Egg on my face!

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Originally posted by Michael Coleran
Cycling home from work at 8-15 the other evening, I was subjected to a common assault i.e. an egg
thrown at me from a passing van! It hit me on the side of my head and almost brought me down through
the sudden shock of it. I only managed to get part of the registration number and reported it to the
police. They couldn't trace the van with the number I had given but put it on record as a common
assault by unknown person. I was resigned to putting it down to experience until I was out cycling
yesterday, twenty miles from the egg throwing incident, and down a narrow country lane out in the
sticks when out of nowhere comes the very same van! He had to slow down to pass me giving me a
clear, close up view of the registration plate. I wonder what the odds are against such luck? Armed
with the correct number the police are now going to 'have words' with the driver. Mike the bike.

Good for you mate. Are you able to press charges for assault?

Michael Coleran said:

Cycling home from work at 8-15 the other evening, I was subjected to a common assault i.e. an egg
thrown at me from a passing van! It hit me on the side of my head and almost brought me down
through the sudden shock of it. I only managed to get part of the registration number and reported
it to the police. They couldn't trace the van with the number I had given but put it on record as
a common assault by unknown person. I was resigned to putting it down to experience until I was
out cycling yesterday, twenty miles from the egg throwing incident, and down a narrow country lane
out in the sticks when out of nowhere comes the very same van! He had to slow down to pass me
giving me a clear, close up view of the registration plate. I wonder what the odds are against
such luck? Armed with the correct number the police are now going to 'have words' with the driver.
Mike the bike.

There was a brief fashion for egg throwing at pedestrians by Hooray Henrys in cars in the City
during the Thatcher years. IIRC one or two victims lost an eye. It's not remotely funny and neither
is any form of assault on cyclists by morons in motor vehicles. You could have been seriously hurt.
I hope he gets prosecuted though I think it's unlikely. Any chance of your taking a civil action?

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Dave...

Michael Coleran said:

Cycling home from work at 8-15 the other evening, I was subjected to a common assault i.e. an egg
thrown at me from a passing van! It hit me on the side of my head and almost brought me down
through the sudden shock of it. I only managed to get part of the registration number and reported
it to the police. They couldn't trace the van with the number I had given but put it on record as
a common assault by unknown person. I was resigned to putting it down to experience until I was
out cycling yesterday, twenty miles from the egg throwing incident, and down a narrow country lane
out in the sticks when out of nowhere comes the very same van! He had to slow down to pass me
giving me a clear, close up view of the registration plate. I wonder what the odds are against
such luck? Armed with the correct number the police are now going to 'have words' with the driver.
Mike the bike.

Quite a coincidence but I doubt a few words will do much to bother the egg thrower. :-(
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Quite a coincidence but I doubt a few words will do much to bother the egg thrower. :-(

Fry the egg - wrap it round a brick - and offer it back?

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Quite a coincidence but I doubt a few words will do much to
bother the egg thrower. :-(

Not neccesarily. You should receive a call back from the Police who wll give you the result. If that
result is a Caution or a Verbal Warning, that means that the culprit would have no further Action
taken by the police. This is why they are normally glad to admit their wrong-doing (as a laugh, and
full of bravado knowing that the police will take it no further).

However, to give a Caution or Warning the "Offender" *MUST* admit guilt ( you can`t warn someone not
to do something again, if they never admit to doing it in the first place!)/

Once the episode has been admitted (under the promise of "No Further Police Action"😉, THEN you
commence a civil case for damages, and request from the police a Statement in which they will detail
the offenders admission.

Hey Presto - you get your pound of flesh in Small Claims Court (99% guaranteed, due to the
standard of proof being different in civil/criminal actions, and an admission of guilt being
absolute proof!!)
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Regards from The Slapster, Cornwall, UK

Who hopes to die peacefully - just like his Uncle, And not kicking and Screaming - Like his Uncles
passengers!!

The Slapster said:

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Quite a coincidence but I doubt a few words will do much to bother the egg thrower. :-(

Not neccesarily. You should receive a call back from the Police who wll give you the result. If
that result is a Caution or a Verbal Warning, that means that the culprit would have no further
Action taken by the police. This is why they are normally glad to admit their wrong-doing (as a
laugh, and full of bravado knowing that the police will take it no further).

However, to give a Caution or Warning the "Offender" *MUST* admit guilt ( you can`t warn someone
not to do something again, if they never admit to doing it in the first place!)/

Once the episode has been admitted (under the promise of "No Further Police Action"😉, THEN you
commence a civil case for damages, and request from the police a Statement in which they will
detail the offenders admission.

Hey Presto - you get your pound of flesh in Small Claims Court (99% guaranteed, due to the
standard of proof being different in civil/criminal actions, and an admission of guilt being
absolute proof!!)

Out of interest and knowing noting about civil cases how does this work? What is the thrower
actually accused of (if anything) and what kind of damages can be clamed for?

Thanks.

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Out of interest and knowing noting about civil cases how does this work? What is the thrower
actually accused of (if anything) and what kind of damages can be clamed for?

Thanks.

IANAL but, at the least - Damage to the item(s) hit, to include the costs of
replacement/repair/cleaning. Then punitive damages for the shock and danger caused?

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Regards from The Slapster, Cornwall, UK

Who hopes to die peacefully - just like his Uncle, And not kicking and Screaming - Like his Uncles
passengers!!

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Once the episode has been admitted (under the promise of "No

Further Police

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Action"😉, THEN you commence a civil case for damages, and request from the police a Statement in
which they will detail the offenders admission.

This is marvellous news! Have you thought of putting an ad in cycling weekly for giving more refined
advice like this?

TerryJ

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Out of interest and knowing noting about civil cases how does this work? What is the thrower
actually accused of (if anything)

You would 'accuse' the thrower of damaging your property and/or causing you injury...

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and what kind of
damages can be clamed for?

Thanks.

IANAL but, at the least - Damage to the item(s) hit, to include the costs

of

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replacement/repair/cleaning.

Yes, and an element for pain and suffering if there was injury, which it seems there wasn't in
this case.

Basically what the OP described was a trivial if unpleasant incident that would be more aggravation
than it was worth to sue over.

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Then punitive damages for the shock and danger caused?

Nah, sorry, 'we' don't really do exemplary damages (as we call punitive damages) in the UK.

Rich

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IANAL but, at the least - Damage to the item(s) hit, to include the

costs

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of

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replacement/repair/cleaning.

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Yes, and an element for pain and suffering if there was injury, which it seems there wasn't in
this case.

Hmm. About, shall we say, three grand? Oh, that's handy, just inside the small claims limit ;-)

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The Slapster said:

Once the episode has been admitted (under the promise of "No Further Police Action"😉, THEN you
commence a civil case for damages, and request from the police a Statement in which they will
detail the offenders admission.

Don't think you will get that statement from the Police. You can get witness statements but
statements from the suspect are not is what I recall.

Tony

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Quite a coincidence but I doubt a few words will do much to bother the egg thrower. :-(

Wonder what the official government line is on dealing with incidents like this? Perhaps some key
cabinet members may even have personal experience of egg-throwing episodes? ;-)

David E. Belcher

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IANAL but, at the least - Damage to the item(s) hit, to include the

costs

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of

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replacement/repair/cleaning.

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Yes, and an element for pain and suffering if there was injury, which it seems there wasn't in
this case.

Hmm. About, shall we say, three grand? Oh, that's handy, just inside the small claims limit ;-)

Well actually no, the small claims limit for personal injury claims is only one grand. For property
claims it's five.

Sorry Guy, you're out of date.. must be something to do with passing the big 4-0 ;-).

Says Rich (who's already passed his 5-0)

David E. Belcher said:

Wonder what the official government line is on dealing with incidents like this? Perhaps some key
cabinet members may even have personal experience of egg-throwing episodes? ;-)

I think the policy is to beat the s**t out of the assailant if you know the Chief Constable ;-)

Tony

Tony Raven said:

The Slapster said:

Once the episode has been admitted (under the promise of "No Further Police Action"😉, THEN you
commence a civil case for damages, and request from the police a Statement in which they will
detail the offenders admission.

Don't think you will get that statement from the Police. You can get witness statements but
statements from the suspect are not is what I recall.

Hi Tony

Regading the above and my hit by the jerk in the Merc incident of
22/05/2003 <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.butty/Bike%20Crash.txt>: I was sent a letter by the
police last September stating that they'd completed their inquiries and that the driver had
been given a very stern talking to (I paraphrase). The letter also mentioned that the details
of their inquiries and the statement given by the driver would be made available to me at a
cost. I didn't bother asking what that cost would be.

Fortunately, there has been no Council Tax to pay this month. Therefore, I have not been involved in
any near misses. My good luck will, no doubt, continue until 21/03/2004 :-))

James

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