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  1. There was an article in the November issue of our running clubs monthly
    publication, The Pacesetter. It was pretty funny.

    It opens with this line., "First of all, it's not a run; it's three bad
    hikes in a row."
    Some other gems:

    "I ran probably half of it. To be more precise, I jogged half of it, walked
    a quarter, crawled hand-to-foot about an eighth and bumped off trees like a
    pinball going downhill all the rest. All in all it was a blast!"

    "The next 4.6 miles aren't so bad (in the same way that pounding your foot
    with a hammer isn't so bad if you've already been hitting your head with a
    brick), except the terrain is unrelenting huge boulders and roots for the
    entire course, Really no place for a human foot."

    "So around the 8-9 mile mark it gets interesting with a 1,000 foot straight
    up vertical ascent in a mile. Here is where I told God that I'd be a changed
    person if he'd just whoosh down and deliver me from this mountain. I
    promised to donate all my old runnng shoes and quit rounding the mileage i
    my running log, but I think he was looking for a bigger commitment because
    the thunderstorms kicked in the top of the mountain. I'm in the market for a
    new deity so if anyone knows of a less vengeful god, I'm ready to talk. The
    uphill was grueling but the downhill was just hilarious. Bounce from tree
    to tree, lose the trail, bounce from tree to tree, roll over boulder."

    "That someone could look at that terrain and think "we should have a
    footrace here" and get 200 people to actually do it year after year for 30
    years and get others like the Nabozny boys to hauls in water and Gatorade
    (there are 6 or 7 aid stations, unvbelievable!) is just an undying
    testament to the perverse imagination of humankind".

  2. "Parker Race" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    There was an article in the November issue of our running clubs
    monthly publication, The Pacesetter. It was pretty funny.

    Good stuff. I'd like to get permiussion to put it in my club
    newsletter. Can you send me the name, Email or phone number in private
    Email of the author?

    Maybe we should send a personal copy to Lance. 🙂

    -DF

  3. "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Parker Race" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    There was an article in the November issue of our running clubs monthly
    publication, The Pacesetter. It was pretty funny.

    Good stuff. I'd like to get permiussion to put it in my club newsletter.
    Can you send me the name, Email or phone number in private Email of the
    author?

    Maybe we should send a personal copy to Lance. 🙂

    -DF


    I sent you the info in e-mail.

  4. "Parker Race" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Doug Freese" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Parker Race" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    There was an article in the November issue of our running clubs monthly
    publication, The Pacesetter. It was pretty funny.

    Good stuff. I'd like to get permiussion to put it in my club newsletter.
    Can you send me the name, Email or phone number in private Email of the
    author?

    Maybe we should send a personal copy to Lance. 🙂

    -DF


    I sent you the info in e-mail.

    I mailed DF a copy, you want one Lance?

  5. "Parker Race" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    There was an article in the November issue of our running clubs monthly
    publication, The Pacesetter. It was pretty funny.

    It opens with this line., "First of all, it's not a run; it's three bad
    hikes in a row."
    Some other gems:

    So true, the only part you can really get into some kind of running rhythm
    is a few miles before the big 2nd climb. The rest is mountain
    climbing/descending.

    Quoted message said:

    ...
    "That someone could look at that terrain and think "we should have a
    footrace here" and get 200 people to actually do it year after year for 30
    years and get others like the Nabozny boys to hauls in water and Gatorade
    (there are 6 or 7 aid stations, unvbelievable!) is just an undying
    testament to the perverse imagination of humankind".

    Good quotes, thanks. Kudos to the RD, [censored] Vincent for his dastardly vision.
    Actually there's plenty of great courses up there in the Catskills. I could
    see a great, though somewhat shorter one - an ~11 miler starting at Woodland
    Valley and going up Giant ledge, around to and up Slide Mt, then over
    Cornell, and Wittenburg, back down to Woodland Valley. That loop, though
    much shorter, would make a great race, and features the highest point in the
    Catskills, and some of the fantastic views at Wittenburg and Giant Ledge.

    For a killer point-to-point race (like escarpment) that would be arguably
    much harder, I'd go with the 24.6 mile Devil's path, the eastern part of
    which has killer ascent/descents of Plateau, Sugarloaf, Twin, and Indian
    Head. It's like a meat grinder, and would have at least 3-4 times the very
    steep descent that escarpment has. (Escarpment is hard, don't get me wrong,
    but IMO the devil's path is harder). To make the finish more interesting,
    run it west-to east, swinging south to finish near Doug's training haunt -
    Overlook Mt - making it about 28.5 miles. It would run I'd guess between 5
    and 6 hours (I'd guess) for really fast trail runners, and probably 8-12
    hours for mortals, so while it would make a fantastic race, you'd have to
    have serious qualifying standards - mortals need not apply.

    So maybe after you run Hat this year you might run escarpment?

    -Tony

  6. "Tony S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Good quotes, thanks. Kudos to the RD, [censored] Vincent for his dastardly
    vision.
    Actually there's plenty of great courses up there in the Catskills. I
    could
    see a great, though somewhat shorter one - an ~11 miler starting at
    Woodland
    Valley and going up Giant ledge, around to and up Slide Mt, then over
    Cornell, and Wittenburg, back down to Woodland Valley. That loop,
    though
    much shorter, would make a great race, and features the highest point
    in the
    Catskills, and some of the fantastic views at Wittenburg and Giant
    Ledge.

    I've done it in reverse.

    Quoted message said:

    For a killer point-to-point race (like escarpment) that would be
    arguably
    much harder, I'd go with the 24.6 mile Devil's path, the eastern part
    of
    which has killer ascent/descents of Plateau, Sugarloaf, Twin, and
    Indian
    Head. It's like a meat grinder, and would have at least 3-4 times the
    very
    steep descent that escarpment has.

    Again, I've done that one but started with Indian Head. You can also do
    a great run off 213 and up to Hunter( mother of a climb) and then to
    many other paths and back.

    Quoted message said:

    (Escarpment is hard, don't get me wrong, but IMO the devil's path is
    harder.

    They're both hard in their own way. 😉

    I used to run from [censored]'s house in Palenville to the Buddhists and back,
    roughly 5 hours, for my long run for my early ultra races. Back then
    that was hard and long run. Now we do it as a fun run and considered
    fairly easy.

    What I really like is the variety of trails and difficulty in my own
    back yard.

    -DougF

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