Feeling "deprived"

"J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have difficulty understanding people who decide on a low carb approach
to diet and then immediately hunt down the same high carb food types that
caused their initial weight problems. They aren't changing lifestyle, they
are merely switching brands.

That's it in a nutshell.

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>, "Pat" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Luna, it takes two people to play a game. You're playing one with her, now.
Ignore the game and it will stop.

Pat in TX

I don't think it's a game. Nanner's not a troll. I consider it a
friendly debate, and I hope nanner does too.

This isn't the first time someone here has advised me not to argue with
someone, what's that all about? I appreciate the peace-keeping impulse,
but I've noticed a trend, not just here but irl too, of people being
afraid to voice differing opinions, I'm guessing out of fear of giving
offense or starting a fight. That saddens me.

Well, there's a time and place for voicing opinions and not voicing
opinions. Never argue religion or politics at a family gathering -
(unless you know the participants won't be offended, in which case it
can be fun). In a news group like this, sometimes it is best to hold
back, sometimes not.

Now as to your deprived argument, after 3 years of low-carbing and
on maintenance for 2.5 years, I felt totally deprived. I wanted pies
and more pies. In the last 3 months, I have baked at least 2 dozen
pies. Pecan Pies, Lemon Pies, Carmel Pies, and lots and lots of
Chocolate and Coconut Pies. Lots of beautiful meringue on my pies.
I no longer feel deprived. In fact, I have an unopened carton of
buttermilk in the fridge (right next to a half plate of deboned
chicken<g>😉 that is approaching the expiration date right now.
Buttermilk Pie was next on my list but I just don't have the craving
anymore. Now here is the fun part..... I took all those bites of
pie and it was so good and satisfying with tastes and textures that I
had deprived myself of for years. The sensations boggled the mind.

But I didn't swallow any of it. I just tasted it and felt it and
enjoyed it without swallowing. I didn't gain any weight either. In
fact I lost a pound or two.

And finally, I'm satisfied and no longer feeling deprived. Back to
eating to live instead of living to eat. Excuse me now while I go
get a piece of cheese.

Now let all the wackos respond about how sick this content satisfied
non-deprived sicko is for sharing his opinions in the newsgroup.
Bring it on

Binge and purge, eh?

It worked for Karen Carpenter.

--
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.

"JimL" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Now let all the wackos respond about how sick this content satisfied
non-deprived sicko is for sharing his opinions in the newsgroup.
Bring it on

Quoted message said:

I have difficulty understanding people who decide on a low carb approach
to diet and then immediately hunt down the same high carb food types that
caused their initial weight problems. They aren't changing lifestyle, they
are merely switching brands.

Regards

David

You are assuming that the low carb version and the high carb version has the
same effect on people. People do have to pay attention to calories.
However, a lc tortilla with lots of fibre and whole grain is not going to
produce the same reaction as one that is made with a simple enriched flour.

In certain cases (diet soda) the substitute has a lot less calories and a
reduced effect on blood sugar. In other cases the calorie level may be
higher but hopefully the satiation level is higher and the person will
consume less overall.

Sid...

You're right. It certainly does depend on the food. There are still some
LC formulated snacks that aren't much more nutritious than their high-carb
originals just like one poster pointed out regarding the low-fat formulated
things.
The LC flour substitute blend I make is very nutritious with oat and flax
giving everything I make with it lots of healthy fibre, omega-3 and
beta-glucans. It's also about half the calories of regular flour. So my
cookies and muffins are actually good for me. And they don't make me want
to overeat them since the fibre makes them quite filling.

sprudil said:

You are assuming that the low carb version and the high carb version has the
same effect on people. People do have to pay attention to calories.
However, a lc tortilla with lots of fibre and whole grain is not going to
produce the same reaction as one that is made with a simple enriched flour.

In certain cases (diet soda) the substitute has a lot less calories and a
reduced effect on blood sugar. In other cases the calorie level may be
higher but hopefully the satiation level is higher and the person will
consume less overall.

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Bev

:
: > Luna, it takes two people to play a game. You're playing one with her,
now.
: > Ignore the game and it will stop.
: >
: > Pat in TX
:
: I don't think it's a game. Nanner's not a troll. I consider it a
: friendly debate, and I hope nanner does too.

Uh, no, Luna. She is deliberately pushing your buttons and you are rushing
to "explain" yourself. You don't have to do that. It's no debate; it's a
tease and you're "it".

Pat in TX

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

:
: > Luna, it takes two people to play a game. You're playing one with her,
now.
: > Ignore the game and it will stop.
: >
: > Pat in TX
:
: I don't think it's a game. Nanner's not a troll. I consider it a
: friendly debate, and I hope nanner does too.

Uh, no, Luna. She is deliberately pushing your buttons and you are rushing
to "explain" yourself. You don't have to do that. It's no debate; it's a
tease and you're "it".

Pat in TX

Ya know, I'm not teasing her but I *was* in a picky mood when I was posting.
I do generally roll my eyes at alot of Luna's posts and I meant the things I
said but I wasn't trying to pick a fight or have a debate either. There was
nothing to debate. Luna is right about it all being in fun. Maybe it's like
poking your kid sister....

Luna said:

Maybe we should look at this concept of feeling "deprived" a different
way. After all, they're _our_ feelings, emanating from within us, so we
should at least make an effort to control them.

Deprived, depraved. One letter difference. A world of
difference in attitude. And all a matter of you own
decision. One's not fun, one is fun.