Does Wearing two Old Suits slow me down?

yes there is considerable drag from loss suits. I work-out in board shorts to make my meet times
faster. "MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3mIeb.476245$Oz4.305962@rwcrnsc54...

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I have been wearing 2 very worn-out Speedo suits together for the last 2 months or more. I finally
started with a new suit this morning and I noticed my speed was faster. Is this increase in speed
based on
psychological or physical phenomena? The old suits are so thin that it is hard to believe they
could add about 40 seconds off my 500 split meter times.

Marianne

"MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3mIeb.476245$Oz4.305962@rwcrnsc54...

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I have been wearing 2 very worn-out Speedo suits together for the last 2 months or more. I finally
started with a new suit this morning and I noticed my speed was faster. Is this increase in speed
based on
psychological or physical phenomena? The old suits are so thin that it is hard to believe they
could add about 40 seconds off my 500 split meter times.

Yes. They add to drag. MAny swimmers wear couple suits in training, because it allows them to work
harder (add resistance), and build up the strength.

I have a drag suit that will add 20 seconds to my 100M time. It's older, kind of loose from chlorine
effect on lycra, and about a size too big by now.

This has got to be the case. Today, day #2 in my new suit, I did 8000 yds in just about 2 hours flat
(after about 45 minutes on the elliptical trainer and recumbant bike combined). I have not done that
in a while and certainly not while wearing 2 suits. At least I know even if the old suits cannot,
the old body can still do it.

Marianne

"DaKitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZCNeb.10626$gi2.4841@fed1read01...

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"MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3mIeb.476245$Oz4.305962@rwcrnsc54...

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I have been wearing 2 very worn-out Speedo suits together for the last 2 months or more. I
finally started with a new suit this morning and I noticed my speed was faster. Is this increase
in speed based on
psychological or physical phenomena? The old suits are so thin that it

is

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hard to believe they could add about 40 seconds off my 500 split meter times.

Yes. They add to drag. MAny swimmers wear couple suits in training, because it allows them to work
harder (add resistance), and build up the strength.

I have a drag suit that will add 20 seconds to my 100M time. It's older, kind of loose from
chlorine effect on lycra, and about a size too big by now.

Pretty cool, huh? To find out you're actually faster than you thought 😉 Yea, a lot of people on our
team use old suits to add drag, and make the workout harder. I'm not at that level yet. Maybe few
more months. Keep up the good work!

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This has got to be the case. Today, day #2 in my new suit, I did 8000 yds

in

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just about 2 hours flat (after about 45 minutes on the elliptical trainer and recumbant bike
combined). I have not done that in a while and

certainly

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not while wearing 2 suits. At least I know even if the old suits cannot,

the

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old body can still do it.

Marianne

"DaKitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZCNeb.10626$gi2.4841@fed1read01...

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"MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3mIeb.476245$Oz4.305962@rwcrnsc54...

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I have been wearing 2 very worn-out Speedo suits together for the last

2

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months or more. I finally started with a new suit this morning and I noticed my speed was
faster. Is this increase in speed based on
psychological or physical phenomena? The old suits are so thin that it

is

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hard to believe they could add about 40 seconds off my 500 split meter times.

Yes. They add to drag. MAny swimmers wear couple suits in training, because

it

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allows them to work harder (add resistance), and build up the strength.

I have a drag suit that will add 20 seconds to my 100M time. It's

older,

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kind of loose from chlorine effect on lycra, and about a size too big by now.

it does, but it's not a big affect

more you're going for the feeling change when wearing two suits and then going to one

the actual drag decrease is small. just like shaving down.

i wear 2 old suits because they are both loose and see-through and it would be a bit revealing only
wearing one !

"MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3mIeb.476245$Oz4.305962@rwcrnsc54...

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I have been wearing 2 very worn-out Speedo suits together for the last 2 months or more. I finally
started with a new suit this morning and I noticed my speed was faster. Is this increase in speed
based on
psychological or physical phenomena? The old suits are so thin that it is hard to believe they
could add about 40 seconds off my 500 split meter times.

Marianne

I get a 15-25 second slowdown on 100 free when wearing a drag suit. Especially the old ones, that
act like a parachute.

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it does, but it's not a big affect

more you're going for the feeling change when wearing two suits and then going to one

the actual drag decrease is small. just like shaving down.

i wear 2 old suits because they are both loose and see-through and it

would

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be a bit revealing only wearing one !

"MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3mIeb.476245$Oz4.305962@rwcrnsc54...

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I have been wearing 2 very worn-out Speedo suits together for the last 2 months or more. I
finally started with a new suit this morning and I noticed my speed was faster. Is this increase
in speed based on
psychological or physical phenomena? The old suits are so thin that it

is

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hard to believe they could add about 40 seconds off my 500 split meter times.

Marianne

it does slow you down. Some think that it helps you build strength. I think that it makes your hips
ride lower in the water while you swim. I do not think that this helps you when you race. Your body
position is totally different. Be it a small change, you will still have to adjust your stroke for
competition, which is not good.

Would you play tennis with a racket that weighs 10 pounds, then play matches with a normal racket?

Actually, you bring up a very good point. I would think this might also need to be asked with any
training devices then...pull bouys, fins, etc.?

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it does slow you down. Some think that it helps you build strength. I think that it makes your
hips ride lower in the water while you swim. I do not think that this helps you when you race.
Your body position is totally different. Be it a small change, you will still have to adjust your
stroke for competition, which is not good.

Would you play tennis with a racket that weighs 10 pounds, then play matches with a normal racket?

that's why there are different drills in swim training, that emphasize different muscles and
different details of a stroke.

To address your comment, on the day that we train race sets, we don't wear fins or pull buoys or
drag suits... The coach calls the workout type, and the equipment to use or not use, and the
specifics of what to concentrate on. Sometimes, short drills overemphasizing a particular detail of
a stroke, that we in general might be underemphasizing when just swimming, helps us 'remember' that
part later, and do it right.

That's a part of the reason that, generally speaking, swimmers who just do laps, instead of training
with a variety of drills and devices tend to progress slower, or plateau much sooner than those with
a variety of training drills.

"MSEagan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Kb3gb.502013$Oz4.354259@rwcrnsc54...

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Actually, you bring up a very good point. I would think this might also

need

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to be asked with any training devices then...pull bouys, fins, etc.?

"swim nut" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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it does slow you down. Some think that it helps you build strength. I think that it makes your
hips ride lower in the water while you swim. I do not think that this helps you when you race.
Your body position is totally different. Be it a small change, you will still have to adjust
your stroke for competition, which is not good.

Would you play tennis with a racket that weighs 10 pounds, then play matches with a normal
racket?