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FFS - front freewheel system

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  1. Quoted message said:
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    -snip much-

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    > meb wrote:
    > > Am I correct in assuming this limitted
    > > freewheel action would preclude the rear
    > > cogset from being used for a 5 speed fixie?

    note use of "freewheel" and "fixed gear" together.

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    A Muzi wrote:
    > The freewheel for an FFS/PPS has stiffer than
    > normal resistance and will allow a chain to
    > bunch up when coasting if you remove the FFS/PPS
    > crank system. If you set it up as a single speed
    > ( You misuse the term "fixie"😉 by shortening the
    > chain to one of the five sprockets, yes, you can
    > ride it effectively. Just don't include a
    > derailleur or tensioner unless you have the
    > special crank assembly.


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    meb said:

    Not sure why the term fixie is missused. Is it
    because a 5 speed non- freewheeling drive (times any
    crankset ring quantities) is not a “fixie” if gears
    can be changed?


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    A Muzi said:

    The FFS freewheels coasts. It's a freewheel, not
    fixed.

    meb said:

    So a Schlumpf BB drive with fixie hub is semantically a
    fixie even though multi speed.

    Yes, I think we agree. "Fixed" implies no coasting.
    Freewheels, whether one or eight speeds, are not fixed.
    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
    April, 1971

  2. Adam Rush said:

    Schlumpf themselves say that is it right out. From their
    FAQ: "9. Can speed-drive be used with a fixed wheel cycle?
    "No. In reverse direction, there musn't be full load. It's
    o.k. for actuating a coaster brake, but not for high
    torques during long operation periods." If anybody could
    give me some technical reasons for this FAQ answer, other
    than that they are covering their asses, I would
    appereciate it.

    I'm not sure what you mean; manifestly it's harder to design
    a planetary gear that must withstand high torque in both
    directions.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?

  3. David Damerell said:
    Adam Rush said:

    Schlumpf themselves say that is it right out. From their
    FAQ: "9. Can speed-drive be used with a fixed wheel
    cycle? "No. In reverse direction, there musn't be full
    load. It's o.k. for actuating a coaster brake, but not
    for high torques during long operation periods." If
    anybody could give me some technical reasons for this FAQ
    answer, other than that they are covering their asses, I
    would appereciate it.

    I'm not sure what you mean; manifestly it's harder to
    design a planetary gear that must withstand high torque in
    both directions.

    Maybe if you know the details of how they are designed. I
    never realized they were not symmetrical.

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    Amoebit: Amoeba/rabbit cross; it can multiply and divide at
    the same time.

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