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See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust? Not many Sufis left in Iran, I
suppose to exert a moderating influence.

Looks like it's going to be post-modern Crusader Time , but with nukes.

B. Lafferty said:

"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust?

I saw Ernst Zundel's house burnt down though

Singing:
Ain't no business like Shoa Business like no business I know..............

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"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust?

Davey saw Ernst Zundel's house burnt down though

Singin'
Ain't no business like Shoa Business like no business I know..........

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"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust? Not many Sufis left in Iran, I
suppose to exert a moderating influence.

Looks like it's going to be post-modern Crusader Time , but with nukes.

Yep, the barbarians are at the gates and headed to liberate their
brothers in Europe.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060204/ts_afp/europeislammediasyria_060204212406
Keep this in mind also:
http://christianactionforisrael.org/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html
In 1951, a close relative of the Mufti named Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa
el-Husseini matriculated to the University of Cairo. The student
decided to conceal his true identity and enlisted as "Yasser Arafat."
Bill C

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B. Lafferty said:

"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of
the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust? Not many Sufis left in Iran, I
suppose to exert a moderating influence.

Looks like it's going to be post-modern Crusader Time , but with nukes.

Yep, the barbarians are at the gates and headed to liberate their
brothers in Europe.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060204/ts_afp/europeislammediasyria_060204212406

"There is but one God...." I see a nuclear winter in our future.

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Keep this in mind also:
http://christianactionforisrael.org/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html
In 1951, a close relative of the Mufti named Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa
el-Husseini matriculated to the University of Cairo. The student
decided to conceal his true identity and enlisted as "Yasser Arafat."
Bill C

Davey Crockett said:

B. Lafferty said:

"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust?

Davey saw Ernst Zundel's house burnt down though

Singin'
Ain't no business like Shoa Business like no business I know..........

--
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Davey Crockett
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Thanks Davey
Save us from those who use religion for violence and power:

"We should have killed all those who offend the Prophet and instead
here we are, protesting peacefully," Mahmoud Zahar, a top leader of the
militant Islamic group that won the January 25 Palestinian elections,
told Italian daily Il Giornale.

"We should have killed them, we should have required just punishment
for those who respect neither religion nor its holiest symbols," Zahar
was quoted as saying.

Demonstrators marched from Regent's Park mosque, London, to the Danish
embassy, with banners reading: "Kill the one who insults the Prophet"
and "The only way this will be resolved, is if those who are
responsible are turned over so they can be punished by Islamic law, so
that they can be executed".

"Brothers, it's war against Islam ..., grab your swords," says hardline
Saudi cleric Sheikh Badr bin Nader al-Mashari in a voice recording
posted on an Islamist website.

"The infidels must know that the coming days will see a bloody war and
a series of blessed conquests," said the statement.

So should we keep sending them money, food and medicine to buy arms and
ammo, feed and treat their "fighters? The women and children are right
along side them screaming the hate, acting as suicide bombers, serving
as all the logistic functions of a conventional army, which of these
are the "civilian" casualties. In Pakistan that family was hosting
several of the top Al-Qaeda people, feeding them, housing them, and
prviding basic logistics they need to survive. Explain to me again how
they are "civilian" non-combatants when the logistics train has always
been a legitimate target. Just because we don't use women in children
in those roles doesn't mean the rest of the world isn't smart enough to
turn our values against us. As long as they aren't attacked they can do
the job and keep the fighters in the field, and then when they are hit
it's a huge propaganda win because people in the west don't get it.
When human shields, no matter who or what they are, volunteer to
protect enemy fighters they are no different than the armor on a
vehicle and not entitled to any different treatment from that armor.
Period.
Bill C

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"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad
>
>
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Do you recall the Iranian embassy in any county being torched because of
the
Iranian Prez's denials of the Holocaust? Not many Sufis left in Iran, I
suppose to exert a moderating influence.

Looks like it's going to be post-modern Crusader Time , but with nukes.

Yep, the barbarians are at the gates and headed to liberate their
brothers in Europe.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060204/ts_afp/europeislammediasyria_060204212406

"There is but one God...." I see a nuclear winter in our future.

Quoted message said:

Keep this in mind also:
http://christianactionforisrael.org/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html
In 1951, a close relative of the Mufti named Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa
el-Husseini matriculated to the University of Cairo. The student
decided to conceal his true identity and enlisted as "Yasser Arafat."
Bill C

Good background on the current crisis:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1702091,00.html

At this point a group of ultra-conservative Danish imams decided to
take matters into their own hands, setting off on an ambitious tour of
Saudi Arabia and Egypt with a dossier containing the inflammatory
cartoons.

According to Jyllands-Posten, the imams from the organisation Islamisk
Trossamfund took three other mysteriously unsourced drawings as well,
showing Muhammad with the face of a pig; a dog sodomising a praying
Muslim; and Muhammad as a paedophile. "This was pure disinformation. We
never published them," Lund complained. But the campaign worked.
Outwardly the row appeared to be calming down. But in Muslim
cyber-chatrooms, on blogs, and across the internet, outrage was
building fast.

Hey they are winning the propaganda war because it's really easy to
inflame the "controlled" ignorant in the M.E. and the voluntarily
ignorant in the west.
Bill C

Davey Crockett said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

I think Lars Refn has it exactly right.

To bring this back on topic, will Team CSC require armed guards during
the Tour this summer?

J. Spaceman

onexge said:

Davey Crockett said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

I think Lars Refn has it exactly right.

Yes, I liked that one too very much

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Jason Spaceman said:

To bring this back on topic, will Team CSC require armed guards during
the Tour this summer?

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J. Spaceman

Most of the squads already have security systems already

Good post nevertheless

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Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Jason Spaceman said:

Quoted message said:

To bring this back on topic, will Team CSC require armed guards during
the Tour this summer?

Davey Crockett said:

Most of the squads already have security systems already

And a list with all the journalists they don't trust.

Donald Munro said:

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

Jason Spaceman said:

Quoted message said:

To bring this back on topic, will Team CSC require armed guards during
the Tour this summer?

Davey Crockett said:

Most of the squads already have security systems already

And a list with all the journalists they don't trust.

You don't need a list

They are like politicians

You can't trust any of them

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Jason Spaceman said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> To bring this back on topic, will Team CSC require armed guards during
> the Tour this summer?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Davey Crockett said:

Most of the squads already have security systems already

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

And a list with all the journalists they don't trust.

Davey Crockett said:

You don't need a list
They are like politicians
You can't trust any of them

But Riis trusts some even less than others:
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/050611/3/bg05.html

Davey Crockett said:

onexge said:

Davey Crockett said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

I think Lars Refn has it exactly right.

Yes, I liked that one too very much

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Davey Crockett
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Hey Davey He're a bunch that didn't get any protest whatsoever:
http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ArabCartoons.htm
Guess it depends who's taking the hit.
Bill C

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"There is but one God...." I see a nuclear winter in our future.

Gee, that would suck. I hate racing when it is cold out.
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Alex

Davey Crockett said:

See piccies of the GodMongering putative Muhammad

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/public.pages/davey/cartoons/index.html

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Just a little more info:
http://tinyurl.com/bzmum

A manifesto for murder
By Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, DANIEL JONAH GOLDHAGEN, a member of
Harvard's Center for European Studies, is the author of "[censored]'s
Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust." He is
completing a book on genocide in

MUCH HAS been said about the Hamas charter's call for the destruction
of Israel and the need for Hamas to renounce this goal as the condition
for being granted international legitimacy, economic aid and diplomatic
recognition.

But an examination of the charter (available at
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html ) reveals
that Hamas, also known as the Islamic Resistance Movement, is not just
dedicated (however wrongly or murderously) to the destruction of
Israel. It shows Hamas to be governed by a Nazi-like genocidal
orientation to Jews in general.
<snip>
More interesting reading follows.
Bill C

Bill C said:

Just a little more info:
http://tinyurl.com/bzmum

I didn't know you were interested in tracking pointers or the Sieve
of Eratosthenes, maybe you're on the road to discovering why that
WinDoze thinggy leaks memory like a seive.

I just failed to see the relevance of this reference?

Quoted message said:

A manifesto for murder
By Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, DANIEL JONAH GOLDHAGEN, a member of
Harvard's Center for European Studies, is the author of "[censored]'s
Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust." He is

Sheesh, not another diatribe against the Nazis in particular and the
Germans in general. Why can't we just let it rest. Like nobody's
writing any books about Pappy Bush ordering the murder of 200,000
Iraqis retreating under a UN sanctioned Cease Fire agreement.

But still, as I said before, "Ain't no Business like Shoah Business."

You might try "Did Six Million Really Die" though
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/harwood/Didsix01.html

Quoted message said:

MUCH HAS been said about the Hamas charter's call for the destruction
of Israel and the need for Hamas to renounce this goal as the condition
for being granted international legitimacy, economic aid and diplomatic
recognition.

Davey wholeheartedly supports the Arabs in their quest to drive the
interlopers from their lands.

A bunch of Central Europeans want rid of a bunch of Eastern European
trouble makers so they get dumped in the middle of Arabia and you
expect the locals not to be just a teeny weeny bit miffed?

Jeeperz, if they'd been dumped in Yankee-Doodle-Dom, they'd have
needed their Jesus boots for the hike back across the Atlantic long
ago with hopefully a better navigator than that Moses dude.

Quoted message said:

But an examination of the charter (available at
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html ) reveals
that Hamas, also known as the Islamic Resistance Movement, is not just
dedicated (however wrongly or murderously) to the destruction of
Israel. It shows Hamas to be governed by a Nazi-like genocidal
orientation to Jews in general.

Davey, whilst having nothing against any ethnic group in particular,
and in fact has devoted lots of time and energy supporting such
groups, has nothing but disgust for any religion. He'd make
God-Mongering a capital crime and he doesn't particularly care if one
bunch of brainwashed idiots wipes out a similar rival faction.

Heck, the sooner they meet Allah, or Jehova or just get to wander in
the Happy Hunting Grounds or Valhalla, the better as far as Davey is
concerned.

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Davey Crockett
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Davey Crockett said:

Bill C said:

Just a little more info:
http://tinyurl.com/bzmum

I didn't know you were interested in tracking pointers or the Sieve
of Eratosthenes, maybe you're on the road to discovering why that
WinDoze thinggy leaks memory like a seive.

I just failed to see the relevance of this reference?

Quoted message said:

A manifesto for murder
By Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, DANIEL JONAH GOLDHAGEN, a member of
Harvard's Center for European Studies, is the author of "[censored]'s
Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust." He is

Sheesh, not another diatribe against the Nazis in particular and the
Germans in general. Why can't we just let it rest. Like nobody's
writing any books about Pappy Bush ordering the murder of 200,000
Iraqis retreating under a UN sanctioned Cease Fire agreement.

But still, as I said before, "Ain't no Business like Shoah Business."

You might try "Did Six Million Really Die" though
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/harwood/Didsix01.html

Quoted message said:

MUCH HAS been said about the Hamas charter's call for the destruction
of Israel and the need for Hamas to renounce this goal as the condition
for being granted international legitimacy, economic aid and diplomatic
recognition.

Davey wholeheartedly supports the Arabs in their quest to drive the
interlopers from their lands.

A bunch of Central Europeans want rid of a bunch of Eastern European
trouble makers so they get dumped in the middle of Arabia and you
expect the locals not to be just a teeny weeny bit miffed?

Jeeperz, if they'd been dumped in Yankee-Doodle-Dom, they'd have
needed their Jesus boots for the hike back across the Atlantic long
ago with hopefully a better navigator than that Moses dude.

Quoted message said:

But an examination of the charter (available at
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html ) reveals
that Hamas, also known as the Islamic Resistance Movement, is not just
dedicated (however wrongly or murderously) to the destruction of
Israel. It shows Hamas to be governed by a Nazi-like genocidal
orientation to Jews in general.

Davey, whilst having nothing against any ethnic group in particular,
and in fact has devoted lots of time and energy supporting such
groups, has nothing but disgust for any religion. He'd make
God-Mongering a capital crime and he doesn't particularly care if one
bunch of brainwashed idiots wipes out a similar rival faction.

Heck, the sooner they meet Allah, or Jehova or just get to wander in
the Happy Hunting Grounds or Valhalla, the better as far as Davey is
concerned.

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Davey Crockett
Dit 'NON' aux brevets Logiciels
http://brevets-logiciels.info/

Hey Davey
Almost everyone in the UK is an eastern European immigrant, and
actually we're all African immigrants. If you can find some solid
reference material for the early origins and migrations of the
Israelite people please give me a link. This really seems to be the new
mythology that serves it's political purpose well. Everything I have,
and have seen does put them outside Palestine, but all of the
information prior to them being in Egypt is very fragmentary and
there's not much of it since I don't consider the Bible to be a clear
and totally accurate historical record, and not many do. The majority
of opinion seems to favor them originating in Anatolia, Arabia as the
Amorites, or possibly Mesopotamia but this is viewed as less likely. A
newer theory that strikes me as crackpot, but does answer why there is
very little to no historical or archeological evidence prior to Egypt,
is that they were actually Egyptians who were followers of Akhenaton
who changed the Egyptian state religion but that was reversed upon his
death and his followers were persecuted, so they left and became the
Israelites. Depending on whether you give more creedence to the
minimalist or maximalist theories of the origin of the Israelites they
might very well have originated in the area, but much later than the
Torah says, say around 800bce instead of 1700bce.
Any of these theories put them a whole hell of a lot closer to
Palestine, which had a shifting population and waves of migration wash
through, than the Celts were to the UK and Ireland let alone the
Spanish and Euros from the Americas.
They have as much historical right to the land they are on as anyone
else there does because none of them were permanently settled there.
That region was the early boiling point for civilization's wars, and it
was the major crossroads so none of the governments, empires, peoples,
or religions lasted all that long before being driven out or subjugated
by another group. You had the Sumerian Empire from aprox. 2600-2400bce
which had most of the area and a good chunk of Anatolia and all of
Palestine. You had the Agade Empire from aprox. 2400-2200bce which
encompassed the whole region mostly, including portions of Anatolia and
all of Palestine. The Babylonian in about the same footprint from
1950-1600bce. The Assyrian still in basically the same footprint from
1400-1200bce, this overlapped with and conquered the Kassite which
dated 1550-1100bce. All the dates are aproximate, and the names for the
empires vary depending on the sources used but the theme is perfectly
clear, I should hope.
Good Map info here:
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~atlas/

I can, and have made direct links from the Nazis and the Grand Muftis
involvement with them, his friendship with Eichman, his tutelage of his
relative Arafat, and Arafat's repeated and consistant admiration and
respect for the Nazis and the Mufti. The only reson the Mufti wasn't
hanged along with the Leaders of the two SS divisions he helped create
was that the British tried to cut a deal to protect their oil supplies.
Needless to say this backfired badly, as the Nufti was the spititual
leader, and driving force behind the rebellions against British rule in
the region. So the Nazi connection is totally valid and relevant to
today.
Now as for religion, I don't give a [censored] what other people want to
believe in, worship, or do as long as it's not forced down other
peoples throats, and doesn't hurt anyone who doesn't want any part of
it. That said I agree the world would be better off if it went away,
but leaders would find something else to use to consolidate their power
and inflame their people.
Bill C