Drug "build-up" time?

<[email hidden]> schreef:

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I have recently become convinced that regardless of the steroid used
that it usually takes around 3wks for the drug in question to
"build-up" and begin working in the desired way.

That is true for the oil based injectables, or anything else with a
relatively long half-life for that matter.
But that problem is solved very easily;

Let us say you weant to do a cycle of 750mg test/week. The 1st 2 weeks, you
inject 1500mg instead of 750.
The last 4 weeks, you inject 500mg. This way, you "fattened out" the curve.
Blood concentration levels are "steady" from the word go, comparable with
the 3th week of the usual weekly injections of 750mg

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Maybe this is "old
news" to Pete and others w/ more exp. than I have. As I've been
posting I've been using a homebrew injectable version of
Methandrostenolone commmonly known as Dianabol or Dbol. It's taken
almost 3wks for the drug to "build-up" to clearly a noticeable level
and begin causing the usual water retention & slight insomnia.

I cannot imagine that a substance such as methandienone takes weeks to get a
steady level...
But i could be wrong, of course.
But if you suspect that such a thing occurs, double the dosage the first 2
weeks, and go a little lower the last 4.

I apply this principle when i take Clomid (its half live is aprox. 4 days)
Do NOT do this with HCG 😉

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Pete

Pete the Google steroid info source as I stated earlier I do not
pretend to know anywhere near as much as U obviously do re: steroids.
For the first 10 days or so I only injected .5cc (30mg/cc) like 2x so
THAT would explain it's delay. I simply was not injecting enuff drug
for it do what's reputed to do. Now that I'm using approx. 25mg/day
it's hitting me pretty good.

I take it from ur post ur big fan of FRONTLOADING??? I will def do
that from now on. I've read lately that all the BS re: Dbol being SOO
hard on ur liver is just that BS. It is harsh yes but nowhere near ur
fave Anadrol...according to one source I read w/ med doc. to back it's
claims up.

Once again Pete I thank you for ur info! U need ur one freakin Google
steroid info group!!!

<[email hidden]> schreef:

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I take it from ur post ur big fan of FRONTLOADING???

ONLY when long lasting esters are used.
And again, i doubt if that is the case with methandienone.

When you take a [censored] of Dianabol the first 2 weeks, you will get a VERY
high level of androgens the first few weeks, followed by a sharp cut-off.
With the oil-based injectables that is NOT the case:
Levels will become more steady and the curve is flattened.

AFAIK, the half is just 6 hours, just as oxymetholone.
Wheter or not the fact that you inject it will change its half-life is
something i do not know.

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I will def do
that from now on. I've read lately that all the BS re: Dbol being SOO
hard on ur liver is just that BS. It is harsh yes but nowhere near ur
fave Anadrol...

Both are 17-A steroids, which make them toxic, but also very effective.

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according to one source I read w/ med doc. to back it's
claims up.

Still, it would not hurt to have your liver checked every now and then.
Ever done that?

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Once again Pete I thank you for ur info! U need ur one freakin Google
steroid info group!!!

Nahhh... not really.
You should have been here several years ago, when PA and Roberts were still
around.

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Pete

Pete said:

<[email hidden]> schreef:

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I take it from ur post ur big fan of FRONTLOADING???

ONLY when long lasting esters are used.
And again, i doubt if that is the case with methandienone.

When you take a [censored] of Dianabol the first 2 weeks, you will get a VERY
high level of androgens the first few weeks, followed by a sharp cut-off.
With the oil-based injectables that is NOT the case:
Levels will become more steady and the curve is flattened.

AFAIK, the half is just 6 hours, just as oxymetholone.
Wheter or not the fact that you inject it will change its half-life is
something i do not know.

I think it's pharmacologically impossible to chemically change a drug's
half life just becuz it's been IM injected. I do think, however, that
the fact that once the drug is deep w/in muscle tissue it physically
takes M U C H longer for 100% of it reach the bloodstream. Whereas w/
an oral the entire amt which survives digestion is basially dumped into
the bloodstream at once. There are currently drugs which are specially
coated and altered to be SRT (sustained release time) but I don't think
any UGL or legit pharm co. is using that technology w/ any mass
produced steroid except for test. pellets.

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I will def do
that from now on. I've read lately that all the BS re: Dbol being SOO
hard on ur liver is just that BS. It is harsh yes but nowhere near ur
fave Anadrol...

Both are 17-A steroids, which make them toxic, but also very effective.

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according to one source I read w/ med doc. to back it's
claims up.

Still, it would not hurt to have your liver checked every now and then.
Ever done that? No, once my eyes turn YELLOW i sure will tho. Ha ha ha.

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Once again Pete I thank you for ur info! U need ur one freakin Google
steroid info group!!!

Nahhh... not really.
You should have been here several years ago, when PA and Roberts were still
around.

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Pete

<[email hidden]> schreef:

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I think it's pharmacologically impossible to chemically change a drug's
half life just becuz it's been IM injected. I do think, however, that
the fact that once the drug is deep w/in muscle tissue it physically
takes M U C H longer for 100% of it reach the bloodstream.

Yes, but that is the same as Stombaject (injectable stanozolol/Winstrol)
Those crystals might hang in the glutues for a few days, but when they DO
hit the bloodstream they dissapear very quickly. So frontloading might not
be such a good idea...

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Whereas w/
an oral the entire amt which survives digestion is basially dumped into
the bloodstream at once. There are currently drugs which are specially
coated and altered to be SRT (sustained release time) but I don't think
any UGL or legit pharm co. is using that technology w/ any mass
produced steroid except for test. pellets.

Andriol uses the lymphatic system. Oxandrolone is delivered in a slightly
different way then Dbol/oxo/Halo, etc...

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Still, it would not hurt to have your liver checked every now and then.
Ever done that?

**No, once my eyes turn YELLOW i sure will tho. Ha ha ha.**

Okay.

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Pete

I am doin .5cc ED injects for now....so far so good. This seems like
it keeps the blood levels more stable, altho I do wanna EOD's w/ 1cc
for a couple of weeks.