Delicious Jan Ullrich news!!

dupedcyclist said:

FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (AP) - Authorities searched the Swiss home of the
former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich on Wednesday, as well as nine
other homes and offices of people suspected of involvement in a Spanish
doping scandal.

He'd have to be even dumber than Miller to leave anything lying around.

Quoted message said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/sports/othersports/14ullrich.html

Which news? That he's on his honeymoon or that people entered his
house while he wasn't there? Either way it doesn't classify as
delicious and isn't really any news. The results of the raid would be
news.

R

RicodJour said:

The results of the raid would be news.

R

Don't worry. That information will be leaked soon.

Donald Munro said:

dupedcyclist said:

FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (AP) - Authorities searched the Swiss home of the
former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich on Wednesday, as well as nine
other homes and offices of people suspected of involvement in a Spanish
doping scandal.

He'd have to be even dumber than Miller to leave anything lying around.

Various sources (cyclingnews, velonews, ESPN) have said that samples of
Ullrich's DNA were taken in the raid, with the intent of testing them
against the Spanish blood bags.

This looks potentially very bad for Ullrich. But strange to this (dumb)
American observer: it's hard to imagine such samples being seized in
the USA (where are the crimimal charges or warrants?). Clearly
different legal systems...

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:59:45 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

dupedcyclist said:

FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (AP) - Authorities searched the Swiss home of the
former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich on Wednesday, as well as nine
other homes and offices of people suspected of involvement in a Spanish
doping scandal.

He'd have to be even dumber than Miller to leave anything lying around.

In this case they'd be looking for a hairbrush.

Ron

Dwayne said:

Donald Munro said:

dupedcyclist said:

FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (AP) - Authorities searched the Swiss home of the
former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich on Wednesday, as well as nine
other homes and offices of people suspected of involvement in a Spanish
doping scandal.

He'd have to be even dumber than Miller to leave anything lying around.

Various sources (cyclingnews, velonews, ESPN) have said that samples of
Ullrich's DNA were taken in the raid, with the intent of testing them
against the Spanish blood bags.

This looks potentially very bad for Ullrich. But strange to this (dumb)
American observer: it's hard to imagine such samples being seized in
the USA (where are the crimimal charges or warrants?). Clearly
different legal systems...

The charge in Germany was fraud, the idea being that people gave him money they
wouldn't have if he hadn't been doping in violation of the rules of the sport or
the law in that jurisdiction.

US law is usually silent on sports other than boxing or other combat games. The
average police detective's aversion to anything more complicated than who hit
whom means that even if there were a law it would come down to being a civil
case anyway.

Ron

Dwayne said:

Various sources (cyclingnews, velonews, ESPN) have said that samples of
Ullrich's DNA were taken in the raid, with the intent of testing them
against the Spanish blood bags.

i know where to find basso's DNA.

Quoted message said:

i know where to find basso's DNA.

Elisa's?

A DNA sample should have been demanded from Ullrich in the beginning.
This would put a end to the endless rumors.

Quoted message said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/sports/othersports/14ullrich.html

Swiss Home of Cyclist Ullrich Is Raided

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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 14, 2006
FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (AP) - Authorities searched the Swiss home of the
former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich on Wednesday, as well as nine
other homes and offices of people suspected of involvement in a Spanish
doping scandal.

A statement by Germany's Federal Crime Office did not say whose homes
or offices had been searched. But Ullrich's manager, Wolfgang
Strohband, confirmed that his and Ullrich's homes had been raided.

Ullrich, who is on his honeymoon, was not at home during the raid,
Strohband said.

The headquarters of Ullrich's former T-Mobile team in Bonn were also
searched. "We were of course cooperative," a team spokesman,
Christian Frommert, said.

The searches, both in Germany and abroad, were part of the fraud
investigation by prosecutors in connection with the investigation of
the Spanish doctor Eufemiano Fuentes.

Five people in Spain - including Fuentes and another doctor, José
Luis Merino Batres - were arrested and charged in May when the police
seized drugs and frozen blood at a Madrid clinic. The samples were
thought to have been prepared for performance-enhancing transfusions.

Nine riders, including Ullrich, Ivan Basso and Francisco Mancebo, were
forced to withdraw before the start of this year's Tour de France
because of alleged ties to Fuentes.

Ullrich, who won the 1997 Tour de France, was fired by his T-Mobile
team. He has denied any wrongdoing and has declined to take a DNA test.

Quoted message said:

A DNA sample should have been demanded from Ullrich in the beginning.
This would put a end to the endless rumors.

Pretty obvious why he didn't ask for it, his blood is over there.

Dude's got a nice big fat house by the way, saw it on TV the other
day, not sure he'll be able to pay for the upkeep going forward...

Dwayne said:

Donald Munro said:

dupedcyclist said:

FRANKFURT, Sept. 13 (AP) - Authorities searched the Swiss home of the
former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich on Wednesday, as well as nine
other homes and offices of people suspected of involvement in a Spanish
doping scandal.

He'd have to be even dumber than Miller to leave anything lying around.

Various sources (cyclingnews, velonews, ESPN) have said that samples of
Ullrich's DNA were taken in the raid, with the intent of testing them
against the Spanish blood bags.

Now, the usual sources (Cyclingnews, Velonews, ...) are reporting that
the German police have stated that no Ullrich DNA samples were taken in
the raid.