I don't subscribe to posting reports on cyclists deaths as a matter of course, but felt that this one needs mentioning...
A boxing champ died when he was thrown from his bicycle through the rear windscreen of a parked Mercedes Vaneo, as he turned to talk to a friend. His friend, who administered first aid at the scene of the accident, reported that he hadn't seen the vehicle. It was reported that he wasn't wearing a helmet but his mother said today that he died from neck injuries. He was 14 and the accident occured at 1235hrs yesterday. Apparently he had had his bike stolen previously and his mother is quoted as saying she only bought him the new one three weeks ago....
I appreciate this is a terrible tragedy and we should perhaps give a minutes silence and thoughts and condolences with the lads family...but one has to wonder if this is a case for proof of boxing causing brain damage in the young ??...
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...but one has to wonder if this is a case for proof of boxing causing brain damage in the young ??...
A not unknown accident amongst non-boxers so almost certainly unrelated to his boxing.
I met a guy last year who had cycled into a parked Merc, head down going for it. This was many years ago when the Merc badge was essentially a circular knife mounted on the bonnet. He had a very large scar on his thigh and he said that at the time the Merc owner was frantic about the amount of blood on his car.
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I met a guy last year who had cycled into a parked Merc, head down going for it. This was many years ago when the Merc badge was essentially a circular knife mounted on the bonnet. He had a very large scar on his thigh and he said that at the time the Merc owner was frantic about the amount of blood on his car.
I've done it twice when I was a lad. First time into the back of a parked car which bent my forks back. Local blacksmith repaired them and put a strengthening tube down the inside of the steerer "just to be safe". Doh - quill stem no longer went inside and the tube was welded in and not removable without destroying the steerer. One proud possession bike on the scrap heap.
Second time the forks survived but it was into the back of a caravan being loaded with pottery for an exhibition. Apparently the impact came very close to sending a lot of expensive pottery floorwards.
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I don't subscribe to posting reports on cyclists deaths as a matter of course, but felt that this one needs mentioning...
A boxing champ died when he was thrown from his bicycle through the rear windscreen of a parked Mercedes Vaneo, as he turned to talk to a friend. His friend, who administered first aid at the scene of the accident, reported that he hadn't seen the vehicle.....
one has to wonder if this is a case for proof of boxing causing brain damage in the young ??...
With the caveat that it was a Vauxhall Nova rather than a Merc Ugleo, I have done precisely this through not looking where I was going, and have never boxed in my life...
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...but one has to wonder if this is a case for proof of boxing causing brain damage in the young ??...
A not unknown accident amongst non-boxers so almost certainly unrelated to his boxing.
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Ah, but are you certain they aren't boxers or was that fact just omitted from previous reports ???...
I know two cyclists who have crashed into the rear of stationary vehicles. One was tragically seriously injured, after going into the back of a bus ,was hospitalised for months, medically retired, and last time I saw him still obviously not fully recovered. There other guy hit the back of a car at a set of temp lights he wasn,t expecting to be there. Went over the handlebars, through the windscreen and ended up between the driver and passenger. Other than minor cuts/bruises he was OK. For what its worth I believe both wore helmets. The second guy is very pro- helmet. I ride an MTB,a tourer, and a hybrid, all with a fairly similiar upright position and I can,t conceive I,ll ever hit the back of a parked vehicle. Have any of the roadies on the group got opinions on the risk involved in the head down crouch position used by some road cyclists. Iain C
To be honest the comment re boxing was a little facetious <s?>, I admit......I was just at a loss as to how one doesn't see a bloody great cage and grasping at straws. I mean c'mon guys. Everyone knows how potentially dangerous it is out there with the moving stuff, never mind the stationary. Rule no.1 has to be Stay Alert..... Having said that, I had a friend in the late 70's who rode his motorbike over a parked car. The owner got out and started letting him know just how badly he'd scratched the car while he was lying in a heap on the floor....couldn't work out how he'd managed that either.. Dave.
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To be honest the comment re boxing was a little facetious <s?>, I admit......I was just at a loss as to how one doesn't see a bloody great cage and grasping at straws. I mean c'mon guys. Everyone knows how potentially dangerous it is out there with the moving stuff, never mind
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stationary. Rule no.1 has to be Stay Alert..... Having said that, I had a friend in the late 70's who rode his motorbike over a parked car. The owner got out and started letting him know just how badly he'd scratched the car while he was lying in a heap on the floor....couldn't work out how he'd managed that either.. Dave.
I agree, how the hell do you hit a stationary car? Side swiped, opened door, all understandable, but still ridiculous. Puncture and a face plant is a real risk.
If someone moaned about their car and I was a bodybuilder/boxer/whatever, I'd hit them.
I agree, how the hell do you hit a stationary car? Side swiped, opened door, all understandable, but still ridiculous. Puncture and a face plant is a real risk.
Easy. Just keep riding until your bike tries to occupy the same three-dimensional co-ordinates as the car. It helps, though, not to be looking where one is going - in my case I had my head down to avoid ingesting the evening hatch of flies coming up from the river.
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I agree, how the hell do you hit a stationary car? Side swiped, opened door, all understandable, but still ridiculous. Puncture and a face plant is a real risk.
Easy. Just keep riding until your bike tries to occupy the same three-dimensional co-ordinates as the car. It helps, though, not to be looking where one is going - in my case I had my head down to avoid ingesting the evening hatch of flies coming up from the river.
They're low on calories ... and strangely more-ish ...
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I don't subscribe to posting reports on cyclists deaths as a matter of course, but felt that this one needs mentioning...
A boxing champ died when he was thrown from his bicycle through the rear windscreen of a parked Mercedes Vaneo, as he turned to talk to a friend. His friend, who administered first aid at the scene of the accident, reported that he hadn't seen the vehicle. It was reported that he wasn't wearing a helmet but his mother said today that he died from neck
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Well, that's it then. If he'd been wearing a helmet it would have prevented the neck injuries and saved his life. You read it all the time in the newspapaers.
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I agree, how the hell do you hit a stationary car? Side swiped, opened door, all understandable, but still ridiculous. Puncture and a face plant is a real risk.
Easy. Just keep riding until your bike tries to occupy the same three-dimensional co-ordinates as the car. It helps, though, not to be looking where one is going - in my case I had my head down to avoid ingesting the evening hatch of flies coming up from the river.
They're low on calories ... and strangely more-ish ...
OTOH once you've swallowed a fly you have to swallow a spider and so on until you end up swallowing a horse which kills you of course :-)
Tony
-- "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve immortality through not dying." Woody Allen
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> I agree, how the hell do you hit a stationary car? Side swiped, opened door, all > understandable, but still ridiculous. Puncture and a face plant is a real risk.
Easy. Just keep riding until your bike tries to occupy the same three-dimensional co-ordinates as the car. It helps, though, not to be looking where one is going - in my case I had my head down to avoid ingesting the evening hatch of flies coming up from the river.
They're low on calories ... and strangely more-ish ...
OTOH once you've swallowed a fly you have to swallow a spider and so on until you end up swallowing a horse which kills you of course :-)
Unless you're French...
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Tony
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