Dogs?

I've blasted a few with the Halt brand spray I cary, and it's always worked for me when I was able to anticipate the situation, and get ready. Otherwise, I just sprint, but the shouted command thing sounds like it may be worth a try (as an embellishment to sprinting, NOT as a substitute).

Many years ago, I got chased by a "pack" when cycling through a rural NY town. I didn't go for the Halt, and tried to outsprint them (I may have panicked because there were so many of them). I was having a tough time as I was packing 90+ pounds of gear at the time (excuse). Just when I thought the leader was going to get me, the whole pack turned, and began running away with what seemed like even more determination. That's when I saw they were being chased by what looked like a large white Siberian Husky. After driving them about 50 yards away, he turned back toward me, and since he approached in a non threatning manner, I let him come up alongside me. When last seen, the pack was heading for the next county at a high rate of speed. He trotted alongside me for the next mile or so until we cleared the town, so I pulled over and stopped and he did the same. There were no PowerBars back then, so I broke out one of the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches I was carying, and shared it with him. When I got up to leave he just sat there until I was a down the road a bit, then he headed back toward the town. I got the impression that he was failiar with this drill, possibly protecting his cyclist owner from similar onslaughts in the past. What a dog!

John

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running away with what seemed like even more determination. That's when I saw they were being
chased by what looked like a large white Siberian Husky. After driving them about 50 yards away, he
turned back toward me, and since he approached in a non threatning manner, I let him come up
alongside me. When last seen, the pack was heading for the next county

Aside from being beautiful, my understanding of that breed is:
- Very smart
- Not violent, especially towards humans
- Not loyal (too smart for blind devotion)

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at a high rate of speed. He trotted alongside me for the next mile or so until we cleared the town,
so I pulled over and stopped and he did the same. There were no PowerBars back then, so I broke out
one of the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches I was carying, and shared it with him. When I got up
to leave he just sat there until I was a down the road a bit, then he headed back toward the town.
I got the impression that he was failiar with this drill, possibly protecting his cyclist owner
from similar onslaughts in the past. What a dog!

Maybe not necessarily his owner, but other cyclists like yourself, even.

I just don't know why the pack of angry dogs was afraid of this one husky; they're very
snuggly-looking, I've never seen one even try to look mean.

The think you may read about them is that they're terrible guard dogs, as if somebody breaks into
your house, the Siberian Husky will probably just greet him happily and show him where your
valuables are...

I still want one. I really, really hate the noisy yapping ankle biters my gf has.

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John

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Aside from being beautiful, my understanding of that breed is:
- Very smart
- Not violent, especially towards humans
- Not loyal (too smart for blind devotion)

All true. A good reason to keep them on the leash is they are bred to run and, lacking the one
person attachment many dogs have, often don't return home. I had my 1st Siberian for 12 years and am
now have a pair of puppies. Great dogs if you can deal with their unique view on life.

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I just don't know why the pack of angry dogs was afraid of this one husky; they're very
snuggly-looking, I've never seen one even try to look mean.

Just live with them long enough and see the look on their face when they fight with other animals.
Many Siberians assume they are the Alpha dog in all group encounters and that "I own you" posture
seems to make most other dogs run for cover. I have seen it time and again with my late female,
Kasha. Ever seen nature shows with wolves fighting over a carcas? That's the look.

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The think you may read about them is that they're terrible guard dogs, as if somebody breaks into
your house, the Siberian Husky will probably just greet him happily and show him where your
valuables are...

I still want one. I really, really hate the noisy yapping ankle biters my gf has.

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John

Read up on the breed. They are not "normal" dogs and seem much closer to wolves with their strong
pack mentality. I would not own anything else. I just wish they could be trusted off lead so they
could mt. bike with me.

Tim McTeague

reminds me of a quote....

"Q: How do you tell if a siberian is playing or fighting?
A: Less blood."

Seriously though, once you rescue a siberian from 2 pit bulls they have more respect / loyalty and
are more apt to stick around. The other day we ran into a pack (3) of coyotes. Calling him made
little difference. They all took off into a thicket and the what was surprising was the silence!
Then he came prancing out towards me and the coyotes went in the opposite direction. Goodness knows
how he got the spit on his ear and he stuck pretty close to me after the encounter, but kept
glancing back.

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Read up on the breed. They are not "normal" dogs and seem much closer to wolves with their strong
pack mentality. I would not own anything else. I just wish they could be trusted off lead so they
could mt. bike with me.

Tim McTeague

Yeah, I know what you mean. However, my worry is by the time my Siberians gave up the chase they
could be miles away from me. I am jealous of riders who bike with their dog by their side. Not
enough to make me buy a Lab mind you!

Tim McTeague

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reminds me of a quote....

"Q: How do you tell if a siberian is playing or fighting?
A: Less blood."

Seriously though, once you rescue a siberian from 2 pit bulls they have more respect / loyalty and
are more apt to stick around. The other day we ran into a pack (3) of coyotes. Calling him made
little difference. They all took off into a thicket and the what was surprising was the silence!
Then he came prancing out towards me and the coyotes went in the opposite direction. Goodness
knows how he got the spit on his ear and he stuck pretty close to me after the encounter, but kept
glancing back.

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They are alot of work. But sometimes they can make a noise that sounds remarkably like "I love you"

take care Liz

Hey! Look what Rick Onanian <[email hidden]> wrote :

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Aside from being beautiful, my understanding of that breed is:
- Very smart
- Not violent, especially towards humans
- Not loyal (too smart for blind devotion)

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The think you may read about them is that they're terrible guard dogs, as if somebody breaks into
your house, the Siberian Husky will probably just greet him happily and show him where your
valuables are...

I still want one. I really, really hate the noisy yapping ankle biters my gf has.

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Ammonia in a bike bottle might work. Dilute as much as you want.

I tried it once, or at least started to, but my aim was poor and my test was inconclusive.

my solution to chasing dogs is to chase them. I ride an MTB. any dog that chases me will get an
immediate lesson in just how fast I can chase HIM, over any terrain (just about).

The theory is simple. Dogs chase cars/bikes becasue they are defending their territory. The run out
and bark at the car and it goes away. Successfull defence of territory, so they do it next time.

My theory is to use their own mindset against them, slow down, turn, come back for them, chase em up
the sidewalk, around the tree, etc etc, till they go back onto their property. When they are back on
their property, stop and stand macho and look at them for about 30 seconds. That way they have NOT
successfully defended. Some require 2 lessons (-:

Case history. White German Shepard that lives 4 houses down the street. Last summer it left me alone
after one chase session. Over winter I didn't ride much and it forgot. I retaught it about 4 weeks
back. Tuesday my wife was leading as we went down the street for a training ride (she only just
started so the dog doesn't know her). White dog comes out to chase her, sees me coming behind, and
slinks back home. No barking. Wife commented on it with much laughing. She is a professional dog
trainer and groomer.

swarf, steam and wind

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The theory is simple. Dogs chase cars/bikes becasue they are defending their territory. The run out
and bark at the car and it goes away. Successfull defence of territory, so they do it next time.

My theory is to use their own mindset against them, slow down, turn, come back for them, chase em
up the sidewalk, around the tree, etc etc, till they go back onto their property. When they are
back on their property, stop and stand macho and look at them for about 30 seconds. That way they
have NOT successfully defended. Some require 2 lessons (-:

I tried that with a goose once. Never again. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet, that crazy critter
would've cleaned my clock. As it was, it left cuts and bruises on my back and shoulders.
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turn, come back for them, chase em up the sidewalk, around the

I tried that with a goose once. Never again. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet, that crazy critter
would've cleaned my clock. As it was, it left cuts and bruises on my back and shoulders.

aye, geese are a different kettle of fish, they don't have the brains to have psychology

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That is why we have the big frame pumps that go under the top tube. The best ones are those with two
sided heads on them. The shrader head for big dogs (and geese) and the presta side for small ones...

:-)

Steve Sloan [email hidden]

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The theory is simple. Dogs chase cars/bikes becasue they are defending their territory. The
run out and bark at the car and it goes away. Successfull defence of territory, so they do it
next time.

My theory is to use their own mindset against them, slow down, turn, come back for them, chase em
up the sidewalk, around the tree, etc etc, till they go back onto their property. When they are
back on their property, stop and stand macho and look at them for about 30 seconds. That way they
have NOT successfully defended. Some require 2 lessons (-:

I tried that with a goose once. Never again. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet, that crazy critter
would've cleaned my clock. As it was, it left cuts and bruises on my back and shoulders.
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(Pete Cresswell) <[email hidden]> scribed in <[email hidden]>:

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turn, come back for them, chase em up the sidewalk, around the

I tried that with a goose once. Never again. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet, that crazy critter
would've cleaned my clock. As it was, it left cuts and bruises on my back and shoulders.

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deJaVU wrote: aye, geese are a different kettle of fish, they don't have the brains to have
psychology

swarf, steam and wind

I don't see any geese being run over by cars....

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That is why we have the big frame pumps that go under the top tube. The best ones are those with
two sided heads on them. The shrader head for

big

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dogs (and geese) and the presta side for small ones...

:-)

Yeah, tried that on my pump - pump extended for those short dogs, pushed together for the bigger
brutes Hugh Fenton