Emergency supplies

Anthony said:

I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Beef and vegetables, typically.

-sw

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We who live in a hurricane prone area - the season starts tomorrow -
are being urged to have on hand at least three days of food and water.
I assume no power, mains water or access to the outdoor grill during a
severe storm and its aftermath so I suppose canned food must play a
major role. Normally the only foods I buy in cans are tomatoes and,
very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Did you read the ingredients? Were there some ingredients you didn't
understand?

Anthony said:

We who live in a hurricane prone area - the season starts tomorrow -
are being urged to have on hand at least three days of food and water.
I assume no power, mains water or access to the outdoor grill during a
severe storm and its aftermath so I suppose canned food must play a
major role. Normally the only foods I buy in cans are tomatoes and,
very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Read the ingredients. It's not gourmet, but it's still just vegetables and
some sort of beef in gravy. And, in the aftermath of Katrina I'd sure plan
on more than 3 days of rations. Water is going to be the most important
thing, of course. You don't just need it for drinking. Think about being
able to flush a toilet or wash a dish. Which brings me to the next things
to have on hand: toilet paper! And paper plates and plastic utensil
because you don't want to waste drinking water on washing dishes. Unless
there is a fire hazard (gas leaks) there should be no reason you can't fire
up a charcoal or gas grill if you lose electricity. Also stock up on
batteries for your flashlights.

Of course the best course of action, if warned to evacuate, is do just that
and do it *early*. Don't wait until the last minute when the roads are
jammed. And for cryin' out loud, don't be one of those a**holes who insists
on just "riding it out". There's no shame in leaving. There's a lot of
shame in being one of those suckers you see on the news, stuck on a roof
waiting for a helicopter to pick you off when the flood waters rise 🙂

Jill

Steve Wertz said:

Beef and vegetables, typically.

-sw

No doubt. It is, as you might perhaps have surmised, the quality of
the ingredients that concern me. At school we used to get "beef stew"
from time to time, perfectly horrible stuff which even hungry boys
found difficulty with and which I certainly wouldn't wish to eat today.
I was actually looking for helpful suggestions from a group most of
the members of which presumably have some interest in eating pleasant
and nutritious food rather than in just being snide.

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Unless
there is a fire hazard (gas leaks) there should be no reason you can't
fire
up a charcoal or gas grill if you lose electricity.

Good lord...NO! Fire hazard is the least of your problems. Carbon monoxide
is the issue. If you can crack a window or door a bit, you can get away with
using a small gas grill. But, definitely NOT charcoal. You can't turn a
charcoal grill off & on quickly, so it would be a waste of fuel, as well as
more dangerous. With propane, it's on fast and off fast. I'd keep plenty of
heavy duty foil on hand. Line pots with it so you can crank the heat up to
high, get the job done fast, and not worry about burnt food in the pot (like
beef stew or thick soups). Throw away the foil, and don't waste water on the
pots.

Anthony said:

Steve Wertz said:

Beef and vegetables, typically.

-sw

No doubt. It is, as you might perhaps have surmised, the quality of
the ingredients that concern me. At school we used to get "beef stew"
from time to time, perfectly horrible stuff which even hungry boys
found difficulty with and which I certainly wouldn't wish to eat
today. I was actually looking for helpful suggestions from a group
most of the members of which presumably have some interest in eating
pleasant and nutritious food rather than in just being snide.

You're asking for advice from the wrong person if you want more than snide
from this person.

Jill

JoeSpareBedroom said:

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Unless
there is a fire hazard (gas leaks) there should be no reason you can't
fire
up a charcoal or gas grill if you lose electricity.

Good lord...NO! Fire hazard is the least of your problems. Carbon monoxide
is the issue. If you can crack a window or door a bit, you can get away with
using a small gas grill. But, definitely NOT charcoal. You can't turn a
charcoal grill off & on quickly, so it would be a waste of fuel, as well as
more dangerous. With propane, it's on fast and off fast. I'd keep plenty of
heavy duty foil on hand. Line pots with it so you can crank the heat up to
high, get the job done fast, and not worry about burnt food in the pot (like
beef stew or thick soups). Throw away the foil, and don't waste water on the
pots.

I'm going to make the assumption here that Jill means to do this outside...

You aren't of course going to do this DURING the hurricane but after
words. That is what people in this area (VA) did after hurricane.
Elizabeth hit and they were without power for a few days.

Roberta (in VA)

Roberta said:

JoeSpareBedroom said:

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Unless
there is a fire hazard (gas leaks) there should be no reason you
can't fire
up a charcoal or gas grill if you lose electricity.

Good lord...NO! Fire hazard is the least of your problems. Carbon
monoxide is the issue. If you can crack a window or door a bit, you
can get away with using a small gas grill. But, definitely NOT
charcoal. You can't turn a charcoal grill off & on quickly, so it
would be a waste of fuel, as well as more dangerous. With propane,
it's on fast and off fast. I'd keep plenty of heavy duty foil on
hand. Line pots with it so you can crank the heat up to high, get
the job done fast, and not worry about burnt food in the pot (like
beef stew or thick soups). Throw away the foil, and don't waste
water on the pots.

I'm going to make the assumption here that Jill means to do this
outside...

Of course I mean outside! Or at least in a well-ventilated garage.

Quoted message said:

You aren't of course going to do this DURING the hurricane but after
words. That is what people in this area (VA) did after hurricane.
Elizabeth hit and they were without power for a few days.

Roberta (in VA)

Yes, I mean afterwards! But really, the best thing to do is evac inland and
get the hell away from the storm!

Jill

Anthony said:

Steve Wertz said:

Beef and vegetables, typically.

-sw

No doubt. It is, as you might perhaps have surmised, the quality of
the ingredients that concern me. At school we used to get "beef stew"
from time to time, perfectly horrible stuff which even hungry boys
found difficulty with and which I certainly wouldn't wish to eat today.
I was actually looking for helpful suggestions from a group most of
the members of which presumably have some interest in eating pleasant
and nutritious food rather than in just being snide.

That was a perfectly legitimate response to your particular query, you
are the one with a mental problem, to wit: chronically low IQ... proven
by that only a pinheaded imbecile would priortize gormet over substance
in teh face of a hurricn's wrath

It's your can, you read the label... you can read, no?

Btw, typical canned beef stew is at least as good if not better than
what most folks prepare.

Shoulda known.... Antony is a WOP = DUMB GUIDO SHADROOL

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Steve Wertz said:

Beef and vegetables, typically.

-sw

No doubt. It is, as you might perhaps have surmised, the quality of
the ingredients that concern me. At school we used to get "beef stew"
from time to time, perfectly horrible stuff which even hungry boys
found difficulty with and which I certainly wouldn't wish to eat today.
I was actually looking for helpful suggestions from a group most of
the members of which presumably have some interest in eating pleasant
and nutritious food rather than in just being snide.

Where did you see "snide"? In my question about whether you'd checked the
ingredients? I mean, I hope you didn't expect a $3.00 can of Dinty Moore
beef stew to contain $15 per pound steak. Let's see...what else might be in
there? Preservatives? The product wouldn't exist without them. Salt, pepper
& other spices, of course. Vegetables? Probably. Maybe some caramel
coloring, and in some brands, monosodium glutamate in one of its many
disguises.

You could invest in several 70 quart ice chests (www.westmarine.com), using
one just to store bags of ice, and the 4th for actual food. Cold BBQ chicken
is something many people would be delighted with for a few days. Frittata
can be frozen, and defrosts pretty quickly. Load it up with vegetables, and
you have complete nutrition. Citrus fruit will survive a few days without
refrigeration, unless it's on its last legs to begin with. There's your
vitamin C. Canned soups aren't so bad that you couldn't live on them for a
while. There are plenty of vacuum packed meats and fish available from
companies like Starkist & Hormel.

You might get away with eating salads for a couple of days, if you made them
before your running water vanished. Keep them cold, but not TOO cold. Use
clear dressings that contain vinegar. They'll keep without refrigeration for
a few days.

I wonder how I came up with these ideas? I didn't search the web or consult
any source except my cooking and camping experience.

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[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

We who live in a hurricane prone area - the season starts tomorrow -
are being urged to have on hand at least three days of food and water.
I assume no power, mains water or access to the outdoor grill during a
severe storm and its aftermath so I suppose canned food must play a
major role. Normally the only foods I buy in cans are tomatoes and,
very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Be sure to have drinking water on hand. Also a manual can opener! Some
canned items that I would store for emergencies are baked beans, non-
condensed soups, corn, beets, sardines, chick peas, tuna, chili.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

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Anthony said:

We who live in a hurricane prone area - the season starts tomorrow -
are being urged to have on hand at least three days of food and water.
I assume no power, mains water or access to the outdoor grill during a
severe storm and its aftermath so I suppose canned food must play a
major role. Normally the only foods I buy in cans are tomatoes and,
very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

For emergency situations, canned entree's work fine. A bit high in salt
for my personal tastes but you have to consider that there will also be
a lack of fresh water so dried goods are not really a good idea.

One CAN live on canned stews and spaghetti-O's for a few days. ;-)
It's not going to kill you.

If you can afford to stock up on MRE's, that's the way I would go...
Better for one's sanity. <G>

Being spoiled rotten by good fresh cooking is going to have to go by the
wayside during an emergency. You do what you have to do to survive.

Stock up on water, lanterns and batteries too as well as sanitary items.
Soap, toilet paper, etc.

There are websites dedicated to this sort of thing, but it does make for
interesting discussions. Googling this group will show that this subject
comes up every year...
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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Shoulda known.... Antony is a WOP = DUMB GUIDO SHADROOL

well, thank you! LOL
Guido

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Anthony said:

very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Look at the ingredient list. If you don't make a lifetime of it. . . .
your lifetime will probably be just as long.

--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 5/29/2006, What They Did For Love
"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

Grizzman said:

Dont forget a a couple of guns and a generator!!
Grizzman

Best suggestion yet!

Anthony said:

We who live in a hurricane prone area - the season starts tomorrow -
are being urged to have on hand at least three days of food and water.
I assume no power, mains water or access to the outdoor grill during a
severe storm and its aftermath so I suppose canned food must play a
major role. Normally the only foods I buy in cans are tomatoes and,
very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Dont forget a a couple of guns and a generator!!
Grizzman

Sheldon wrote:
That was a perfectly legitimate response to your particular query, you

Quoted message said:

are the one with a mental problem, to wit: chronically low IQ... proven
by that only a pinheaded imbecile would priortize gormet over substance
in teh face of a hurricn's wrath

Ah, the weird things illiterates say about us members of Mensa. Envy
of the elite, I suppose.

"Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Sheldon wrote:
That was a perfectly legitimate response to your particular query, you

Quoted message said:

are the one with a mental problem, to wit: chronically low IQ... proven
by that only a pinheaded imbecile would priortize gormet over substance
in teh face of a hurricn's wrath

Ah, the weird things illiterates say about us members of Mensa. Envy
of the elite, I suppose.

You're a Mensa member, but you can't restate a question you asked earlier,
about which ingredients you were unsure about? That doesn't make sense.

Anthony said:

We who live in a hurricane prone area - the season starts tomorrow -
are being urged to have on hand at least three days of food and water.
I assume no power, mains water or access to the outdoor grill during a
severe storm and its aftermath so I suppose canned food must play a
major role. Normally the only foods I buy in cans are tomatoes and,
very occasionally, tuna I had a look in the supermarket today and
there are cans of such things as "beef stew" but I'm a little nervous
about what they might contain. Any ideas?

Buy meal replacement drinks and bars - they are nutritionally complete
and take up vewry little space. Sure they taste like [censored], but if you
are stuck in a real emergency, having more food that is nutritionally
complete will be more important than taste. Plus the drinks supply
water which could be critical.

-L.