Hey one of my riding buddies had a saddle "cradle" snap twice (i mean two separate ones break) they are aluminium (or as you Yanks call it, ALuminum)
on top of a carbon post. Go figure
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Aussie Steve said:
Hey one of my riding buddies had a saddle "cradle" snap twice (i mean two separate ones break) they are aluminium (or as you Yanks call it, ALuminum)
on top of a carbon post. Go figureYou might want to suggest to your Mate that he EITHER lowers his saddle height by 5mm-to-10mm OR that he not rock left-to-right and/or bounce while he is pedaling.
NB. Some cradles are more robust than others -- for example, the Shimano seatpost cradle (which are made by Easton, AFAIK) ...
In that vein, some cradles can be interchanged with the one found on different 'brand' posts, so another option might be to scrounge around and swap a different cradle onto his seatpost.
If the receiving surface/tongue on the top of the post is concave, then in the worst case scenario he can find a CHEAP post which has a STEEL cradle & swap it (minimally, the lower portion which I presume is failing) for the alloy cradle.
I presume your Mate is able to simply buy a replacement cradle piece rather than complete seatposts ... if the latter, then he may want to think about a different 'brand' post in the future!
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I just think its weird and too much of a coincidence, I've never ever heard of this thing happening. Have heard & seen handlebar stems snap, and a mate had carbon forks snap as he was going downhill at 50+kmh...it was very very painful and messy, he had a spoke go through one ear... but he's real tough and recovered quicker than a normal human...
My mate with the cradle, he has a spare at home (he thinks) and yeah, he can swap it over but its a bit freaky... Felt. Hmm they can have a similar mantra to Nike- "Don't do it!" e.g. don't buy Felt 😠 -
Aussie Steve said:
I just think its weird and too much of a coincidence, I've never ever heard of this thing happening. Have heard & seen handlebar stems snap, and a mate had carbon forks snap as he was going downhill at 50+kmh...it was very very painful and messy, he had a spoke go through one ear... but he's real tough and recovered quicker than a normal human...
My mate with the cradle, he has a spare at home (he thinks) and yeah, he can swap it over but its a bit freaky... Felt. Hmm they can have a similar mantra to Nike- "Don't do it!" e.g. don't buy Felt 😠Aussies are tough blokes!
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Aussie Steve said:
Felt. Hmm they can have a similar mantra to Nike- "Don't do it!" e.g. don't buy Felt 😠
Do I have to change my forum name 😕 🙂
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Felt_Rider said:
Do I have to change my forum name 😕 🙂
No, just say that it means someone touched you while riding. 😉 -
Aussie Steve said:
...they are aluminium (or as you Yanks call it, ALuminum)...
FWIW, "Aluminum" is the actual correct spelling - the "Aluminium" word was started by some dyslexic Englishman, AFAIK...From Wikipedia: By 1812, Davy (inventor/discoverer of Aluminum) had settled on aluminum. He wrote in the journal Chemical Philosophy: "As yet Aluminum has not been obtained in a perfectly free state."[30] But the same year, an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review, a British political-literary journal, objected to aluminum and proposed the name aluminium, "for so we shall take the liberty of writing the word, in preference to aluminum, which has a less classical sound."[31]
In other words, some snooty British political rag decided that the name coined by the person who discovered aluminum wasn't classy enough.-- Jan (BC, Canada, proudly riding a Specialized carbon fiber frame with ALUMINUM lugs)
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[quote="jan_nienaber"]FWIW, "Aluminum" is the actual correct spelling - the "Aluminium" word was started by some dyslexic Englishman, AFAIK...
From Wikipedia: By 1812...
Wikipedia is not a reliable reference. We all know that it can be edited by anybody and often contains falsehoods, inaccuracies, etc. However, the English language is a living language, unlike Latin. English changes, evolves, moves with the times. Words become accepted into common usage. Lots of chemical elements have the suffix "ium" like Uranium, Plutonium, etc so I suppose that's why some "knob" decided to re-spell this word. Aluminum would suit americans because of their emphasis on the first or second syllable; with the "ium" suffix you have to emphasise the third syllable. Hmm. Anyway I find it surprising that a Canadian would go in to bat for their sworn enemy across the border...😕 -
Aussie Steve said:
Wikipedia is not a reliable reference. We all know that it can be edited by anybody and often contains falsehoods, inaccuracies, etc. However, the English language is a living language, unlike Latin. English changes, evolves, moves with the times. Words become accepted into common usage. Lots of chemical elements have the suffix "ium" like Uranium, Plutonium, etc so I suppose that's why some "knob" decided to re-spell this word. Aluminum would suit americans because of their emphasis on the first or second syllable; with the "ium" suffix you have to emphasise the third syllable. Hmm. Anyway I find it surprising that a Canadian would go in to bat for their sworn enemy across the border...😕
I cannot confirm nor refute the veracity of the Wikipedia entry ...
But, FWIW, you must know that the "Queen's (or, King's) English" is just that ... and, Queen Victoria was notorious for mispronunciation ... considering her long reign, if SHE read-and/or-accepted the pronunciation put forth by the "snooty British political rag" then her subsequent mispronunciation would undoubtedly became the de facto pronunciation throughout the Empire.
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jan_nienaber said:
FWIW, "Aluminum" is the actual correct spelling - the "Aluminium" word was started by some dyslexic Englishman, AFAIK...
From Wikipedia: By 1812...
Wikipedia is not a reliable reference. ...... Aluminum would suit americans because of their emphasis on the first or second syllable; with the "ium" suffix you have to emphasise the third syllable....
Hi Aussie Steve
I agree with your observation about Wikipedia. However, I have come accross references to the origin of the word many years ago, and it was at least similar in spirit to the current Wiki definition. In Canada we prefer to use the INTERNATIONALLY accepted English spelling, and that holds true for most other words (eg., we spell it "labour", "harbour" and not "labor", "harbor" etc, we pronounce the last letter of the alphabet as "zed" and not "zee" etc)
However, AFAIK we stuck with the word "Aluminum" simply because it was the original word for it.Aussie Steve said:
...Hmm. Anyway I find it surprising that a Canadian would go in to bat for their sworn enemy across the border...😕
Hey, any nation of people who would vote a cool guy like Barak Obama in as president, cannot be all bad 😄
-- Jan in BC, Canada
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