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  1. Eric said:

    Hello, alt.support.diet.low-carb.

    I'm 6'2", 33 years old, and this evening when I stepped on my brand-
    new scale, I weighed 283 pounds, possibly my all-time high weight.

    I have been overweight since the second grade and have been going up
    and down in weight since I was 17. When I say "up and down in weight,"
    I mean from 280 to 180, the lower number being close to where I want
    to be.

    Something has to change.

    Slowly, over the years, I have come upon ways of doing this that work,
    and ways that don't. Three of the ways that work are low-carb dieting,
    writing, and reading, so here I am. Reading what others write about
    this topic will be a fresh experience. Sharing what I write about
    weight, food, and losing one while cutting back on the other is a
    frightening idea, but I'm determined to go through with it.

    In public, I come off as a perfectly reasonable individual with
    exceptionally polished social skills. I'm one of those types who live
    a double life, and my weight problem has always been a part of my
    private life, in which I am a lunatic. There are reasons for this
    duality, but hey, different strokes, as they say.

    With this in mind, I feel obliged to warn regular readers of this
    group that I'm not holding myself to even an NC-17 rating in this
    thread. I've never flamed anyone without provocation and I don't
    intend to start now, but I'm not just talking about language.

    The story of my weight problem is the story of my life, and it's been
    strange. Bits and pieces of it have been well beyond the brink of
    garden-variety insanity. I'm going to do my best to be true to that.

    So wish me luck, or not. Read, ignore, contribute, or not. Life is too
    short and my problem is too pressing for me not to try everything to
    do something real about it.

    Hi Eric and others in this group. I wish you all of the luck. I have
    found at my age (never ask a lady her age! 🙂 ) and with my busy
    scheduke that I don't have a lot of time or will power for traditional
    diets. I have a blog that also hopes to offer tips to those trying to
    lose weight maybe you could join this blog as well? Check it out and
    add your thoughts and ideas as well

    http://letsburnfat.blogspot.com/

  2. November 18

    Weight: 266.0/Fat %: 37.5%/Water%: 46.0

    So far, we're at 10 days and 17 pounds, or, if we discount the
    glycogen/water dumping of the first 3 days, about 4.5 pounds in six
    days.

    Interesting. Increased protein intake has indeed slowed down weight
    loss versus previous 1000-calory true Fat Fast diets in my past. The
    science behind low-carb austerity dieting is proven out yet one more
    time. Strangely enough, even the scale seems to be agreeing with
    Benoit. Averaged over time, fat readings have gone down approximately
    0.5% and water readings have gone up 0.5%, which is as it should be
    since fat retains less water than other types of tissue.

    One of the things that is always a temptation but I'm working on
    avoiding is, on the night of the stutter-step second-day (when the
    scale consistently reflects a loss), I have tended in the past to keep
    myself parched throughout the night in order to make sure the weight
    reading in the morning is as low as possible. This can slowly sap at
    your willpower. So what I do is make sure I drink a lot of water every
    day, and when I feel the urge to deprive myself on that second night,
    I drink even more.

    By the way, everyone, this is my fourth day with no Kool-Aid.
    Sucralose does strange things to your digestive process when it makes
    up more than a truly trifling part of your diet, and the aggravation
    is just not worth it and one of those small, maddeningly annoying
    things that eats away at your willpower on a diet like this. I may
    drink a bottle of diet soda walking from place to place, but no more
    Kool-Aid. I still have the invisible raspberry stuff in the fridge,
    and it's not like my Tropical Punch or Splenda is ever going to go
    bad.

    -----------------------------------------------

    This morning the food demon unveiled his latest strategy, or, at least
    one of his old tricks re-mainfested. The full-frontal cravings having
    been beaten back over and over again, what I think of diet-fatigue
    cravings are starting to set in. The food demon has gotten very good
    that this. It used to take a lot longer for these kind of cravings to
    get started up, but as my body has adapted over previous attempts to
    knowing what's coming, the food demon has come to realize that when I
    get past a week on any diet, I can be stubborn about busting it for
    any craving.

    It's not full-on binge cravings, nothing like the screaming desire to
    gorge, or the sneaking temptation of, "Oh, come on...eat just a bit
    more. It's all right..." (which then turns into a screaming desire to
    gorge). It's more like diet boredom and scorn for the lack of variety
    of foods in my diet. Not only is it far more logical than binge
    cravings, echoing many thoughts of ridicule voiced earlier in this
    thread, but it's accompanied by a sinking feeling of tiredness and
    general fatigue. Until I start having suicidal thoughts or sink into
    fugue states where I stare at the wall for a few hours at a time, I
    really don't think it's fair to dignify what used to be called
    "unhappiness" or "melancholy" with the name "depression."

    It comes and goes, at least, but unless I recognize it for what it is,
    another food-demon strategy, I'm a goner. The food demon twists my
    head around and I think, "Today, I'll vary the pattern. I'll change it
    around a bit and do something different: not more calories, just some
    variety. It's OK...for today."

    The second I do, the second one thing varies in the pattern of eating
    for the day and the carefully-reinforced pathways of habit in my mind
    are deviated from, the food demon attacks again with binge cravings of
    monstrous proportion. And because I'm in new territory, I'm more
    likely to give in to them.

    And, of course, I didn't wake up until 12:30 and I didn't eat until
    almost three o'clock. Being significantly late on that 2:00 feeding
    time, when I eat the 8 oz. of cheese, is almost as bad as being a
    minute early.

    To think, just yesterday I was relieved that the binge cravings seemed
    to have settled down a bit. The food demon was probably just trying to
    give me a feeling of false security before he tried throwing the
    craving ball instead of running it down my throat.

    So, three kinds of cravings so far.

    1) Full-on eating-attack binge cravings
    2) Temptation to eat just a bit more
    3) Diet fatigue cravings

    The three work together, one reinforcing the other and turning into
    another at moments of opportunity with a single goal in mind, to get
    me to eat MORE. Let's see what else surfaces in the next few days,
    because, like most dieters I've talked to, what gets me off a diet
    tends to be a very subjective opinion on my part once I'm off the
    diet. I either tend not to think about it or make up an excuse that is
    absolutely ludicrous once I look at my records. That's how I
    discovered the correlation between skipping a multivitamin and giving
    in to cravings.

  3. "Eric" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    November 18

    Weight: 266.0/Fat %: 37.5%/Water%: 46.0

    So far, we're at 10 days and 17 pounds, or, if we discount the
    glycogen/water dumping of the first 3 days, about 4.5 pounds in six
    days.

    Interesting. Increased protein intake has indeed slowed down weight
    loss versus previous 1000-calory true Fat Fast diets in my past. The
    science behind low-carb austerity dieting is proven out yet one more
    time. Strangely enough, even the scale seems to be agreeing with
    Benoit. Averaged over time, fat readings have gone down approximately
    0.5% and water readings have gone up 0.5%, which is as it should be
    since fat retains less water than other types of tissue.

    One of the things that is always a temptation but I'm working on
    avoiding is, on the night of the stutter-step second-day (when the
    scale consistently reflects a loss), I have tended in the past to keep
    myself parched throughout the night in order to make sure the weight
    reading in the morning is as low as possible. This can slowly sap at
    your willpower. So what I do is make sure I drink a lot of water every
    day, and when I feel the urge to deprive myself on that second night,
    I drink even more.

    By the way, everyone, this is my fourth day with no Kool-Aid.
    Sucralose does strange things to your digestive process when it makes
    up more than a truly trifling part of your diet, and the aggravation
    is just not worth it and one of those small, maddeningly annoying
    things that eats away at your willpower on a diet like this. I may
    drink a bottle of diet soda walking from place to place, but no more
    Kool-Aid. I still have the invisible raspberry stuff in the fridge,
    and it's not like my Tropical Punch or Splenda is ever going to go
    bad.

    -----------------------------------------------

    This morning the food demon unveiled his latest strategy, or, at least
    one of his old tricks re-mainfested. The full-frontal cravings having
    been beaten back over and over again, what I think of diet-fatigue
    cravings are starting to set in. The food demon has gotten very good
    that this. It used to take a lot longer for these kind of cravings to
    get started up, but as my body has adapted over previous attempts to
    knowing what's coming, the food demon has come to realize that when I
    get past a week on any diet, I can be stubborn about busting it for
    any craving.

    It's not full-on binge cravings, nothing like the screaming desire to
    gorge, or the sneaking temptation of, "Oh, come on...eat just a bit
    more. It's all right..." (which then turns into a screaming desire to
    gorge). It's more like diet boredom and scorn for the lack of variety
    of foods in my diet. Not only is it far more logical than binge
    cravings, echoing many thoughts of ridicule voiced earlier in this
    thread, but it's accompanied by a sinking feeling of tiredness and
    general fatigue. Until I start having suicidal thoughts or sink into
    fugue states where I stare at the wall for a few hours at a time, I
    really don't think it's fair to dignify what used to be called
    "unhappiness" or "melancholy" with the name "depression."

    It comes and goes, at least, but unless I recognize it for what it is,
    another food-demon strategy, I'm a goner. The food demon twists my
    head around and I think, "Today, I'll vary the pattern. I'll change it
    around a bit and do something different: not more calories, just some
    variety. It's OK...for today."

    The second I do, the second one thing varies in the pattern of eating
    for the day and the carefully-reinforced pathways of habit in my mind
    are deviated from, the food demon attacks again with binge cravings of
    monstrous proportion. And because I'm in new territory, I'm more
    likely to give in to them.

    And, of course, I didn't wake up until 12:30 and I didn't eat until
    almost three o'clock. Being significantly late on that 2:00 feeding
    time, when I eat the 8 oz. of cheese, is almost as bad as being a
    minute early.

    To think, just yesterday I was relieved that the binge cravings seemed
    to have settled down a bit. The food demon was probably just trying to
    give me a feeling of false security before he tried throwing the
    craving ball instead of running it down my throat.

    So, three kinds of cravings so far.

    1) Full-on eating-attack binge cravings
    2) Temptation to eat just a bit more
    3) Diet fatigue cravings

    The three work together, one reinforcing the other and turning into
    another at moments of opportunity with a single goal in mind, to get
    me to eat MORE. Let's see what else surfaces in the next few days,
    because, like most dieters I've talked to, what gets me off a diet
    tends to be a very subjective opinion on my part once I'm off the
    diet. I either tend not to think about it or make up an excuse that is
    absolutely ludicrous once I look at my records. That's how I
    discovered the correlation between skipping a multivitamin and giving
    in to cravings.

    Your postings seem more like one from a meth addict. I think you've got
    the right idea about restricting your present diet foods to only a few
    items. I have read of some other dieters that have beaten down their food
    demons by going strict meat and eggs for life. Perhaps you may consider this
    route. Maybe you can pick a few protein and fat combinations that are
    neutral. I find that eggs are that way for me. I know you don't like them
    but you do eat them. Perhaps you're not hungry enough yet to like them. When
    I'm hungry, I'll eat lots of them. When I'm not hungry, they don't interest
    me. Eggs nutritionally, may be one of the most perfect foods, as it contains
    everything it needs to make a whole animal contained in a convenient
    package.
    There was the case of the "25 eggs per day man"
    http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/liver/eateggs.html

    Explorers and Natives in the past have eaten pemmican only for months at a
    time. Ray Audette swears by it in his book "Neanderthin". I also make my
    own, and like this food for it's advantages as a neutral food as well as
    it's shelf life, compactness, and portability. Since it is labour intensive,
    it may not be right for you. A fatty cut of steak done rare is as good or
    likely better.

    Eating could be done just for survival rather than an enjoyable
    experience. Find joy in other aspects of your life if food is a problem. You
    may also find that controlling this one aspect may make your life happier in
    other areas by improving body health and frame of mind. Many people believe
    that a person's food choices have to taste great or have lots of variety. If
    taste and variety foods are part of the problem, than eating only foods that
    you don't like or have a neutral effect may be the answer. You're already
    doing it now. Just do it for life.

    I don't eat donuts, chips, pop, chocolate, cakes, cookies, potatoes, rice,
    pasta, bread and a few other things I can't think of off the top of my head.
    These are all foods I can not control just by having one bite. I have no
    plans to eat any of them again, or to find fake substitutes for them. It was
    a great loss at first, similar to losing a best friend. Now, there are no
    cravings. I purposely choose foods that are bland. This is not in agreement
    by many low carbers for whatever reason. But it works for me.

    "Sometimes in people's search for the best, they overlook the good".

  4. Doug Freyburger said:
    Eric said:

    Hollywood <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Typical. I have a wife. I lift for health. I like to lift. I like it more than
    dreadmill. I don't hate the dreadmill. But lifting is fun. Maybe because
    I'm stealthy Type A and it feeds that. I dunno. But your view here is
    very limited and therefore, very limiting. You're not gonna find many
    things better for your attempts at improving your health than resistance
    exercises.

    Quoted message said:

    The lifting thing WOULD [censored] you off. Eh, what can you do.

    Either resistance or aerobics works better than neither. Both works
    better than either.

    The best fat loss ever in my life was in Navy boot camp. During that
    time I ran 20-30 minutes every evening and marched several miles.
    Some resistance training in the form of calistenics but small compared
    to the aerobic. Anyone who ever claims that aerobics can't change
    body shape has never been to boot camp. But it shouldn't be hard
    to find an equivalent story of someone who has lost best with weight
    lifting. Either works, both works better.

    http://thefitnessinsider.menshealth.com/2007/10/the-secret-to-b.html

    This post cites study work by Jeff Volek and crew, forthcoming, on
    this
    very subject. The exercise doesn't really make a difference to weight
    loss (at least in this study). In fact, the cardio people lost the
    least.
    The difference comes in fat loss vs weight loss. The combination of
    diet + cardio + resistance is the champ in terms of dropping the fat
    pounds. Would have been interesting if they'd had a diet + resistance
    group, but perhaps in a subsequent study.

    Quoted message said:

    Correction. Water not fat.

    Hrm. We can assume with a high degree of accuracy that
    this is so. We haven't measured him.

  5. So Eric, how are you doing?

    V

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