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  1. Okay, now we know that happens. But, how to prevent it? Let's say I go out
    to the "farm" on Sunday with my chain saw and cut down a broken elm branch
    and lug off the remaining branches. I can say to myself: "Boy, you are gonna
    be sore in a couple of days!" and know that it is true. What can I do on
    Monday to alleviate the soreness that is going to show up on Tuesday? Any
    ideas? Maybe some "hair of the dog" stuff?

    Or, say I ride my bike 100 Km on Saturday. What can I do on Sunday to
    prevent Monday's stiffness? Anything? or am I just fated to feel as if I got
    run over by a truck?

    Pat in TX

  2. Pat said:

    Okay, now we know that happens. But, how to prevent it? Let's say I go out
    to the "farm" on Sunday with my chain saw and cut down a broken elm branch
    and lug off the remaining branches. I can say to myself: "Boy, you are gonna
    be sore in a couple of days!" and know that it is true. What can I do on
    Monday to alleviate the soreness that is going to show up on Tuesday? Any
    ideas? Maybe some "hair of the dog" stuff?

    Or, say I ride my bike 100 Km on Saturday. What can I do on Sunday to
    prevent Monday's stiffness? Anything? or am I just fated to feel as if I got
    run over by a truck?

    I think it is too late by then. I think you have to work back up to your
    normal level in steps. I don't know how many. I suppose just a few, but
    you would have to spend extra time warming up and stretching before
    going all out.

  3. Pat said:

    Okay, now we know that happens. But, how to prevent it? Let's say I go out
    to the "farm" on Sunday with my chain saw and cut down a broken elm branch
    and lug off the remaining branches. I can say to myself: "Boy, you are gonna
    be sore in a couple of days!" and know that it is true. What can I do on
    Monday to alleviate the soreness that is going to show up on Tuesday? Any
    ideas? Maybe some "hair of the dog" stuff?

    Or, say I ride my bike 100 Km on Saturday. What can I do on Sunday to
    prevent Monday's stiffness? Anything? or am I just fated to feel as if I got
    run over by a truck?

    Pat in TX

    When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.

    Bob


  4. Quoted message said:

    When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.

    Bob

    Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks and
    breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had situations
    like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3 flights of stairs
    (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs? These are isolated
    incidents, not training exercises.

    Pat in TX

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    Quoted message said:

    When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.

    Bob

    Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks and
    breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had
    situations like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3 flights
    of stairs (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs? These are
    isolated incidents, not training exercises.

    Pat in TX

    Quoted message said:

    I find a tube of Rub A535 orf Icy hot works. Other than that... just grin
    and bear it.

    Micheal

  6. Micheal Artindale said:

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.

    Bob


    Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks and
    breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had
    situations like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3 flights
    of stairs (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs? These are
    isolated incidents, not training exercises.

    Pat in TX

    I find a tube of Rub A535 orf Icy hot works. Other than that... just grin
    and bear it.

    3 minutes per hundred can't possibly break any micro fibers. You're
    probably not even taking up the slack.

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    Micheal Artindale said:

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    > When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    > reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.
    >
    >
    > Bob
    Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks
    and breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had
    situations like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3
    flights of stairs (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs?
    These are isolated incidents, not training exercises.

    Pat in TX

    I find a tube of Rub A535 orf Icy hot works. Other than that... just grin
    and bear it.

    3 minutes per hundred can't possibly break any micro fibers. You're
    probably not even taking up the slack.

    Meh.... Depending on my schedual, I may find out how good/bad i am.

    Besides... what do you care.

    Micheal

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    Micheal Artindale said:

    "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    > reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.
    >
    >
    > Bob
    Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks
    and breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had
    situations like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3
    flights of stairs (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs?
    These are isolated incidents, not training exercises.

    Pat in TX

    I find a tube of Rub A535 orf Icy hot works. Other than that... just grin
    and bear it.

    3 minutes per hundred can't possibly break any micro fibers. You're
    probably not even taking up the slack.

    Meh.... Depending on my schedual, I may find out how good/bad i am.

    Besides... what do you care.

    Micheal

  9. Micheal Artindale said:

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    Micheal Artindale said:

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    >> When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    >> reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.
    >>
    >>
    >> Bob
    > Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    > something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks
    > and breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had
    > situations like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3
    > flights of stairs (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs?
    > These are isolated incidents, not training exercises.
    >
    > Pat in TX
    >
    I find a tube of Rub A535 orf Icy hot works. Other than that... just grin
    and bear it.


    3 minutes per hundred can't possibly break any micro fibers. You're
    probably not even taking up the slack.

    Meh.... Depending on my schedual, I may find out how good/bad i am.

    Besides... what do you care.

    Spiritual sloth arises from indolence, indulging in pleasures, sleep,
    and craving for lounging around due to one's apathy toward the miseries
    of the cycle of existence.


  10. Quoted message said:


    Spiritual sloth arises from indolence, indulging in pleasures, sleep, and
    craving for lounging around due to one's apathy toward the miseries of the
    cycle of existence.

    Martin! back on task! Your mind is wandering again.

    Pat in TX

  11. Pat said:

    Or, say I ride my bike 100 Km on Saturday. What can I do on Sunday to
    prevent Monday's stiffness? Anything? or am I just fated to feel as if I got
    run over by a truck?

    A massage on Saturday night, then an easy ride on the flats on Sunday
    keeping your heart rate below 120 should help quite a bit.

    The last time I was extremely sore was in the spring when a substitute
    coach had us do lunges around the pool. For some reason my thighs had
    already been feeling particularly weak. A good massage would probably
    have helped a bit, but swallowing my pride and quitting part way
    around would have been the right thing to do.

    --Betsy

  12. betsy said:
    Pat said:

    Or, say I ride my bike 100 Km on Saturday. What can I do on Sunday to
    prevent Monday's stiffness? Anything? or am I just fated to feel as if I got
    run over by a truck?

    A massage on Saturday night, then an easy ride on the flats on Sunday
    keeping your heart rate below 120 should help quite a bit.

    The last time I was extremely sore was in the spring when a substitute
    coach had us do lunges around the pool. For some reason my thighs had
    already been feeling particularly weak. A good massage would probably
    have helped a bit, but swallowing my pride and quitting part way
    around would have been the right thing to do.

    Lunges will always cause soreness for swimmers who just swim, since it
    isn't a move used in swimming. I suppose the closest things in swimming
    would be starts and turns, but even those would be quite different from
    a deep lunge. Lunges are common in step and aerobics classes, and
    weightlifting. I think a well-rounded fitness program should include
    these, and riding or spinning.

  13. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    When I used to do weight training, it was recommended that we only do 4
    reps of each exercise the first week to avoid getting sore muscles.

    Bob

    Okay, but in my example of the broken branch on the elm tree, it's not
    something I do a lot of. A windstorm comes along, an old branch cracks and
    breaks. I don't see how I could train for that. We have all had
    situations like that. Help your buddy move his refrigerator down 3 flights
    of stairs (or up)? Lug a mattress and box springs upstairs? These are
    isolated incidents, not training exercises.

    Pat in TX

    Quoted message said:


    The answer is to remain fit all the time. You may still get a bit stiff from
    over exertion, but less so than if you are not fit in the first place.
    It's what the army (etc) does.

  14. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Okay, now we know that happens. But, how to prevent it? Let's say I go
    out to the "farm" on Sunday with my chain saw and cut down a broken
    elm branch and lug off the remaining branches. I can say to myself:
    "Boy, you are gonna be sore in a couple of days!" and know that it is
    true. What can I do on Monday to alleviate the soreness that is going
    to show up on Tuesday? Any ideas? Maybe some "hair of the dog"
    stuff?

    Or, say I ride my bike 100 Km on Saturday. What can I do on Sunday to
    prevent Monday's stiffness? Anything? or am I just fated to feel as if
    I got run over by a truck?

    Pat in TX

    The thing to try is "active recovery" - exercise, but light in nature
    with a goal of getting the blood flowing without being very strenuous.
    Some forms of yoga, tai chi, qigong, etc., can be useful here, as can
    the type of joint health work I do (that I've described in the past here
    several times). Even an easy, short swim after a bike or run can work
    for this purpose. Active recovery is the "hair of the dog" that you're
    looking for.

    -S-

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