Egg beaters ?

Of course if you ease up on the front brake a little and keep the weight back...

;-)

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Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries

me....

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<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the
spring is not

necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what

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keeps you from pulling out of the pedal. It's the scissor-action of the

egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals

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there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have

always released. Not only do they release by twisting, but

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also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The kinda of

force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

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Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the

design??

If the cleat is pointed exactly perpendicular to the pedal axis I think it would be hard to get
released by pulling up, because of the lip on the cleat. However, if your foot/cleat twists a bit
one way or the other, then you can release by pulling up.

Being a little more serious, this comes from the manual:

**disengaging from the pedals**

Step down and forwards into the pedal.

Release from the pedal is achieved by an outward twist of the heel. It is also possible to release
by twisting inwards

but generally this only takes place during a crash. When you want to disengage, most riders find it
easiest and

safest to do so by twisting outward.

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Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries

me....

Quoted message said:

<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the
spring is not

necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what

Quoted message said:

keeps you from pulling out of the pedal. It's the scissor-action of the

egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals

Quoted message said:

there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have

always released. Not only do they release by twisting, but

Quoted message said:

also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The kinda of

force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

Quoted message said:

Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the

design??

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Slacker

Its very similar to the time pedals in that respect. Very rarely will I have a full on crash where I
don't either pull out of the pedals consciously or just end up with my feet out of them. The only
time I've ever actually felt it kind of jamming was last week when I was climbing a nasty technical
hill, wheelied a bit, and ended up coming off the back. The bike fell forwards because I was almost
there, just couldn't hold it. My right foot came out fine, but my left foot felt like it was locked
in when I tried to take it out so I could hike the last few feet and remount. I didn't crash or
anything, but if I tipped too much to the left it coulda been nasty.

Then again, my pedals are pretty beat. A couple of the springs are a little bent (I'm awful about
pedals clearing stuff, I've learned), pedal bodies beaten and possibly cracked, and at least one
shot sealed bearing. Despite all the abuse, I've had very few crashes of the superman variety where
I didn't naturally come out. The slow motion uphill stall and sideways topple, on the other hand,
still occasionally happens (but very rarely now, the twist is second nature).

Jon Bond

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Quoted message said:

Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries

me....

Quoted message said:

<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the
spring is not

necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what

Quoted message said:

keeps you from pulling out of the pedal. It's the scissor-action of the

egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals

Quoted message said:

there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have

always released. Not only do they release by twisting, but

Quoted message said:

also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The kinda of

force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

Quoted message said:

Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the

design??

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Slacker

Reading from the manual here it says:

'Eggbeaters are fine pedals*, if you are worried about not being able to clip out in an emergency
then we recommend that you BUY SOME FLAT PEDALS NOT SOME RACER ORIENTED CR*P'

*for roadies and poseurs.

Steve.

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In article said:

I've had very few crashes of the superman variety where I didn't naturally come out. The slow
motion uphill stall and sideways topple, on the other hand, still occasionally happens (but very
rarely now, the twist is second nature).

Jon Bond

This has also been my experience with the eggbeaters.

Paul

The other down side of Egg Beaters is .If you unclip and need to ride with your foot on the pedal
body you can't .Its really slick foot wont stay on the pedal .A couple of my friend us them .Some
likem some don't .There are other good pedals out there . I use Richey the butterfly design . light
weight and can ride unclipped for those gnarly sections.JMO.

--
J/O Trailblazer At large !!

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I've had very few crashes of the superman variety where I didn't naturally come out. The slow
motion uphill stall and sideways topple, on the other hand, still occasionally happens (but very
rarely

now,

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the twist is second nature).

Jon Bond

This has also been my experience with the eggbeaters.

Paul

I'll third that. They seem to release automatically when I have accidentally crashed, but yet don't
release while I don't want them to. Maybe I am just that good at releasing at the sign of
danger--but I doubt
it. I think they are damn good pedals. I love em--no problems at all, and sooo cheap.

j.

"Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries

me....

Quoted message said:

<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the
spring is not

necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what

Quoted message said:

keeps you from pulling out of the pedal. It's the scissor-action of the

egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals

Quoted message said:

there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have

always released. Not only do they release by twisting, but

Quoted message said:

also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The kinda of

force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

Quoted message said:

Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the

design??

Quoted message said:

--
Slacker

I have Times which are similar to the eggbeaters as far as nonadjustable spring tension. I've never
had a major endo where I've failed to unclip. think it happens unconsciously or just due to
flailing. Only time I stay clipped in a crash is when I fall down on my side. Not really a big issue
then. Why not look at times? Now that Eggbeaters are the new "in thing" you should be able to get
good deals on Atacs...unless of course you actually buy into the 4 sided entry thing as being
revolutionary and necessary.

Chris

In article <[email hidden]>, slacker7 @sbcglobal.net says...

Quoted message said:

Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries me....

<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the spring is
not necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what keeps you from pulling out of the
pedal. It's the scissor-action of the egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals
there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have always released. Not only
do they release by twisting, but also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The
kinda of force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the design??

--
Slacker

Egg beaters operate on the same principle as Time ATACs (in fact the new Crank Bros. Candy SL looks
a little TOO much like a Time pedal). When you are clipped in, you have X number of degrees of float
before you even engage the spring. With SPDs you are engaging the spring from the first degree of
movement, deflecting the different parts of the mini- erector set in those pedals until they have to
let go of the cleat. So with the parallel bar style like in egg Beaters, you have true resistance
free float right up until the release angle, then you have light spring tension which is comparable
to the lightest usable setting on an SPD pedal. The only thing you have to watch out for, especially
on Time Z pedals, is that the lugs of your shoe don't interfere with the rotation or you could get
stuck in the pedal.
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"Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries

me....

Quoted message said:

<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the
spring is not

necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what

Quoted message said:

keeps you from pulling out of the pedal. It's the scissor-action of the

egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals

Quoted message said:

there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have

always released. Not only do they release by twisting, but

Quoted message said:

also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The kinda of

force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

Quoted message said:

Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the

design??

Quoted message said:

--
Slacker

I'm not too sure about egg beaters but I believe that if you don't instinctively un-clip or there is
a considerable impact to cause you to un-clip, that your shoes will remain clipped. I few months
back I did an endo at a slow descend speed and I didn't un-clip out of my 646's. I landed on my back
on sort of held the bike suspended in the air, and lightly layed it to the side. Was glad at that
time that I didn't clip out or I could of had a face full of bike.

They have a new pedal which cures this problem as it has a body around the engagement mechanism. See
crankbrothers.com.

So, if you like the engagement/disengagement mechanism (and I really do) and appreciate the
mud-shedding ability they have, this might work for you.

Bill

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The other down side of Egg Beaters is .If you unclip and need to ride with your foot on the pedal
body you can't .Its really slick foot wont stay on the pedal .A couple of my friend us them .Some
likem some don't .There are other good pedals out there . I use Richey the butterfly design .
light weight and can ride unclipped for those gnarly sections.JMO.

--
J/O Trailblazer At large !!

I just looooove reading these "clipless pedal" threads. You all go on about how marvelous they are,
and when you get together to discuss them, it's all about the problems.

;-)

Steve go platform, don't look back.........

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Quoted message said:

Ok these things have piqued my curiosity now, but this kinda worries

me....

Quoted message said:

<From Crank Bros website> "Is the spring tension adjustable? No, because adjusting the
spring is not

necessary. with our design, spring tension is not what

Quoted message said:

keeps you from pulling out of the pedal. It's the scissor-action of the

egg beater mechanism that holds you in. with our pedals

Quoted message said:

there's absolutely no way to pull out unless you twist."

So, right now with my spd's when I get launched over the bars they have

always released. Not only do they release by twisting, but

Quoted message said:

also (very important) by really hard straight up action. The kinda of

force that sends you over the bars not just from pedaling.

Quoted message said:

Is this not the case with the egg beaters? Seems like a major flaw in the

design??

Quoted message said:

--
Slacker

Hi there,

just back from the ride, got some piece of wood in front wheeeeel, and there you go, me resting on
dirt, un attached to my bike via eggbeaters.

Nothing can beat the experiment.

No harm done during test.

All the best,

D'amir

Stephen Baker said:

I just looooove reading these "clipless pedal" threads. You all go on about how marvelous they
are, and when you get together to discuss them, it's all about the problems.

;-)

Steve go platform, don't look back.........

I did a fast, rough descent yesterday evening, about 2.5 miles, with a loss of about 1000 ft. I was
able to take everything at speed (fast for me anyway), hang on the really choppy parts, glide it
out on the flatter, smoother sections ... and I never once worried about banging my shins on the
pedals, panicking because my hands were on the bars and my feet were flapping around ... On the
climb, when I got out of my line and hit a rock somewhat unexpectedly, my feet stuck to the pedals
like glue, I never slipped one off and had the other foot torque the pedal into my shin. When the
trail was smooth and still climbing, I could spin well, giving my quads a rest while I worked my
gluts a little more on the up stroke. I have been riding clipless for 10 years now and won't look
back 🙂 YMMV.

Of course I've fallen because I couldn't/didn't unclip fast enough, usually a slow speed tip onto my
side. Clipless pedals are NOT the only product out there and certainly not the best product for
everyone, though they are for me. Threads about how perfect some component is and that is never
fails anyone are uninteresting, nothing to learn from them, and probably don't exist.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

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Baker) said:

I just looooove reading these "clipless pedal" threads. You all go on about how marvelous they
are, and when you get together to discuss them, it's all about the problems.

;-)

Steve go platform, don't look back.........

Have you ever tried them? Like anything else they have positive and negative attributes.

Paul

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I just looooove reading these "clipless pedal" threads. You all go on about how marvelous they
are, and when you get together to discuss them, it's all about the problems.

;-)

Steve go platform, don't look back.........

Who complained about anything besides Jamie who slips off his pedals (which isn't really a valid
complaint, just bought the wrong pedals if he's going to ride unclipped)? I just read a bunch of
people telling Slacker his fears were unjustified.

Chris

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I did a fast, rough descent yesterday evening, about 2.5 miles, with a loss of about 1000 ft. I
was able to take everything at speed (fast for me anyway), hang on the really choppy parts, glide
it out on the flatter, smoother sections ... and I never once worried about banging my shins on
the pedals, panicking because my hands were on the bars and my feet were flapping around ...

We should have clip-in gloves and grips/handlebars. Seats too. Maybe some fixing headgear while
we're at it.

"Be at one with the bike."

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

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I did a fast, rough descent yesterday evening, about 2.5 miles, with a loss of about 1000 ft. I
was able to take everything at speed (fast for me anyway), hang on the really choppy parts,
glide it out on the flatter, smoother sections ... and I never once worried about banging my
shins on the pedals, panicking because my hands were on the bars and my feet were flapping
around ...

We should have clip-in gloves and grips/handlebars. Seats too. Maybe

some

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fixing headgear while we're at it.

"Be at one with the bike."

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

I think that caging in the bike and biker with just enough tire for gripping sticking out is
obviously the logical next step. Sorta like shark cages with wheels but just not in
water--although..........

Alan