Doctor's Advice?

John said:

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

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What John said.

Don't be a putz.

David

In article <[email hidden]>,

NYC XYZ said:

The sports doc told me NOT to do anymore running. NONE. Not until I
get some PT, then maybe a steroid injection (worst-case scenario,
surgery). My last vertebra is out of jelly -- no more shock gelatin in
there, I have a herniated disc, blah blah.

But I gotta run!

Running sucks.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

NYC XYZ said:

But I gotta run!

Ever try deep water aqua-jogging? Put on a floatation belt (or just
hold a styrofoam noodle under your arms) and run in place. It's a great
way to train your legs to be efficient in the running motion. I did
rehab this way and came out of the water better at running than before
my injury.

It helps if you bring a little kid to the pool with you to play tag.
It's much less boring that way.

Dally

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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But I gotta run! It kills me watching everybody running around, and
seeing all the lard-asses taking their sweet time walking in the middle
of the track no less when I'm out of commission!

Bike.

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Pete

Pete said:

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> schreef:

Quoted message said:

But I gotta run! It kills me watching everybody running around, and
seeing all the lard-asses taking their sweet time walking in the middle
of the track no less when I'm out of commission!

Bike.

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Pete

I do! I even got a $3.5K 'bent on account of doctor's orders (well,
sort -- he only said "recumbent," not "$3.5K"😉, but there's no
substitution for running! A lot more beautiful girls jogging (mainly
walking -- LOL!) around the track than biking in the streets, too (I
find it funny how scared these feminists tend to be).

David Cohen said:

John said:

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

<snip advice>

What John said.

Don't be a putz.

David

Sigh...!

But the doc -- who'd played football in high school and has a bad back
himself -- says that running is *inherently* bad for the back and to
NEVER do it, even after I've healed (if that can even happen)!

Damn, I feel disabled already...what the hell ever happened to the body
repairing itself and all that???

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David Cohen said:

John said:

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

<snip advice>

What John said.

Don't be a putz.

David

Sigh...!

But the doc -- who'd played football in high school and has a bad back
himself -- says that running is *inherently* bad for the back and to
NEVER do it, even after I've healed (if that can even happen)!

Damn, I feel disabled already...what the hell ever happened to the body
repairing itself and all that???

Old age? 😉

Dally said:

NYC XYZ said:

But I gotta run!

Ever try deep water aqua-jogging? Put on a floatation belt (or just
hold a styrofoam noodle under your arms) and run in place. It's a great
way to train your legs to be efficient in the running motion. I did
rehab this way and came out of the water better at running than before
my injury.

It helps if you bring a little kid to the pool with you to play tag.
It's much less boring that way.

Dally

Hmm, interesting idea! Thanks...but there's nothing like just going to
the park and running around any time you want!

Wow, you actually improved in the water! Fascinating...yes, I'll find
some little kids to play deep-water aqua-jogging tag with...but you
know, little kids like to cheat!!

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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Bike.

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I do! I even got a $3.5K 'bent on account of doctor's orders (well,
sort -- he only said "recumbent," not "$3.5K"😉, but there's no
substitution for running!

Running stresses the knees, ankles, hips, and last but not least, back.

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A lot more beautiful girls jogging (mainly
walking -- LOL!)

I see your point.
In my country, a lit of girls have a racing bike. Like i do.
Because of the forward position of the torso, those glutes kinda bulge out.
So i always ride a few meters behind them.

One should always encourage women to squat, deadlift, row, and ride a bike.

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Pete

"John" <[email hidden]> schreef:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But the doc -- who'd played football in high school and has a bad back
himself -- says that running is *inherently* bad for the back and to
NEVER do it, even after I've healed (if that can even happen)!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Damn, I feel disabled already...what the hell ever happened to the body
repairing itself and all that???

Quoted message said:

Old age? 😉

Low testosterone. Probably low GH output as well.

There are clinics for these sorta things...

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Pete

NYC XYZ said:

But I gotta run! It kills me watching everybody running around, and
seeing all the lard-asses taking their sweet time walking in the middle
of the track no less when I'm out of commission!

Part sideline jealousy (altho those 'lardasses' may run someday too) or
part missing that endorphin high from running ? (that can be
addictive)
You may want to get a 2nd opinion on your back, perhaps from an
orthopedic specialist in sports medicine. Herniated discs can cripple
you for life and you wont even be able to walk let alone run, so
consider yourself lucky to only be sidelined from running at this
point.

joanne

NYC XYZ said:

David Cohen said:

John said:

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote

<snip advice>

What John said.

Don't be a putz.

David

Sigh...!

But the doc -- who'd played football in high school and has a bad back
himself -- says that running is *inherently* bad for the back and to
NEVER do it, even after I've healed (if that can even happen)!

Damn, I feel disabled already...what the hell ever happened to the
body repairing itself and all that???

It's your life, your back. Get a second opinion. Personally if I *could*
run, I would. Do you want to spend the rest of your life wondering if you
*could* have run? Given how little we know about the causes of back pain
and arthritis in general, I think your doctor is a bit out of line
dismissing running as inherently bad.

Good luck.

Tim

Pete said:

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> schreef:

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Bike.

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I do! I even got a $3.5K 'bent on account of doctor's orders (well,
sort -- he only said "recumbent," not "$3.5K"😉, but there's no
substitution for running!

Running stresses the knees, ankles, hips, and last but not least, back.

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A lot more beautiful girls jogging (mainly
walking -- LOL!)

I see your point.

Maybe now. Wait until he plays out his personality disorder a bit.
Your perspective may change.

Tim Downie said:

It's your life, your back. Get a second opinion. Personally if I *could*
run, I would. Do you want to spend the rest of your life wondering if you
*could* have run?

That's the dilemma...if I mess it up further -- and I really don't know
the "contours" of this situation -- I might wind up like old folks I
see who can't even sit or rise without assistance! On the other hand,
it's weird being *disabled* when I've still got my legs....

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Given how little we know about the causes of back pain
and arthritis in general, I think your doctor is a bit out of line
dismissing running as inherently bad.

That's what's so surprising. But it does make sense, in a way. I
dunno...I guess here's another area where evolution has yet to catch up
with everyday human reality!

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Good luck.

Thanks, you too!

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Tim

On 4 May 2006 04:48:32 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The sports doc told me NOT to do anymore running. NONE. Not until I
get some PT, then maybe a steroid injection (worst-case scenario,
surgery). My last vertebra is out of jelly -- no more shock gelatin in
there, I have a herniated disc, blah blah.

Hey stupidass, first go to rec.running and get advice, these idiots
know as much about running as Michael Jackson does about making love
to a woman. Then go to a chiroprctor.

Tim Downie said:

It's your life, your back. Get a second opinion. Personally if I *could*
run, I would. Do you want to spend the rest of your life wondering if you
*could* have run? Given how little we know about the causes of back pain
and arthritis in general, I think your doctor is a bit out of line
dismissing running as inherently bad.

Not only that, but of all the people with back problems who run, not
one, ever, on any NG, has said running hurt their back, or made it
worse. Ignore the quack, get out and run (on trails, not pavement).

Of course for these types of things, you need another expert opinion.
Someone who says, never run, is probably not the doctor for a runner. We
know runners don't all have bad backs.

In the meantime, find a cross trainer, an elliptical trainer, a bicycle,
a pool, and have fun.

NYC XYZ said:

Quoted message said:

Given how little we know about the causes of back pain
and arthritis in general, I think your doctor is a bit out of line
dismissing running as inherently bad.

That's what's so surprising. But it does make sense, in a way. I
dunno...I guess here's another area where evolution has yet to catch up
with everyday human reality!

I'm with Tim on this -- try to find another doctor.

Since you appear to be in NY (?) You might get some good leads on the NYRR website.

http://www.nyrrc.org/membership/membership_directory/profbus/pt.html
http://www.nyrrc.org/membership/membership_directory/profbus/sportsmedicine.html

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

On 4 May 2006 04:48:32 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The sports doc told me NOT to do anymore running. NONE. Not until I
get some PT, then maybe a steroid injection (worst-case scenario,
surgery). My last vertebra is out of jelly -- no more shock gelatin in
there, I have a herniated disc, blah blah.

A medical professional is considered "blah blah." by you? Have you at
least gotten a second opinion? Or is /this/ your second opinion -
cross-posting to eighteen Usenet newsgroups? Ooookay.

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I plan on doing no more than twice a week at half an hour
each...sounds good?

Hmm. The doc said "NONE." But do seek those additional opinions. I
read Rocky Bleier's Fighting Back years ago. It's still in my book
collection...

"Now try to imagine this. All the skin near the base of my first three
toes was laid open. He took those focreps, inserted them through that
opening, and reached them four inches into my foot, looking for more
broken bones. It hurt worse than anything the NVA had done. [...] He
said he thought, with therapy, I could learn to walk normally.

Another doc told him, "Rocky, you won't be able to play again. It's
impossible."

And from the cover: They said he might never walk again but in the
1975 Superbowl he ran to victory

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WTF!!!!!

Exactly.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/