Dietary Lactic Acid Metabolism

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How does the body process dietary lactic acid in yogurt or sauerkraut. Is it treated as a fat or
carbohydrate? Is it broken down in the intestine before absorption or is it absorbed unaltered?
Does the liver convert it to glucose or fats? Thx

I It is not a fat or fatty acid in which lipases act upon it and it is not broken down through beta
oxidation to create ketone bodies. It is not a carbohydrate as they are not acids. It is more of a
TCA acid. The acid portion of lactic acid is absorbed or not based on acid-base considerations.
Excess acid is eliminated via the lungs as CO2 and in the urine. The lactate anion portion of the
acid or the salt portion is accepted into the TCA cycle in which it will eventually be eliminated as
CO2. The absorption process through the GI tract is not really a big active thing as most lactic
acid is a metabolic byproduct resulting from the anaerobic process. In the muscle when too much
lactate is produced it is sent to the liver which converts it to glucose also known as the Cori
cycle. 2 lactate plus 6 ATP goes to glucose plus 6 ADP plus 6 Pi. It enters the citric acid cycle
through the action by lactate dehydrogenase. lactate plus NAD goes to pyruvate plus NADH plus H

gluconeogenesis is an energy requiring process so it is only used when not enough glucose is
available. In short the body, and many tissues can utilize lactate but for any active absorption by
the gut often requires energy and often through Na dependent secondary active transport process.
"The capacity of the small intestine to absorb large amount of free sugars is enormous. It has been
estimated that hexose's equivalent to 22 pounds of sucrose could be absorbed daily. There appears to
be little physiological control of sugar absorption. However, chemoreceptors and osmoreceptors in
the proximal small intestine control the motility and emptying of the stomach through a negative
feedback process medicated by hormones and neural reflexes. As an example, a volume of isotonic
citrate solution of 750 ml placed in the stomach passes into the small bowel in 20 minutes. The
volume delivered in the same time is reduced if sucrose or glucose is added to the citrate solution.
The amount delivered is related inversely to the sugar concentration." The above gives you a good
idea about passive lactate, related to citrate (TCA), absorption in relation to active absorption.

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jaym1212 said:

How does the body process dietary lactic acid in yogurt or sauerkraut. Is it treated as a fat or
carbohydrate? Is it broken down in the intestine before absorption or is it absorbed unaltered?
Does the liver convert it to glucose or fats? Thx

B-0b1 here: Lactose is a sugar derived from milk. C12 H22 O11. which on hydrolisis yields
Glucose and galactose. Glucose is the stuff of all flesh, be it skin or cartialge. It is
catalysed within the body by the KREB'S cycle whic needs CALCIUM as a catalyst itself. SO..MILK
is a balanced Trio of Calcium, Magnesium, and Phosphorus..the MAJICK

TRiO for Bones and flesh. If you do NOT get enough of same, you awaken at night with leg
cramps. The ONLY Alligator in the pond here though is the LARGE enzyme in Cows Milk which when
left alone is so large it goes right through you with NO HARM DONE..However when this "X-0"
enzyme is "micronized" by HOMOGENIZATION, Cow's MILK become a deadly poison! Over 1 million
autopsies do NOT Lie.

The ONLY way any of us can STOP this NONSENSE is to write BOTH your Congressmen AND the damned
Dairies that supply your milk in any given area, THEIR hands are tied by UNCLE who wants to
promote ill heath and DEATH as much as possible! My personal solution is too violent however to be
practical LOL! SO I buy powdered MILK and make my OWN. SANALAC is the BEST on the market...OR you
can make Milk SAFE by doing the FOLLOWING:

Bring the milk you buy up to a simmer for about 10 to 20 minutes and stop just as the first BOIL
starts, The let it cool over night, In the Morning you will find tis nasty looking "PANCAKE" on
top. Filter it and its associated crumbs OUT of the milk and cool it. You will experience a nice
tasting and longer lasting product as well. HEALTH is but a "PROCEDURE" away! Its UP to YOU..No
one will do it for you!! "WIC" is a murdering bunch of [censored] and the yearly "SIDS" count shows
it!! Ask my second daughter who's been buried now for 38 yrs. She appeared to e and was VERY
angry,,,I did not blame her as her parents were too ignorant at the time to save her. At least 3
more have made it OK once we learned WHAT it was that killed her! DAMN the Political regime under
which we struggle! > B-0b1

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Quoted message said:

How does the body process dietary lactic acid in yogurt or sauerkraut. Is it treated as a fat or
carbohydrate? Is it broken down in the intestine before absorption or is it absorbed unaltered?
Does the liver convert it to glucose or fats? Thx

I It is not a fat or fatty acid in which lipases act upon it and it is not broken down through
beta oxidation to create ketone bodies. It is not a carbohydrate as they are not acids. It is more
of a TCA acid. The acid portion of lactic acid is absorbed or not based on acid-base
considerations. Excess acid is eliminated via the lungs as CO2 and in the urine. The lactate anion
portion of the acid or the salt portion is accepted into the TCA cycle in which it will eventually
be eliminated as CO2. The absorption process through the GI tract is not really a big active thing
as most lactic acid is a metabolic byproduct resulting from the anaerobic process. In the muscle
when too much lactate is produced it is sent to the liver which converts it to glucose also known
as the Cori cycle. 2 lactate plus 6 ATP goes to glucose plus 6 ADP plus 6 Pi. It enters the citric
acid cycle through the action by lactate dehydrogenase. lactate plus NAD goes to pyruvate plus
NADH plus H

gluconeogenesis is an energy requiring process so it is only used when not enough glucose is
available. In short the body, and many tissues can utilize lactate but for any active absorption
by the gut often requires energy and often through Na dependent secondary active transport
process. "The capacity of the small intestine to absorb large amount of free sugars is enormous.
It has been estimated that hexose's equivalent to 22 pounds of sucrose could be absorbed daily.
There appears to be little physiological control of sugar absorption. However, chemoreceptors and
osmoreceptors in the proximal small intestine control the motility and emptying of the stomach
through a negative feedback process medicated by hormones and neural reflexes. As an example, a
volume of isotonic citrate solution of 750 ml placed in the stomach passes into the small bowel in
20 minutes. The volume delivered in the same time is reduced if sucrose or glucose is added to the
citrate solution. The amount delivered is related inversely to the sugar concentration." The above
gives you a good idea about passive lactate, related to citrate (TCA), absorption in relation to
active absorption.

Lactic Acid is a complex SUGAR...it is treated the same as any other. B-0b1

B-Ob1 said:

However when this "X-0" enzyme is "micronized" by HOMOGENIZATION, Cow's MILK become a deadly
poison! Over 1 million autopsies do NOT Lie.

B-Ob1 - where have you been all my life, while I awaited this insight? Wherever it was, please go
back there.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and exercise.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

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jaym1212 said:

How does the body process dietary lactic acid in yogurt or sauerkraut. Is it treated as a fat or
carbohydrate? Is it broken down in the intestine before absorption or is it absorbed unaltered?
Does the liver convert it to glucose or fats? Thx

B-0b1 here: Lactose is a sugar derived from milk. C12 H22 O11.

You don't even know the difference between lactic acid and lactose. The rest is funny and I am
out of here

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Lactic Acid is a complex SUGAR...it is treated the same as any other. B-0b1

Sugars have more than one hydroxyl group and don't have any carboxylic acid (-COOH) groups. Lactic
acid has one hydroxyl group and a carboxylic acid group.

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Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

I don't know about that... I've gotten kicked out of stores for laughing too much. 🙂

live-in while standing on your head?? B-0b111

Alan said:

B-Ob1 said:

However when this "X-0" enzyme is "micronized" by HOMOGENIZATION, Cow's MILK become a deadly
poison! Over 1 million autopsies do NOT Lie.

B-Ob1 - where have you been all my life, while I awaited this insight? Wherever it was, please go
back there.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and exercise.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

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Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

I don't know about that... I've gotten kicked out of stores for laughing too much. 🙂

What was funny - the prices, the goods or the staff?

I suppose it may hurt trade in a store if you're rolling around the floor cackling uncontrollably.

I just noticed a trailer on a TV documentary about an Indian (as in sub-continent) guy who has
started up "laughing" clubs all over the place. Must watch it if I get the time.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and exercise.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

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B-Ob1 said:

live-in while standing on your head?? B-0b111

Alan said:

B-Ob1 said:

However when this "X-0" enzyme is "micronized" by HOMOGENIZATION, Cow's MILK become a deadly
poison! Over 1 million autopsies do NOT Lie.

B-Ob1 - where have you been all my life, while I awaited this insight? Wherever it was, please
go back there.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and exercise.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

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How does the body process dietary lactic acid in yogurt or sauerkraut.

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It is not a fat or fatty acid in which lipases act upon it and it is not broken down through beta
oxidation to create ketone bodies. It is not a carbohydrate as they are not acids.

If one is in ketosis and he drinks lactic acid, would this bring him out of ketosis? Does the
ingested lactic acid get converted to glucose for the most part by the liver?

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How does the body process dietary lactic acid in yogurt or sauerkraut.

Quoted message said:

It is not a fat or fatty acid in which lipases act upon it and it is not broken down through
beta oxidation to create ketone bodies. It is not a carbohydrate as they are not acids.

If one is in ketosis and he drinks lactic acid, would this bring him out of ketosis? Does the
ingested lactic acid get converted to glucose for the most part by the liver?

A lactated ringers solution contains 9 calories. A dextrose 5% in Lactated Ringers solution contains
179 calories. A fat IV solution liposyn 10% contains 1100 calories. No comparison. Lactated
solutions are used in Acid base manipulations where the lactate is a precursor of bicarbonate. There
is a question of sick people being able to metabolize lactate properly. The blood level of lactate
correlates with the prognosis in a patient with shock. One must measure beta hydroxybutyric acid
which is the earliest precursor in the pathway. In severe acidosis most of the ketone bodies are in
this form. The intermediate forms acetoacetic acid and the final form acetone are all easily
detected with the over the counter dip sticks given to most people on the Atkins diet.