[censored] pack for running

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I am looking for a [censored] pack to use while running. Specifically, I am looking for one that won't
bounce or move around and is contoured to fit the body. I have seen one that has a fabric like
material and I believe it had a velcro flap on the top. I am looking for either that particular
kind or something similar.

A repost on:

Fannypack, Backpack, Camelbak Feedback
c.2000 Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.

William Harvey asked:

I started running to work early last year and tote everything in a backpack. I don't see too many
people doing it and when I mentioned this to a few office buddies, they said it's because a backpack
can hurt your back. Is this nonsense? I've never had any problems with my back over the last year
and I'm saving too much time and money over public transportation. If anything, it may make me run
more erect, which as we all know tones the tummy. Any info out there?

One thing that I have found while running with my back pack or [censored] pack is that the packs have
been a great feedback mechanism for my running.

With the backpack I found several things and would be interested in your experiential insights.
First, I found that I learned to use my arm swing from shoulder to elbow so that they
counterbalanced the pack. The pack did not bounce from side to side. The weight of the backpack
kept me from raising my shoulders unnecessarily. I had lose change in the front zip pocket once and
realized that it jingled less with certain running form. When I used both the free
swinging/counter-balancing of the arms and the proper lean I didn't hit the ground as hard. I
learned to put my foot down faster and keep my core/center of gravity up, so I didn't jar with
every step.

The feedback from the [censored] pack helped me bounce less minimizing the vertical movement of the body.
It gave me feedback when I wasn't lifting my knees. I also found that when I was stronger with one
arm or leg, the [censored] pack had a tendency to slide toward the side I wasn't using as much. I used
this feedback as a way to attempt to keep my arm and leg movements opposite and equal. Equal being
the operational word.

My longest backpack run was about 55 miles running from home to a Benedictine Monastery up in
Oceanside. I was carrying about 15 pounds. As with William¹s observation, the backpack has never
caused me a back problem. However I¹ve never run with more than 10 or 15 pounds.

The other part of the backpack running was what I picked up while doing a research study with the
Marine Recruit Training Regiment at MCRD in San Diego. Working on running form so that there would
be fewer injuries, we realized that slow running with a backpack is a matter of balancing the upper
body over its core. When running with the backpack, it forced the Marine to align properly. When
they weren't carrying the backpack, the tendency was to go back to a slight backward learn
(unnoticeable to the eye) of the upper body.

One of the best examples of the proper running form that I've been speaking about for the past 20
plus years is demonstrated by two different military marching styles. The difference is between the
regulation marching of the recruit with a 31-inch step and the marching of the Marine Silent Drill
Team. The 31 inch step of the recruit is an overstride that is visible on the shoe wear of the
recruits. The outer back edge of the heel is worn down...that may play a role in all kinds of lower
leg problems from tendonitis to stress fractures. The Marine Silent Drill Team can march in cadence
and pivot around one Marine who is marching in place and doing a 360 degree turn while staying that
that one place. At the same time the 12th Marine at the outer edge of the line scribes the
circumference of the circle while keeping the same cadence as the Marine marching in place.

This is a topic George Sheehan and I discussed on one of his talking visits to San Diego. He wrote
about it in a monthly piece about the 85 strides or 170 steps/minute around a track where he was
doing a 10 minute mile and another runner was doing 85 strides or 170 steps /minute and doing a 6
minute mile.

I would be interested in hearing where your focus of vision has changed since you've been running
with the backpack? Is it ten feet, or twenty feet, or are your eyes on the horizon?

While the results of the research with the running form did not prove any statistical significance
regarding speed, the physiologist had said that he wished he had put some transducers under the legs
of the treadmill. Anecdotally, he said that after the training in running form and style, he noticed
that none of the glass beakers, containers and canisters had fallen off the shelving as they had
before in the wooden floored barracks where the testing took place.

Please write up your experiments of one and e-mail me a copy, as I would be interested in using it
as I continue to write by book on teaching proper running form and style.

The uphill battle in talking about running form and style is that if you are doing something
improperly/incorrectly and you think that it is correct because of your own beliefs or that of
authorities, you will never change. While there is no comparison, at times I can understand what the
scientist who put forward the concept of tectonic plates back in the 20's must have felt when
discounted and dropped from the Academy of Sciences as absurd or crazy. The common belief is that
distance runners should land on the heel. Where are you landing as you run?

Anyway, William, keep up the good work as runner/hunter/food gatherer. I would also be interested in
hearing your thoughts on the meditative aspects of the run...and what has been the effect of
integrating your running into your lifestyle. As I type this I've accumulated over 1000 miles at my
computer since January on my exercycle which is under my elevated desk.

And so I repeat one of my favorite quotes by Goethe: Life is the childhood of our immortality. After
25 years of teaching running, I am once again a student of my running. Ah! It's good to be
alive...and running with Beginner's Mind.

Guys with [censored] packs............ick. Oh what the hell, you're a jogger. No one will think any
less of you.

In message <[email hidden]>, Miss Anne Thrope
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Guys with [censored] packs............ick. Oh what the hell, you're a jogger. No one will think any
less of you.

We call them bum bags over this side of the water, where else would I carry my water bottle, keys
and phone ;o)
--
Les V60 North Shields Poly AC nspoly.co.uknspoly.co.ukOpen ↗

Les Thompson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Miss Anne Thrope
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Guys with [censored] packs............ick. Oh what the hell, you're a jogger. No one will think any
less of you.

We call them bum bags over this side of the water, where else would I carry my water bottle, keys
and phone ;o)

Well, considering your an englishman, I have a really good suggestion on where you can stick those
items while you run. I hear there's plenty of room in those big asses.

In message <[email hidden]>, T. J. Hooker
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Les Thompson said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Miss Anne Thrope
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Guys with [censored] packs............ick. Oh what the hell, you're a jogger. No one will think any
less of you.

We call them bum bags over this side of the water, where else would I carry my water bottle, keys
and phone ;o)

Well, considering your an englishman, I have a really good suggestion on where you can stick those
items while you run. I hear there's plenty of room in those big asses.

:oP
--
Les V60 North Shields Poly AC

Les Thompson said:

:oP
--
Les V60 North Shields Poly AC

Some kind of gay code no doubt...

T.J. Hooker said:

Les Thompson said:

:oP
--
Les V60 North Shields Poly AC

Some kind of gay code no doubt...

Romulan in nature captain.