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  1. Hello everybody.

    OS is selling 1:50 000 Scale Colour Raster providing a complete digital view of the Landranger
    paper maps for a price of £10 plus VAT of a tile 20 km by 20 km. Unfortunately they have a minimum
    order quantity of £100. It's not the price of £10 although I can get a digital 1:50 000 maps here
    in Germany for about £40 of a region 100 mls by 100 mls. But I don't need that many coverage. I
    would be satisfied with a region 40 km by 40 km of the central Lake District to plan my tours for
    March 2004.

    Can anybody help with an idea how to get a digital map of that area and save me some money I'd
    rather spend in B&B to increase the comfort when walking in the Lakes next year?

    Walter
    --
    50 Wege wie man andere in den Wahnsinn treibt:
    19. Erforsche in der Öffentlichkeit, wie langsam du ein krächzendes Geräusch machen kannst.

  2. Try having a look at the following site
    anquet.co.ukproduct.asp

    Cheers

    Andy

    "Walter Janné" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello everybody.

    OS is selling 1:50 000 Scale Colour Raster providing a complete digital view of the Landranger
    paper maps for a price of £10 plus VAT of a tile 20 km by 20 km. Unfortunately they have a minimum
    order quantity of £100. It's not the price of £10 although I can get a digital 1:50 000 maps here
    in Germany for about £40 of a region 100 mls by 100 mls. But I don't need that many coverage. I
    would be satisfied with a region 40 km by 40 km of the central Lake District to plan my tours for
    March 2004.

    Can anybody help with an idea how to get a digital map of that area and save me some money I'd
    rather spend in B&B to increase the comfort when walking in the Lakes next year?

    Walter
    --
    50 Wege wie man andere in den Wahnsinn treibt:
    19. Erforsche in der Öffentlichkeit, wie langsam du ein krächzendes Geräusch machen kannst.

  3. Walter Janné said:

    Can anybody help with an idea how to get a digital map of that area and save me some money I'd
    rather spend in B&B to increase the comfort when walking in the Lakes next year?


    If you are patient it is possible to download 2km x 2km tiles of the latest OS 1:25,000 maps from
    getamap.co.ukgetamap.co.uk. These can be assembled quite easily using something like MS Publisher,
    and then even calibrated and used in something like OziExplorer.

    The results are very good, so I am told. ;-

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, Walter_Janné

    url=''URL:/url said:

    Hello everybody.

    OS is selling 1:50 000 Scale Colour Raster providing a complete digital view of the Landranger
    paper maps for a price of £10 plus VAT of a tile 20 km by 20 km. Unfortunately they have a minimum
    order quantity of £100. It's not the price of £10 although I can get a digital 1:50 000 maps here
    in Germany for about £40 of a region 100 mls by 100 mls. But I don't need that many coverage. I
    would be satisfied with a region 40 km by 40 km of the central Lake District to plan my tours for
    March 2004.

    Can anybody help with an idea how to get a digital map of that area and save me some money I'd
    rather spend in B&B to increase the comfort when walking in the Lakes next year?

    Walter

    Yes you can purchase regional coverage of OS digital 1:50,000 (and soon
    1:25,000) OS maps from

    Memory-Map <URL:http://www.memory-map.co.uk/>

    Anquet <URL:http://anquet.co.uk/>

    Tracklogs <URL:http://www.tracklogs.co.uk/>

    Mike <URL:http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~mrc7/>
    --
    o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark <\__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing, "> ||
    _`\<,_ |__\ \> | immunology lecturer, antibody engineer and ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user"

  5. In message <[email hidden]>, Ian Dainty
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    "Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway they've lost my future custom, although I may continue to download freebies - I bought my
    first Harvey map yesterday

    Harveys versus OS. I remember that thread well! Can we fire that one up again.

    I'll start. As far as I recall, it went like this...

    Oh yeah Paul. Well Harvey's maps are nicely coloured but they are useless for serious people who
    want to navigate like men in the hills. And they are completely USELESS in whiteouts!

    But they do have a nice shop in Leeds.

    --
    Martin Richardson
    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    217/89 Donalds 389/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

  6. marc <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Ian Dainty said:

    Oh yeah Paul. Well Harvey's maps are nicely coloured but they are useless for serious people who
    want to navigate like men in the hills. And they are completely USELESS in whiteouts!

    What happens when the batteries go flat?


    Well, unlike a GPS, if you walk over the edge of a cliff holding a Harveys map, you can use it as a
    parachute.

    I had the presence of mind to drop my GPSRs, and empty my pockets of all the spare batteries as I
    floated gently down to.......

    Well, I don't really know where to, the GPS broke when it hit the ground.
    --
    Gordon

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, Chris

    url='mailto:proteus1@gmxDOTnet'URL:mailto:proteus1@gmxDOTnet/url said:
    Walter Janné said:

    Can anybody help with an idea how to get a digital map of that area and save me some money I'd
    rather spend in B&B to increase the comfort when walking in the Lakes next year?


    If you are patient it is possible to download 2km x 2km tiles of the latest OS 1:25,000 maps from
    getamap.co.ukgetamap.co.uk. These can be assembled quite easily using something like MS Publisher,
    and then even calibrated and used in something like OziExplorer.

    The results are very good, so I am told. ;->

    Yes but the licence terms are that you can only download 10 such tiles.

    Mike <URL:http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~mrc7/>
    --
    o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark <\__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing, "> ||
    _`\<,_ |__\ \> | immunology lecturer, antibody engineer and ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user"

  8. Mike Clark said:

    Yes but the licence terms are that you can only download 10 such tiles.


    What if you can't count? Apparently OS can't!

  9. On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:07:48 +0000, Mike Clark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Yes but the licence terms are that you can only download 10 such tiles.

    Mike <URL:http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~mrc7/>
    --

    This has been puzzling me. Do they mean 10 tiles total until you die?, 10 tiles per year? 10 tiles
    in one connection session?

    Dave

  10. Chris proteus1@gmxDOTnet said:

    Mike Clark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes but the licence terms are that you can only download 10 such tiles.

    Quoted message said:

    What if you can't count? Apparently OS can't!

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  11. (Chris Malcolm) said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes but the licence terms are that you can only download 10 such tiles.

    Quoted message said:

    What if you can't count? Apparently OS can't!

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.


    Naivety is in the eye of the beholder. It's a moot point whether OS has the inclination or
    capability to chase down infringers of their copyright. [1] Considering the amount of copyright
    infringement that already exists in the music, film and software industries, and the lack of
    people going to jail, it may be worth considering the scale of the offence, if you forgive the
    pun. Now if you were selling hundreds of copies of their digital maps at car boot sales, it might
    be another matter.

    [1] There are also many who believe very strongly that information such as map data, telephone
    directories etc. should be in the public domain, as they are in some countries, and that the
    that the cost to the end user should be the cost of producing material copies.

  12. Chris Malcolm said:

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    You mean they employ people to spend all day browsing walking websites?

    Sounds like a good job.

    Paul
    --
    The October Project 2003
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukoctober.html
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  13. On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:15:58 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Chris

    Malcolm) said:
    Chris proteus1@gmxDOTnet said:

    Mike Clark <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes but the licence terms are that you can only download 10 such tiles.

    Quoted message said:

    What if you can't count? Apparently OS can't!

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    It's a civil matter, isn't it?

    --
    Paul My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003): paulrooney.netfirms.compaulrooney.netfirms.com 117
    Wainwrights

    Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at: justgiving.comlondon2004

  14. Paul Rooney said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    It's a civil matter, isn't it?


    I would think so. You don't exactly have to hack the site to download the images, and I don't recall
    signing anything. 😉

  15. Chris proteus1@gmxDOTnet said:
    Paul Rooney said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    It's a civil matter, isn't it?


    I would think so. You don't exactly have to hack the site to download the images, and I don't
    recall signing anything. 😉

    Anyway they've lost my future custom, although I may continue to download freebies - I bought my
    first Harvey map yesterday and I like it more than the OS one. Nice and clear. It says it's
    waterproof - does that really mean it can withstand a soaking, anyone?

    --
    Paul My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003): paulrooney.netfirms.compaulrooney.netfirms.com 117
    Wainwrights

    Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at: justgiving.comlondon2004

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, Chris

    url='mailto:proteus1@gmxDOTnet'URL:mailto:proteus1@gmxDOTnet/url said:
    Paul Rooney said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    It's a civil matter, isn't it?


    I would think so. You don't exactly have to hack the site to download the images, and I don't
    recall signing anything. 😉


    But at least some of it is crown copyright.

    Mike <URL:http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~mrc7/>
    --
    o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark <\__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing, "> ||
    _`\<,_ |__\ \> | immunology lecturer, antibody engineer and ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user"

  17. Chris proteus1@gmxDOTnet said:

    Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's a civil matter, isn't it?

    Quoted message said:

    I would think so. You don't exactly have to hack the site to download the images, and I don't
    recall signing anything. 😉

    You don't recall clicking on the button labelled "I agree to the terms and conditions"?

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  18. "Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway they've lost my future custom, although I may continue to download freebies - I bought my
    first Harvey map yesterday

    Harveys versus OS. I remember that thread well! Can we fire that one up again.

    I'll start. As far as I recall, it went like this...

    Oh yeah Paul. Well Harvey's maps are nicely coloured but they are useless for serious people who
    want to navigate like men in the hills. And they are completely USELESS in whiteouts!

    Discuss....

    Ian.

    --
    Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - mailgate.orgmailgate.org

  19. Mike Clark said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Chris

    url='mailto:proteus1@gmxDOTnet'URL:mailto:proteus1@gmxDOTnet/url said:
    Paul Rooney said:

    >Don't count on it staying that way. They don't want innocent folk to end up in jail, so they
    >thoughtfully employ folk whose job it is to help naive people from breaking the copyright laws.

    It's a civil matter, isn't it?


    I would think so. You don't exactly have to hack the site to download the images, and I don't
    recall signing anything. 😉


    But at least some of it is crown copyright.

    Mike <URL:http://www.path.cam.ac.uk/~mrc7/>

    I regard anything 'royal' or 'crown' as public property (-:

    --
    Paul My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003): paulrooney.netfirms.compaulrooney.netfirms.com 117
    Wainwrights

    Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at: justgiving.comlondon2004

  20. Mike Clark said:
    Quoted message said:

    I would think so. You don't exactly have to hack the site to download the images, and I don't
    recall signing anything. 😉


    But at least some of it is crown copyright.


    People should make their own informed choices. I am happy with the morality of mine, which I have
    not explicitly stated.

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