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In message <[email hidden]>,
Dundonald <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Thanks.

No personal experience, but there's a review of Metroguide on:

http://gpsinformation.net/

Garmin's site at:

<http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/citynavEuro.jsp#mapsource>
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/cityselectEuro.jsp
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.jsp

has a features page each of the maps, but I expect you've seen that.
--
Neil Pugh

Neil Pugh said:

In message <[email hidden]>,
Dundonald <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Thanks.

No personal experience, but there's a review of Metroguide on:

http://gpsinformation.net/

Thanks Neil.

Quoted message said:

Garmin's site at:

<http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/citynavEuro.jsp#mapsource>
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/cityselectEuro.jsp
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.jsp

has a features page each of the maps, but I expect you've seen that.

Yep. The functionality summary is pretty much identical to each, so
not sure which one is right for me. The prices vary dramatically
though.

Quoted message said:

--
Neil Pugh

Dundonald said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Thanks.

Metroguide does not support auto routing on the GPS unit, so will just
point you in a straight line ("as the crow flies"😉 to the destination.

City Select and City Navigator both support autorouting, AFAIK there's
very little difference between them. Apparently City Select has smaller
map tiles, which is useful if you have a GPS device without much memory.

I've heard City Select is (or is due to be) discontinued, and replaced
by City Navigator. Also, a new version of City Nav is supposed to be
released sometime soon.

--
Craig Wallace
http://craig.neogeo.org.uk
http://www.neogeo.org.uk

Not sure about Navigator but I have been using a GPSMap60C with City
Select for over a year. Found it to be a great combination with no
problems. The new Garmins are an even better unit so I hear.

Phil

Not sure about Navigator but I have been using a GPSMap60C with City
Select for over a year. Found it to be a great combination with no
problems. The new Garmins are an even better unit so I hear.

Phil

Dundonald said:

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off getting the UK
topo mapping instead? I think that does auto routing too, doesn't it? Do
you really need roads for the whole of Europe?

Paul

Dundonald said:

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off getting the UK
topo mapping instead? I think that does auto routing too, doesn't it? Do
you really need roads for the whole of Europe?

Paul

Quoted message said:

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off getting the UK
topo mapping instead?

There was a previous thread here about the new Garmin UK topo mapping.
It didn't sound too promising (though I may be wrong).

For serious walking use I'd suggest Memory Map, Anteq or the like.

Phil

Quoted message said:

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off getting the UK
topo mapping instead?

There was a previous thread here about the new Garmin UK topo mapping.
It didn't sound too promising (though I may be wrong).

For serious walking use I'd suggest Memory Map, Anteq or the like.

Phil

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off
getting the UK topo mapping instead?

There was a previous thread here about the new Garmin UK topo mapping.
It didn't sound too promising (though I may be wrong).

I accept that it's pretty poor compared to the OS maps, but it would still
be extremely useful in a GPS (you don't need every little detail in the GPS
to find your way around), far more useful than roads alone. You can add
free contours to the roads, but the topo contours are more accurate and add
even more detail besides.

Quoted message said:

For serious walking use I'd suggest Memory Map, Anteq or the like.

Can't upload those to a GPS. Great for planning and GPS data management,
but for actual walking, the topo mapping is currently the best bet (aside
from the palmtop option, but that's got battery and waterproofing issues).

Paul

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off
getting the UK topo mapping instead?

There was a previous thread here about the new Garmin UK topo mapping.
It didn't sound too promising (though I may be wrong).

I accept that it's pretty poor compared to the OS maps, but it would still
be extremely useful in a GPS (you don't need every little detail in the GPS
to find your way around), far more useful than roads alone. You can add
free contours to the roads, but the topo contours are more accurate and add
even more detail besides.

Quoted message said:

For serious walking use I'd suggest Memory Map, Anteq or the like.

Can't upload those to a GPS. Great for planning and GPS data management,
but for actual walking, the topo mapping is currently the best bet (aside
from the palmtop option, but that's got battery and waterproofing issues).

Paul

Dundonald said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Maps. Little if any difference, assuming the same version number of product.

From my understanding:

City Select= Full routing on GPS and PC. (Product recommended by Garmin for
60CS series).
City Navigator = routing on PC, not on GPS. Suits older non-routing GPS
handsets. Works on newer routing handsets, but you don't get routing on the
GPS.
Metroguide = no routing.

Routing means that you can specify a start and end point, and the device
(GPS or PC) will work out the route along roads. From two points (start,
end), it will report all road junctions, etc. etc.
Lack of routing means you have to specify all the turn points yourself.

In practice, one usually specifies some turns for a device with routing, to
ensure it takes the approximate direction you desire.

If you do without routing on the GPS, the maps still work and display on the
screen, but the navigation route is show as straight lines between any fixed
waypoints along the route.

When I last contacted Garmin UK, I was informed that if I purchased City
Select V6 (what various web retailers were offering for sale), they would
upgrade to V7 free of charge. You may wish to check this with them before
spending.

- Nigel

--
Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

Dundonald said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Maps. Little if any difference, assuming the same version number of product.

From my understanding:

City Select= Full routing on GPS and PC. (Product recommended by Garmin for
60CS series).
City Navigator = routing on PC, not on GPS. Suits older non-routing GPS
handsets. Works on newer routing handsets, but you don't get routing on the
GPS.
Metroguide = no routing.

Routing means that you can specify a start and end point, and the device
(GPS or PC) will work out the route along roads. From two points (start,
end), it will report all road junctions, etc. etc.
Lack of routing means you have to specify all the turn points yourself.

In practice, one usually specifies some turns for a device with routing, to
ensure it takes the approximate direction you desire.

If you do without routing on the GPS, the maps still work and display on the
screen, but the navigation route is show as straight lines between any fixed
waypoints along the route.

When I last contacted Garmin UK, I was informed that if I purchased City
Select V6 (what various web retailers were offering for sale), they would
upgrade to V7 free of charge. You may wish to check this with them before
spending.

- Nigel

--
Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

Quoted message said:

Not sure about Navigator but I have been using a GPSMap60C with City
Select for over a year. Found it to be a great combination with no
problems. The new Garmins are an even better unit so I hear.

Thanks Phil, did the autorouting work ok with City Select and your 60C?

Quoted message said:

Not sure about Navigator but I have been using a GPSMap60C with City
Select for over a year. Found it to be a great combination with no
problems. The new Garmins are an even better unit so I hear.

Thanks Phil, did the autorouting work ok with City Select and your 60C?

Paul Saunders said:

Dundonald said:

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off getting the UK
topo mapping instead? I think that does auto routing too, doesn't it? Do
you really need roads for the whole of Europe?

Paul, if the UK topo does autorouting then that would work just fine,
whole of Europe is not a necessity. What road mapping have you got,
that you used with the free contours on top?

Paul Saunders said:

Dundonald said:

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality

If you plan to use it for walking, wouldn't you be better off getting the UK
topo mapping instead? I think that does auto routing too, doesn't it? Do
you really need roads for the whole of Europe?

Paul, if the UK topo does autorouting then that would work just fine,
whole of Europe is not a necessity. What road mapping have you got,
that you used with the free contours on top?

Nigel Cliffe said:

Dundonald said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Maps. Little if any difference, assuming the same version number of product.

From my understanding:

City Select= Full routing on GPS and PC. (Product recommended by Garmin for
60CS series).
City Navigator = routing on PC, not on GPS. Suits older non-routing GPS
handsets. Works on newer routing handsets, but you don't get routing on the
GPS.
Metroguide = no routing.

Routing means that you can specify a start and end point, and the device
(GPS or PC) will work out the route along roads. From two points (start,
end), it will report all road junctions, etc. etc.
Lack of routing means you have to specify all the turn points yourself.

In practice, one usually specifies some turns for a device with routing, to
ensure it takes the approximate direction you desire.

If you do without routing on the GPS, the maps still work and display on the
screen, but the navigation route is show as straight lines between any fixed
waypoints along the route.

When I last contacted Garmin UK, I was informed that if I purchased City
Select V6 (what various web retailers were offering for sale), they would
upgrade to V7 free of charge. You may wish to check this with them before
spending.

Thanks Nigel.

Nigel Cliffe said:

Dundonald said:

There appears to be

City Navigator Europe
City Select Europe
Metroguide Europe

It's not immediately obvious from garmin's site what the difference in
functionality between the three is. Any input from you chaps who may
use this software?

FYI I will shortly be purchasing Garmin 60CSx and will be looking to
purchase street mapping and would hope to use the 60CSx's auto routing
functionality (i.e. if I take wrong turn, GPS creates a new route to
destination etc).

Maps. Little if any difference, assuming the same version number of product.

From my understanding:

City Select= Full routing on GPS and PC. (Product recommended by Garmin for
60CS series).
City Navigator = routing on PC, not on GPS. Suits older non-routing GPS
handsets. Works on newer routing handsets, but you don't get routing on the
GPS.
Metroguide = no routing.

Routing means that you can specify a start and end point, and the device
(GPS or PC) will work out the route along roads. From two points (start,
end), it will report all road junctions, etc. etc.
Lack of routing means you have to specify all the turn points yourself.

In practice, one usually specifies some turns for a device with routing, to
ensure it takes the approximate direction you desire.

If you do without routing on the GPS, the maps still work and display on the
screen, but the navigation route is show as straight lines between any fixed
waypoints along the route.

When I last contacted Garmin UK, I was informed that if I purchased City
Select V6 (what various web retailers were offering for sale), they would
upgrade to V7 free of charge. You may wish to check this with them before
spending.

Thanks Nigel.