Dead bikes at train stations

Simon L said:

It's getting increasingly hard to find room for my bike at Bristol TM.
There are plenty of bikes I see week after week on flat tires, covered
in bird poo, missing vital parts (specifically wheels).

Do the station operators have a strategy for dealing with this? (Guess
this post ought to go to uk.railway).

Some of them bikes deserve better resting places.

You could propose to the station manager that you could have them
removed for recycling. This would prettify the scene, release
facilities for other cyclists and maybe provide a cheap bike for
someone in need.

David Lloyd (@ work)

On 19 Sep 2006 07:32:39 -0700 someone who may be "Simon L"
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Quoted message said:

It's getting increasingly hard to find room for my bike at Bristol TM.
There are plenty of bikes I see week after week on flat tires, covered
in bird poo, missing vital parts (specifically wheels).

Do the station operators have a strategy for dealing with this? (Guess
this post ought to go to uk.railway).

A sensible operator will have an arrangement with a suitable
organisation to remove abandoned bikes and find a suitable use for
them. Bristol Temple Meads is not large enough to be run by Network
Rail, so I assume you need to speak to Last. Why don't you ask them
and let us know the result? Use your initiative to navigate from
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/ to suitable places.

uk.railway added.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

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Simon L said:

It's getting increasingly hard to find room for my bike at Bristol TM.
There are plenty of bikes I see week after week on flat tires, covered
in bird poo, missing vital parts (specifically wheels).

Do the station operators have a strategy for dealing with this? (Guess
this post ought to go to uk.railway).

Some of them bikes deserve better resting places.

In a similar vein, does anyone know what bit of my local council is
likely to be responsible for that sort of thing, and what their policy
is likely to be? (I just don't have the energy to ask them ATM.)

Rob Morley said:

In a similar vein, does anyone know what bit of my local council is
likely to be responsible for that sort of thing, and what their policy
is likely to be? (I just don't have the energy to ask them ATM.)

If it's a station then it's likely to be Network Rail property and I
doubt they have powers to do anything unless it's a health/safety
hazard. They might take an interest, particularly if they're trying to
encourage cycling and they could also have a word with NR/First about
it. The leisure/tourism/recreation, transport/highways or
waste/recyling departments may be a good place to start.

If there's a reason why nothing is done to remove them (e.g. lack of
recyling facilities) then the local council may be able to point them
in the direction of someone who could help.

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naked_draughtsman said:

Rob Morley said:

In a similar vein, does anyone know what bit of my local council is
likely to be responsible for that sort of thing, and what their policy
is likely to be? (I just don't have the energy to ask them ATM.)

If it's a station then it's likely to be Network Rail property and I
doubt they have powers to do anything

I should have added "in the public cycle racks dotted around the town
centre".

Simon L said:

It's getting increasingly hard to find room for my bike at Bristol TM.
There are plenty of bikes I see week after week on flat tires, covered
in bird poo, missing vital parts (specifically wheels).

Do the station operators have a strategy for dealing with this? (Guess
this post ought to go to uk.railway).

Some of them bikes deserve better resting places.

I think the station can do what they like. My wife used to leave her
bike at Oxford train station (smaller than TM) and every now and again
there would be a bike cull. Notices would be attached to the bikes and
if they (the notices)hadn't been removed/replied to within, say, 4 weeks
then the bikes were removed.

Maybe you could use Oxford as an example. There's a lot of bikes at
Oxford train station.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:37:05 +0100 someone who may be Rob Morley
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

In a similar vein, does anyone know what bit of my local council is
likely to be responsible for that sort of thing, and what their policy
is likely to be? (I just don't have the energy to ask them ATM.)

Councils are different to each other in a number of ways. You
haven't said which country you are talking about so hazarding a
guess is even more difficult.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

David Hansen said:

A sensible operator will have an arrangement with a suitable
organisation to remove abandoned bikes and find a suitable use for
them. Bristol Temple Meads is not large enough to be run by Network
Rail, so I assume you need to speak to Last.

This <http://www.londontravelwatch.org.uk/get_document.php?id=488> may
be helpful.

Although published by London Transport Users Committee, it is
appropriate nationally. It describes who is responsible for rubbish at
stations, how to enforce clearance, and gives a sample letter.

I would assume that abandoned cycles constitute litter just as much as
abandoned drink cans and crisp packets do.

PhilD

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Rob Horton said:

I think the station can do what they like. My wife used to leave her
bike at Oxford train station (smaller than TM) and every now and again
there would be a bike cull. Notices would be attached to the bikes and
if they (the notices)hadn't been removed/replied to within, say, 4 weeks
then the bikes were removed.

There's an old rusting Moulton that has been at Basingstoke for over five
years.

John B

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John B said:

Rob Horton said:

I think the station can do what they like. My wife used to leave her
bike at Oxford train station (smaller than TM) and every now and again
there would be a bike cull. Notices would be attached to the bikes and
if they (the notices)hadn't been removed/replied to within, say, 4 weeks
then the bikes were removed.

There's an old rusting Moulton that has been at Basingstoke for over five
years.

Maybe it's art :-)

Quoted message said:

Do the station operators have a strategy for dealing with this? (Guess
this post ought to go to uk.railway).

Someone's read my thoughts (or this NG).

This morning at Bristol TM a couple of chaps (in Rail Uniform) stapled
tags around all the bikes suggesting that the bikes would be removed in
a month if the tags are still there.

:-)

Simon L said:

Quoted message said:

Do the station operators have a strategy for dealing with this? (Guess
this post ought to go to uk.railway).

Someone's read my thoughts (or this NG).

This morning at Bristol TM a couple of chaps (in Rail Uniform) stapled
tags around all the bikes suggesting that the bikes would be removed in
a month if the tags are still there.

:-)

Simon,

Where do they go?

I recycle bikes for a couple of organisations and would gladly take them off've their hands (if the alternative is that they're just sending them to the scrappers).

Cheers,

Steve

Quoted message said:

Where do they go?

I recycle bikes for a couple of organisations and would gladly take
them off've their hands (if the alternative is that they're just
sending them to the scrappers).

I'll have to ask - the tag makes no mention of a destination.

It says 'it has become time to clear old and abandoned bikes to make
room for new bikes' - Anyone still riding a 70s Raleigh watch out!

Simon L said:

Quoted message said:

Where do they go?

I recycle bikes for a couple of organisations and would gladly take
them off've their hands (if the alternative is that they're just
sending them to the scrappers).

I'll have to ask - the tag makes no mention of a destination.

It says 'it has become time to clear old and abandoned bikes to make
room for new bikes' - Anyone still riding a 70s Raleigh watch out!

Ive just seen similar notices fixed to bikes on Southampton station.
They say the bikes will be taken to lost property.

It seems a purge is underway, although teh rusting Moulton at
Basingstoke which has been there at least five years hasn't been
labelled.

John B

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:57:08 +1000 someone who may be wheelist
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This morning at Bristol TM a couple of chaps (in Rail Uniform) stapled
tags around all the bikes suggesting that the bikes would be removed
in a month if the tags are still there.

Where do they go?

Depends on the station.

Why not ask?

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

John B said:

It seems a purge is underway, although the rusting Moulton at
Basingstoke which has been there at least five years hasn't been
labelled.

John B

It's definitely art then.

Rob Morley said:

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John B said:

There's an old rusting Moulton that has been at Basingstoke for over five
years.

Maybe it's art :-)

Make your own mind up...

http://www.velotree.co.uk/moultonartatbasi.html

John B

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Rob Morley said:

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John B said:

There's an old rusting Moulton that has been at Basingstoke for over
five
years.

Maybe it's art :-)

Make your own mind up...

http://www.velotree.co.uk/moultonartatbasi.html

John B

Obviously the owner's train has been delayed...