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  1. You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the moment,
    apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA. Though with sterling logic, not legal to
    be drunk and drive.

    This link carries much of what they are saying on the BBC.

    dpeg.orgmontana open container.htm

    two quotes from the above.

    Quoted message said:

    Vandaele, 68, is a retired refrigerator repairman, a lifelong Montanan and self-described
    "regular guy." He has sipped and steered his entire adult life and says he doesn't plan to
    change.

    "I'm driving home from the lake. It's hot. I pop a beer. As long as I'm not drunk, what's wrong
    with that?" Vandaele says. He's never hurt anybody. There was the night in 1968, coming home from
    a Christmas party, where he got a DUI, but even then, he says, he was never out of control. At
    least not that he remembers.

    ...........

    Montana, Wyoming and Mississippi are the only states with no federally approved law prohibiting
    the practice, and, not coincidentally, these states have among the highest numbers of per capita
    traffic fatalities involving alcohol.

    peoples abilities to switch of from reality really amazes and scares me!

    Fragg

  2. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> "Fraggle" == Fraggle <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the
    moment, apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA.

    AFAIK it's legal to drink and drive in the UK. It's just not legal to drive with a blood alcohol
    level over a certain amount or to be "drunk" when driving.

  3. "Paul Rudin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>> "Fraggle" == Fraggle <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the
    moment, apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA.

    AFAIK it's legal to drink and drive in the UK. It's just not legal to drive with a blood alcohol
    level over a certain amount or to be "drunk" when driving.

    Since people have been stopped and charged with something for eating a Kit Kat at the wheel I
    suspect the same would apply to taking a stiff slug of whisky.

    That said, in much of America you will see people eating burgers & fries and swilling coffee
    while driving.

    Don't McDo's now have a health warning on their coffee saying its hot after some stupid bugger
    scalded his wedding tackle then sued them for serving hot coffee.

    Mad -- thy are all mad.

    T

  4. Tony W said:

    "Paul Rudin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>>"Fraggle" == Fraggle <[email hidden]> writes:
    >>>
    You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the
    moment, apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA.

    AFAIK it's legal to drink and drive in the UK. It's just not legal to drive with a blood alcohol
    level over a certain amount or to be "drunk" when driving.

    Since people have been stopped and charged with something for eating a Kit Kat at the wheel I
    suspect the same would apply to taking a stiff slug of whisky.

    Have they? Is there a law against eating and driving?

    I suppose it could be considered under the banner of Driving without Due Care and attention but I
    don' think there's a specific law.

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    Michael Calwell

  5. Fraggle said:

    You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the moment,
    apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA. Though with sterling logic, not legal to
    be drunk and drive.

    This link carries much of what they are saying on the BBC.

    dpeg.orgmontana open container.htm

    two quotes from the above.

    I believe it's legal to drink while driving here as well. As long as you're not over the limit
    you're not breaking any laws, but you probably could be done for not being in proper control.

    Mind you, you'd be asking to get stopped if you were.
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    'spam' with 'ben' to reply *****

  6. Michael Calwell said:

    Tony W wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Since people have been stopped and charged with something for eating a Kit Kat at the wheel I
    suspect the same would apply to taking a stiff slug of whisky.

    Have they? Is there a law against eating and driving?

    People have been stopped for a variety of such things, even down to drinking from a bottle of water
    while stopped at the lights. Whichever law it is does /not/ apply to Plod though, as the ones round
    here are frequently to be seen guzzling from big paper cups marked "Macdonalds" while tooling around
    in their Poxhall Astras.

    Crunts.

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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  7. "Michael Calwell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Have they?

    Yes -- there was some ballyhoo in the press a while back.

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a law against eating and driving?

    I do not know which law plod used. Possibly the same one they use when you have a mobile phone
    clamped to your ear.

    Quoted message said:

    I suppose it could be considered under the banner of Driving without Due Care and attention but I
    don' think there's a specific law.

    IANAL.

    T

  8. Michael Calwell said:

    Have they? Is there a law against eating and driving?

    Typical UK - there's a law against almost anything, or one that can be stretched to apply. As they
    aren't used much, we've not yet felt the massed urge to drag Blunkett away in a tumbril. But when
    Plod feels like it, almost anything can be used as a lever.

  9. Tony W said:

    "Paul Rudin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>> "Fraggle" == Fraggle <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the
    moment, apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA.

    AFAIK it's legal to drink and drive in the UK. It's just not legal to drive with a blood alcohol
    level over a certain amount or to be "drunk" when driving.

    Since people have been stopped and charged with something for eating a Kit Kat at the wheel I
    suspect the same would apply to taking a stiff slug of whisky.

    Any task you try to perform whilst driving could potentially be driving without due care and
    attention, but that doesn't mean that ingesting food or liquid whilst driving necessarily
    constitutes such.

    Anyway, the point is that there's no specific offence (as far as I know) of drinking alcohol whilst
    driving; in contrast to certain states of the US. In some states I think it's even an offence to
    have alcohol in the car with you - you've got to transport it in the "trunk".

  10. Dave Larrington said:

    People have been stopped for a variety of such things, even down to drinking from a bottle of
    water while stopped at the lights.

    Although in the particular case that generated a lot of publicity, the definition of stopped seemed
    to be a little elastic. Started to take a drink from a bottle while stopped at the lights may have
    been a more accurate description, was my impression.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  11. Tony W said:

    Don't McDo's now have a health warning on their coffee saying its hot after some stupid bugger
    scalded his wedding tackle then sued them for serving hot coffee.

    I don't think Stella Liebeck had the sort of wedding tackle you're thinking of:
    stellaawards.comstella.html

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    Danny Colyer (remove safety to reply) ( juggler.netdanny ) Recumbent cycle page:
    speedy5.freeserve.co.ukrecumbents "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -
    Thomas Paine

  12. "Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony W said:

    Don't McDo's now have a health warning on their coffee saying its hot after some stupid bugger
    scalded his wedding tackle then sued them for serving hot coffee.

    I don't think Stella Liebeck had the sort of wedding tackle you're thinking of:
    stellaawards.comstella.html

    : )

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, Tony W <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    "Paul Rudin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>> "Fraggle" == Fraggle <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    You think we in the UK have problems with motorists. BBC news is running a story at the
    moment, apparently it is legal to drink and drive in Montana USA.

    AFAIK it's legal to drink and drive in the UK. It's just not legal to drive with a blood alcohol
    level over a certain amount or to be "drunk" when driving.

    Since people have been stopped and charged with something for eating a Kit Kat at the wheel I
    suspect the same would apply to taking a stiff slug of whisky.

    That said, in much of America you will see people eating burgers & fries and swilling coffee
    while driving.

    Don't McDo's now have a health warning on their coffee saying its hot after some stupid bugger
    scalded his wedding tackle then sued them for serving hot coffee.

    Mad -- thy are all mad.

    T


    My favourite was a number of years ago in Phoenix Arizona where a woman with a carful of kids passed
    us, she was knitting as she drove along.

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    Remove crude Spam trap to reply.

    Peter Grange

  14. In message <[email hidden]>, Peter Grange
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    My favourite was a number of years ago in Phoenix Arizona where a woman with a carful of kids
    passed us, she was knitting as she drove along.


    I've seen a woman doing that on the M4, though she wasn't exactly driving along since the traffic
    wasn't moving.
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    Sue ]🙁🙂

  15. In article said:


    Don't McDo's now have a health warning on their coffee saying its hot after some stupid bugger
    scalded his wedding tackle then sued them for serving hot coffee.

    It was a woman who was burnt badly enough to need skin grafts, and she wasn't driving (and the car
    wasn't even moving at the time).

    caoc.comfacts.htm

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