Easily accessible wild camp in Lakes

"John Armstrong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A friend of mine has suggested going camping one of the
upcoming bank holiday weekends, with a preference of not
stopping on a campsite. Normally, I would go for the usual
recommendations of getting up to a higher level before
pitching camp. As a complication though, there will be a 3
year old with us, who would be likely to none too keen on
a long distance walk. Anyone have any suggestions for a
suitable inconspicuous spot to pitch a tent that is
either: a short walk from somewhere to park or a longer
walk from somewhere to park, but pushchair friendly most
of the way

I am guessing that wooded areas are more likely, but a
view in the morning would be nice. South lakes preferred,
but will travel to suitable spot in North lakes.

Depends on what you mean by camping! If you don't take the
kitchen sink and are prepared to pitch late, depart early
no problems.

If you pitch out of the way!

I'd suggest don't bother, just pay the camp fees and have
done with it.

Wild "true" campers have more than enough problems,
nowadays:-(
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RV

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Anyone have any suggestions for a suitable inconspicuous
spot to pitch a tent that is either: a short walk from
somewhere to park or a longer walk from somewhere to park,
but pushchair friendly most of the way

You're taking a 3 yr old in a pushchair? Unless the child is
incapable of walking I'd have thought he or she would be
better off carrying his/her own things in a small backpack
and striding off with the rest of the party. That's what my
young daughter (just turned 4) does, and it makes her feel
as though she's part of things. In fact, she gets quite
cross if she doesn't have her own backpack in which she can
carry her own underwear, change of clothes and toothbrush.
It's not a lot, but it makes a fair bit of difference to the
amount the rest of us have to lug around. Just a thought...
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Anyone have any suggestions for a suitable inconspicuous
spot to pitch a tent that is either: a short walk from
somewhere to park or a longer walk from somewhere to
park, but pushchair friendly most of the way

You're taking a 3 yr old in a pushchair? Unless the child
is incapable of walking I'd have thought he or she would
be better off carrying his/her own things in a small
backpack and striding off with the rest of the party.
That's what my young daughter (just turned 4) does, and it
makes her feel as though she's part of things. In fact,
she gets quite cross if she doesn't have her own backpack
in which she can carry her own underwear, change of
clothes and toothbrush. It's not a lot, but it makes a
fair bit of difference to the amount the rest of us have
to lug around. Just a thought...

She does walk, but the change from happy to be walking along
to tired and wanting to be carried or pushed can be quick.
She has walked a few miles with us before, then fell fast
asleep in the pushchair for half an hour. If the pushchair
went along, she wouldn't actually be in it most of the time,
but I wouldn't like to get a few miles from start, few miles
from destination then have to carry her + her things + my
things + the tent.

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Fran said:

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Anyone have any suggestions for a suitable inconspicuous
spot to pitch a tent that is either: a short walk from
somewhere to park or a longer walk from somewhere to
park, but pushchair friendly most of the way

You're taking a 3 yr old in a pushchair? Unless the child
is incapable of walking I'd have thought he or she would
be better off carrying his/her own things in a small
backpack and striding off with the rest of the party.
That's what my young daughter (just turned 4) does, and
it makes her feel as though she's part of things. In
fact, she gets quite cross if she doesn't have her own
backpack in which she can carry her own underwear, change
of clothes and toothbrush. It's not a lot, but it makes a
fair bit of difference to the amount the rest of us have
to lug around. Just a thought...

She does walk, but the change from happy to be walking
along to tired and wanting to be carried or pushed can be
quick. She has walked a few miles with us before, then fell
fast asleep in the pushchair for half an hour. If the
pushchair went along, she wouldn't actually be in it most
of the time, but I wouldn't like to get a few miles from
start, few miles from destination then have to carry her +
her things + my things + the tent.

Give her food! Our experience is that the change from being
happy walking to being miserable is often caused by hunger
that the child does not realise. However, if a three year
old is with you the nature of the walk needs to be set in
accordance with this. Learn to enjoy shorter walks and
accept a slower pace! Someone on this group a few years back
came up with the mantra of a mile for each year of age. I
rather looked down on it at the time - all right for the
weeds, but my Timothy was made of sterner stuff! However, it
has proved a very useful rule since and while Tim has
usually been able to exceed the figure, and do height as an
extra, it has marked the point at which a walk tends to move
from fun to misery.

Oh bugger. Lecture mode off. What about the issue in hand?
There's a very nice small lakeside campsite on the far bank
of Ullswater along the path that skirts Place Fell. It has
the feel of a wild camp; it has a lake and woods to enjoy
and pleasant walking around. I've never stayed there and
know no more about it than having seen it in passing but it
strikes me as an ideal sort of site for your particular
requirements.

--
Michael Farthing cyclades Software House

Michael Farthing said:

Give her food! Our experience is that the change from
being happy walking to being miserable is often caused by
hunger that the child does not realise. However, if a
three year old is with you the nature of the walk needs to
be set in accordance with this. Learn to enjoy shorter
walks and accept a slower pace! Someone on this group a
few years back came up with the mantra of a mile for each
year of age. I rather looked down on it at the time - all
right for the weeds, but my Timothy was made of sterner
stuff! However, it has proved a very useful rule since and
while Tim has usually been able to exceed the figure, and
do height as an extra, it has marked the point at which a
walk tends to move from fun to misery.

She isn't my child, so I am just going from observations
from when we have done things together. Will remember the
mile/year thing for future planning though.

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Oh bugger. Lecture mode off. What about the issue in hand?
There's a very nice small lakeside campsite on the far
bank of Ullswater along the path that skirts Place Fell.
It has the feel of a wild camp; it has a lake and woods to
enjoy and pleasant walking around. I've never stayed there
and know no more about it than having seen it in passing
but it strikes me as an ideal sort of site for your
particular requirements.

Thanks, will have a look (half way between Blowick and
Rooking?). Was looking at a wild camp rather than campsite,
as we didn't want to end up in a field of cars + tents
rather than doing it as a money saving exercise. Also nice
to be able to sit and have a drink talking into the night
without disturbing anyone.

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Thanks, will have a look (half way between Blowick and
Rooking?).

Yes.

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Was looking at a wild camp rather than campsite, as we
didn't want to end up in a field of cars + tents rather
than doing it as a money saving exercise. Also nice to be
able to sit and have a drink talking into the night without
disturbing anyone.

Indeed, I realised your aims. The suggestion was intended as
a compromise. As I said, I haven't used the site, but its
quite spread out and I think you could choose a pitch that's
reasonably private (indeed you'd virtually have to). Unless
you're planning on loud music or achieving a level of
inebriation inappropriate to your duties as guardians of the
young I wouldn't think you'd disturb anyone else - certainly
not before you'd managed to wake the three year old!

There is another point for a first expedition. The child
(time she had a name) might actually not take to the
situation. I first tried to camp in the garden with Timothy
(aged 3/4 I think) and he was very enthusiastic about this
adventure. But come the dark (and after perhaps inadvisedly
reading him some of The Hobbit) he became quite frightened
by it all and we abandoned the venture. There might be
something to be said for being a bit less remote.

--
Michael Farthing cyclades Software House

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There's a very nice small lakeside campsite on the far
bank of Ullswater along the path that skirts Place Fell.

Side Farm (unless there is more than one). I haven't stayed
there for 20 years or more so cannot recall any details.

--
Roger Looking North over the Aire Valley (and Marley
Gasworks) to Rombolds Moor Top Posters killfiled on sight

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Someone on this group a few years back came up with the
mantra of a mile for each year of age.

Eeek! /me collapses
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There is another point for a first expedition. The child
(time she had a name) might actually not take to the
situation. I first tried to camp in the garden with
Timothy (aged 3/4 I think) and he was very enthusiastic
about this adventure. But come the dark (and after
perhaps inadvisedly reading him some of The Hobbit) he
became quite frightened by it all and we abandoned the
venture. There might be something to be said for being a
bit less remote.

I remember my two older children camping out in the garden,
and their younger brother wanting to sleep out there with
them. His reaction was very similar to Timothy's, and he
(Thomas) was nearer 7 at the time. That said, it may have
been just because he was only with his siblings at that
time; he was fine with us when we were in the adjacent tent.
Actually, now I come to think of it, I think my younger
boys' first real experience of camping was the New Year
Beacons expedition with this NG. Not so much a baptism of
fire as one of ice and snow!
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Fran If you need my email address please ask.

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Someone on this group a few years back came up with the
mantra of a mile for each year of age.

Eeek! /me collapses

Is there a formula somewhere that advocates taking off a
mile per year after a certain age ?...:-)
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Someone on this group a few years back came up with the
mantra of a mile for each year of age.

Eeek! /me collapses

Is there a formula somewhere that advocates taking off a
mile per year after a certain age ?...:-)

Let's hope so!
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Fran If you need my email address please ask.

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Is there a formula somewhere that advocates taking off a
mile per year after a certain age ?...:-)

Let's hope so!

If we wait much longer you'll be carrying me in Emily'
papoose :-)
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Is there a formula somewhere that advocates taking off
a mile per year after a certain age ?...:-)

Let's hope so!

If we wait much longer you'll be carrying me in Emily'
papoose :-)

Erk!! There's a lot to be said for 4x4 wheelchairs...
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