Eat More--Lose More?

"Mark Filice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've been limiting my carb intake since early August. My blood test showed
elevated tryglicerides and my glucose level was high enough that he warned
me
that he would have to put me on medication if it didn't drop.

He mentioned Metabolic Syndrome X--and suggested that I see the clinic
dietician. He knows me pretty well, and said I could also find books about
Syndrome X and do it myself. He scheduled me for a retest in 6 weeks.

I bought 3 books, and started LCing. I eliminated all the dense carbs
(potatoes,
rice, bread, etc). No sodas or beer anymore. Breakfast is a couple of eggs
and
some cheese. Dinner is meat/vegetable/salad. Most of the time I skip lunch
at
work.

I lost 25 lbs. in 6 weeks. My blood results were approaching normal, and
the
doctor is pretty happy. He wants me to retest in 3 months.

I slowed down on the weight loss--7 lbs. over the next 4 weeks.

Yesterday, I attended a seminar for work. They had the pastry/fruit
offerings
for breakfast and I skipped that (I had eaten at home). For the buffet
lunch, I
had a salad, sliced pork, sliced roast beef, and asparagus. I don't
normally eat
lunch. I ate my normal dinner.

This morning I stepped on the scale and lost 4 lbs! I'm wondering if I
should
start eating lunch every day--to lose more weight!

Why do you associate that 4 lb drop with the extra lunch yesterday and not
the absence of lunch over the previous 4 weeks?
Seems rather an odd way to think, huh?

Quoted message said:

Anyone else experience this?

BTW, I am going to eat a salad with chicken today to test this out.

Your body, your science experiment!

Mark Filice said:

I've been limiting my carb intake since early August. My blood test showed
elevated tryglicerides and my glucose level was high enough that he warned me
that he would have to put me on medication if it didn't drop.

He mentioned Metabolic Syndrome X--and suggested that I see the clinic
dietician. He knows me pretty well, and said I could also find books about
Syndrome X and do it myself. He scheduled me for a retest in 6 weeks.

I bought 3 books, and started LCing. I eliminated all the dense carbs (potatoes,
rice, bread, etc). No sodas or beer anymore. Breakfast is a couple of eggs and
some cheese. Dinner is meat/vegetable/salad. Most of the time I skip lunch at
work.

I lost 25 lbs. in 6 weeks. My blood results were approaching normal, and the
doctor is pretty happy. He wants me to retest in 3 months.

I slowed down on the weight loss--7 lbs. over the next 4 weeks.

Congrats on the fantastic results!

Quoted message said:

Yesterday, I attended a seminar for work. They had the pastry/fruit offerings
for breakfast and I skipped that (I had eaten at home). For the buffet lunch, I
had a salad, sliced pork, sliced roast beef, and asparagus. I don't normally eat
lunch. I ate my normal dinner.

This morning I stepped on the scale and lost 4 lbs! I'm wondering if I should
start eating lunch every day--to lose more weight!

Anyone else experience this?

BTW, I am going to eat a salad with chicken today to test this out.

You can't tell from one day to the next what caused weight loss. People
think they can and wind up drawing silly conclusions.

If you do *nothing* your weight fluctuates a few lbs day-to-day anyway,
due to changes in water, amount of contents in your GI tract, etc.

To really see a difference, you need to do something for a couple weeks
before drawing conclusions about how well it works or doesn't. Unless
you're female, in which case you really need to chech on a monthly basis.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

Roger Zoul said:

"Mark Filice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've been limiting my carb intake since early August. My blood test showed
elevated tryglicerides and my glucose level was high enough that he warned
me
that he would have to put me on medication if it didn't drop.

Quoted message said:

He mentioned Metabolic Syndrome X--and suggested that I see the clinic
dietician. He knows me pretty well, and said I could also find books about
Syndrome X and do it myself. He scheduled me for a retest in 6 weeks.

Quoted message said:

I bought 3 books, and started LCing. I eliminated all the dense carbs
(potatoes,
rice, bread, etc). No sodas or beer anymore. Breakfast is a couple of eggs
and
some cheese. Dinner is meat/vegetable/salad. Most of the time I skip lunch
at
work.

Quoted message said:

I lost 25 lbs. in 6 weeks. My blood results were approaching normal, and
the
doctor is pretty happy. He wants me to retest in 3 months.

Quoted message said:

I slowed down on the weight loss--7 lbs. over the next 4 weeks.

Quoted message said:

Yesterday, I attended a seminar for work. They had the pastry/fruit
offerings
for breakfast and I skipped that (I had eaten at home). For the buffet
lunch, I
had a salad, sliced pork, sliced roast beef, and asparagus. I don't
normally eat
lunch. I ate my normal dinner.

Quoted message said:

This morning I stepped on the scale and lost 4 lbs! I'm wondering if I
should
start eating lunch every day--to lose more weight!

Why do you associate that 4 lb drop with the extra lunch yesterday and not
the absence of lunch over the previous 4 weeks?
Seems rather an odd way to think, huh?

Good point. It would be nice if your body reacted with impunity every
time you ate or declined a doughnut, but it has to sort through all
kinds of chemical reactions before it ultimately decides what to do
about you.

If I drink a light beer, I lose weight the next day. Four days later I
will be up three pounds before the needle drifts back down again.

I've also noticed this with diet bread. Eat the bread, nothing
happens, I'm fine. Four days later, I'm up two pounds. With regular
bread on a regular basis I can put on twenty pounds, say, in a month
-- but it might take ten days to start showing up in my

But if I were you, I wouldn't skip lunch. It often has cheeseburgers
in it.

c
ran into one today as a matter of fact

Mark Filice said:

Anyone else experience this?

Not that exactly, but sort of. Last January, I had stalled mostly. I
started with
five meals a day (and cardio intervals) and lost about 1.5 lbs a week
for about
6-7 weeks. I think you're looking at too small a sample size to
figure,
but your experiment seems like a good idea. Men's Health would
approve.

Think: Thermic effect of eating.

In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Zoul says...

Quoted message said:

Why do you associate that 4 lb drop with the extra lunch yesterday and not
the absence of lunch over the previous 4 weeks?
Seems rather an odd way to think, huh?

I dunno. That is why I asked the question.

I added lunch to my food intake yesterday and lost another 2 lbs when I weighed
this AM. Either I am coming out of a stall or there is something to this lunch
thing.

Mark
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than
to open it and remove all doubt."
--Mark Twain

Mark Filice said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Roger Zoul says...

Quoted message said:

Why do you associate that 4 lb drop with the extra lunch yesterday and not
the absence of lunch over the previous 4 weeks?
Seems rather an odd way to think, huh?

I dunno. That is why I asked the question.

I added lunch to my food intake yesterday and lost another 2 lbs when I weighed
this AM. Either I am coming out of a stall or there is something to this lunch
thing.

Mark
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than
to open it and remove all doubt."
--Mark Twain

Hey --

I don't know your history, whether you're diabetic or not, etc. But it
could just have to do with eating more frequent meals. The Class of
2003 Lowcarb school taught that eating was actually a good thing for
weight loss because it mobilized you metabolism to do stuff with the
food. As long as you keep insulin out of it, Class of 2003 said,
moving food around burns calories and revs up your fatburning
hormones.

I started literally shrinking when I split high protein meals up into
five and six a day. My understanding about that was that women
especially can't digest a lot of calories at once and the conversion
from protein to sugar to fat occurs at a much higher ratio at anything
over 400 calories.

Could be BS, but it worked for me.

c
been around the block in tweaktown

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I don't know your history, whether you're diabetic or not, etc. But it
could just have to do with eating more frequent meals. The Class of
2003 Lowcarb school taught that eating was actually a good thing for
weight loss because it mobilized you metabolism to do stuff with the
food. As long as you keep insulin out of it, Class of 2003 said,
moving food around burns calories and revs up your fatburning
hormones.

What started this way of eating for me was that my fasting glucose was at 131,
and had been creeping up over the last couple of years. The doctor warned me
that if I didn't start taking steps to get it under control, he'd recommend
putting me on diabetes medication. He scheduled me to come back in 6 weeks after
a re-test--and that would be the moment of truth.

That got me motivated. The doctor mentioned Metabolic Syndrome X, as I did have
a few of the warning signs: High tryglycerides, elevated glucose, low HDL,
overweight, hypertension, etc.

So I bought some books on Syndrome X, and quickly realized the diet
recommendations emphasized the low carb lifestyle. Luckily, I have a great wife.
She started to design meals with protein and low-carbohydrate vegetables.

I did my part and have stayed low carb. No sodas or fruit juices--iced tea is my
beverage of choice. No potatoes, rice, breads, or desserts. I drink some wine or
bourbon and water 2-3 times a week at night.

I re-tested after 6 weeks and 25 lbs. lighter. My glucose level was 109 and my
triglycerides were a couple of points above the limit. Blood pressure was great.
Big, big improvements. The doctor was impressed enough to ask me to come back in
90 days, instead of 6 weeks.

Now I am 10 weeks into this--and 30 lbs. lighter. I'm probably going to start
going back to the gym in the next few days and start exercising again.

After watching my friend's step-dad give himself an insulin injection in the
stomach about 3 weeks into this adventure gave me all the motivation to stay the
course.

Mark