Cyclo-Cross World Cup #3 - CDM - Pijnacker, Netherlands, November 11, 2007



In article <[email protected]>,
"Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Pijnacker,
> +Netherlands&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&ll=52.033089,4.403672&spn=0.008792,0.018239&z=16
>
>
>
> "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
> >
> > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Pijnacke
> > r,+Netherlands&ie=UTF8&ll=52.032865,4.404273&spn=0.008792,0.018239&t=k&z=16&
> > om=1
> >
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/cross/2007/nov07/worldcup3_07/?id=map
> >
> > Zand = Sand
> >
> > Schelpenzand = Sand with shells and grit
> >
> > Brug = Bridge
> >
> > Final Results: Jonathan Page 16th.

Looks to me like there's a misunderstanding. The sections marked sand on
the parcours appear on the gmap as a series of linear paths. That is,
they're trails.

I think this is, at worst, packed sand, but definitely some sort of
trail-worthy surface. The "schelpenzand" presumably rides more like what
we would think of as a sand pit.

The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
which might be a sandy beach.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Pijnacker,
> +Netherlands&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&ll=52.033089,4.403672&spn=0.008792,0.018239&z=16
>
>
>
> "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
> >
> > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Pijnacke
> > r,+Netherlands&ie=UTF8&ll=52.032865,4.404273&spn=0.008792,0.018239&t=k&z=16&
> > om=1
> >
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/cross/2007/nov07/worldcup3_07/?id=map
> >
> > Zand = Sand
> >
> > Schelpenzand = Sand with shells and grit
> >
> > Brug = Bridge
> >
> > Final Results: Jonathan Page 16th.

Looks to me like there's a misunderstanding. The sections marked sand on
the parcours appear on the gmap as a series of linear paths. That is,
they're trails.

I think this is, at worst, packed sand, but definitely some sort of
trail-worthy surface. The "schelpenzand" presumably rides more like what
we would think of as a sand pit.

The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
which might be a sandy beach.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Pijnacker,
> +Netherlands&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&ll=52.033089,4.403672&spn=0.008792,0.018239&z=16
>
>
>
> "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
> >
> > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Pijnacke
> > r,+Netherlands&ie=UTF8&ll=52.032865,4.404273&spn=0.008792,0.018239&t=k&z=16&
> > om=1
> >
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/cross/2007/nov07/worldcup3_07/?id=map
> >
> > Zand = Sand
> >
> > Schelpenzand = Sand with shells and grit
> >
> > Brug = Bridge
> >
> > Final Results: Jonathan Page 16th.

Looks to me like there's a misunderstanding. The sections marked sand on
the parcours appear on the gmap as a series of linear paths. That is,
they're trails.

I think this is, at worst, packed sand, but definitely some sort of
trail-worthy surface. The "schelpenzand" presumably rides more like what
we would think of as a sand pit.

The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
which might be a sandy beach.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
 
Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
>
> The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
> which might be a sandy beach.

It is, and the other sand sections are not very prominent in my
recollection. Also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOKCX_ZXas


--
E. Dronkert
 
Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
>
> The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
> which might be a sandy beach.

It is, and the other sand sections are not very prominent in my
recollection. Also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOKCX_ZXas


--
E. Dronkert
 
Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
>
> The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
> which might be a sandy beach.

It is, and the other sand sections are not very prominent in my
recollection. Also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOKCX_ZXas


--
E. Dronkert
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> > "Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
> >
> > The only exception I can see is the "Zand" section right on the shore,
> > which might be a sandy beach.
>
> It is, and the other sand sections are not very prominent in my
> recollection. Also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOKCX_ZXas

Interesting. The sandy beach doesn't look that problematic, though that
may be world-class CXers making some pretty messy terrain look easy.

There were some weird places they were dismounting: two guys for that
little dip (1:39), presumably because it was too muddy at the bottom to
ride out, and at 3:27, dismounting for a tight turn on flat ground (!).

"Naturlich, Sven Nys..."

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
 
From last year....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOKCX_ZXas

This clip shows the long ZAND section.



"Rex Crater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Good grief!!! Check out the long "zand" section.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...,4.404273&spn=0.008792,0.018239&t=k&z=16&om=1
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/cross/2007/nov07/worldcup3_07/?id=map
>
> Zand = Sand
>
> Schelpenzand = Sand with shells and grit
>
> Brug = Bridge
>
> Final Results: Jonathan Page 16th.
>
>
>
 
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