entire left lane when unnecessary (Church St Kew most recently) yesterday

i might write back and site this scenario

flyingdutch said:

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Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a shared
ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!

Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres

Quoted message said:

with an interesting comment from a local

PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the
truckdriver?

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Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Peter McCallum said:

flyingdutch said:

http://boroondarabug.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06
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Quoted message said:

Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a shared
ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!

Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres

In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
of TWO tyres.

Marty

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flyingdutch said:

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Oh Look! i dont need to put it in the PARKING LANE. I would have to walk
a further 2 metres! Thankfully, someone has conveniently provided a

shared

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ped/bike path for me to park my 4WD in!$@#!!!

Looks like someone wants to come back to a car with four flat tyres

In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
of TWO tyres.

Slightly offtopic now, but if you've got a phone that will take photos, or a
digital camera handy, take a pic (don't bother hiding the numberplate) &
submit it to www.ratemyparking.net - I've found a note on the windscreen
advising the parker that their pic will be submitted is very satisfying.
The site is ran by a friend of mine, has had some classic parks submitted so
far...

-Nick

flyingdutch said:

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with an interesting comment from a local

PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the
truckdriver?

Yes it was. The driver of the truck which left the road and killed my
wife was convicted of dangerous driving and received a suspended
sentence of three months jail, a $1000 fine and eighteen months loss of
licence.

The following is verbatim from the Diamond Valley Leader of June 15th, 2005:

But magistrate Roger Franich said Orwin's boss at R&T Tree Services,
Robert Knott, was "morally culpable" for ordering his employee to drive
back to the Research base when he telephoned to complain of brake failure.

"It appears to me in this matter, which ended in tragedy, that there
were a number of factors which at least showed moral culpability in his
employer Robert Knott, if not a responsibility at law. Mr Orwin is at
the end of that chain," Mr Franich said. End of quote.

I have since been advised that the Victorian Workcover Authority is
mounting a prosecution case as requested by the magistrate in his pre
sentencing summing up. Right now I think the law is shining a bright
light on those responsible and in the end, anyone that's interested will
know without doubt what happened and who did it.

Alan.

Alan Hutchison said:

Yes it was. The driver of the truck which left the road and killed my
wife was convicted of dangerous driving and received a suspended
sentence of three months jail, a $1000 fine and eighteen months loss of
licence.

The following is verbatim from the Diamond Valley Leader of June 15th, 2005:

But magistrate Roger Franich said Orwin's boss at R&T Tree Services,
Robert Knott, was "morally culpable" for ordering his employee to drive
back to the Research base when he telephoned to complain of brake failure.

"It appears to me in this matter, which ended in tragedy, that there
were a number of factors which at least showed moral culpability in his
employer Robert Knott, if not a responsibility at law. Mr Orwin is at
the end of that chain," Mr Franich said. End of quote.

I have since been advised that the Victorian Workcover Authority is
mounting a prosecution case as requested by the magistrate in his pre
sentencing summing up. Right now I think the law is shining a bright
light on those responsible and in the end, anyone that's interested will
know without doubt what happened and who did it.

Alan.

little consolation but good for you. Someone should be held culpable for this. Someone should 'lose' their life for you having lost your wife

thinkin of you

you up for a BR ride any given Sunday?

Quoted message said:

In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught parking
in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory letting down
of TWO tyres.

Marty

Still do at Morley Gonnorhea 'Galleria'
two matches, two valve caps, tssshhhhhhhhhh <stereo>

cfsmtb said:

Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.

An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonne semi-trailer collided at Mile End. The accident happened under the Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce.

Collided???

How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide??

On 07/07/05 at 15:04:32 Alan Hutchison somehow managed to type:

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flyingdutch said:

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with an interesting comment from a local

PS Alan. was it you who was awaiting the courtcase regarding the
truckdriver?

Yes it was. The driver of the truck which left the road and killed
my wife was convicted of dangerous driving and received a suspended
sentence of three months jail, a $1000 fine and eighteen months loss
of licence.

OK IF I've understood everything in this post the driver was KNOWINGLY
driving a truck with dodgy brakes with loss of life as the end result.
For that he - subject to good behaviour - ONLY forks over $1000 and
does his licence for 18 months.

THE PRESSURE FROM HIS BOSS IS IRRELEVANT. He KNOWINGLY drove a truck
with dodgy brakes. END OF STORY.

If his boss had sacked him for doing the RIGHT thing and refusing to
drive the truck I'd expect even a mug bush lawyer would've been able to
win him more than decent compensation. If he'd made a quick call to the
Vic. Workcover Auth or the local police he'd have NOTHING to worry
about. Instead he KNOWINGLY drove a truck with dodgy brakes with tragic
results.

Question. Who here would ride a bike they knew had dodgy brakes in
traffic ??

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Humbug

HUMBUG wrote:
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Question. Who here would ride a bike they knew had dodgy brakes in
traffic ??

You don't want to start that one - there are enough people around that
at least some of them ride fixed gear bikes on the rode with no brakes.
You will get all sorts of religious wars...

Brian (has 2 brakes on his fixed gear)

byron27 said:

Collided???

How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide??

via journalistic [censored]

HUMBUG said:

OK IF I've understood everything in this post the driver was KNOWINGLY
driving a truck with dodgy brakes with loss of life as the end result.
For that he - subject to good behaviour - ONLY forks over $1000 and
does his licence for 18 months.

THE PRESSURE FROM HIS BOSS IS IRRELEVANT. He KNOWINGLY drove a truck
with dodgy brakes. END OF STORY.

If his boss had sacked him for doing the RIGHT thing and refusing to
drive the truck I'd expect even a mug bush lawyer would've been able to
win him more than decent compensation. If he'd made a quick call to the
Vic. Workcover Auth or the local police he'd have NOTHING to worry
about. Instead he KNOWINGLY drove a truck with dodgy brakes with tragic
results.

Question. Who here would ride a bike they knew had dodgy brakes in
traffic ??

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Humbug

Who would drive a dodgy vehicle because his boss pressured him to do so - probably someone who worked for an employer who was not subject to the unfair dismissal legislation. And in the coming months, that is going to be more poor buggers who want to keep their jobs.

Steve(oops, started to lean a bit to the left there)A

Gumby said:

Quoted message said:

In the good old days when I used to ride motorbikes, cars caught
parking in a MOTORCYCLES ONLY parking bay would get the mandatory
letting down of TWO tyres.

Marty

Still do at Morley Gonnorhea 'Galleria'
two matches, two valve caps, tssshhhhhhhhhh <stereo>

I used to ride with a group of people that gathered in the street next
to Hay St (which is now a mall) and on Satuday nights we'd go down to
Freo and then up to Scarborough.

Marty

byron27 said:

cfsmtb said:

Today, please consider a moment of quiet reflection.

An hour later, a male cyclist was killed when he and a 42-tonne
semi-trailer *collided* at Mile End. The accident happened under the
Bakewell Bridge at the corner of Henley Beach Rd and East Tce.

Collided???

How does a bike and 42 tonne semi-trailer collide??

Inelastically?

Seriously though, they were unable to identify him at the scene. It may
sound morbid, but I always carry my licence and blood/organ donor card
in my jersey pocket just in case. (As well as a phone, credit card and
some cash...)

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BrettS