Fiber Fix Spokes

bktourer1 said:

I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you can't
use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
cord to go through the hub. This may no be the case on all bikes, but
it is on mine.
Others may want to check before they hit the road. This was something
I never thought of before and to my dismay, I found out this morning.
Will be taking the plate off when I do change the spoke today.

Couldn't you have just removed the thing on the roadside today? Most can be
simply broken off, if necessary. (Chain-breaker or multi-tool should have
something to use, too.)

Still, good tip. I take ALL the plastic stuff off my bikes first thing...

Bill Sornson said:

bktourer1 said:

I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you can't
use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
cord to go through the hub. This may no be the case on all bikes, but
it is on mine.
Others may want to check before they hit the road. This was something
I never thought of before and to my dismay, I found out this morning.
Will be taking the plate off when I do change the spoke today.

Couldn't you have just removed the thing on the roadside today? Most can be
simply broken off, if necessary. (Chain-breaker or multi-tool should have
something to use, too.)

Still, good tip. I take ALL the plastic stuff off my bikes first thing...

But....I thought you had a CFRP bike(?)

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Bill Sornson said:

bktourer1 said:

I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you
can't use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
cord to go through the hub. This may no be the case on all bikes,
but it is on mine.
Others may want to check before they hit the road. This was
something I never thought of before and to my dismay, I found out
this morning. Will be taking the plate off when I do change the
spoke today.

Couldn't you have just removed the thing on the roadside today?
Most can be simply broken off, if necessary. (Chain-breaker or
multi-tool should have something to use, too.)

Still, good tip. I take ALL the plastic stuff off my bikes first
thing...

But....I thought you had a CFRP bike(?)

OK, I take all the /bolted on/ plastic off (spoke protectors and reflectors
mainly).

The carbon (CFRP?) bike was just a frame & fork, so technically I didn't
have to remove any of that stuff off it.

Smart-ass 🙂

Bill Sornson said:

Quoted message said:

Bill Sornson said:

bktourer1 wrote:
> I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you
> can't use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
> freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
> cord to go through the hub. This may no be the case on all bikes,
> but it is on mine.
> Others may want to check before they hit the road. This was
> something I never thought of before and to my dismay, I found out
> this morning. Will be taking the plate off when I do change the
> spoke today.

Couldn't you have just removed the thing on the roadside today?
Most can be simply broken off, if necessary. (Chain-breaker or
multi-tool should have something to use, too.)

Still, good tip. I take ALL the plastic stuff off my bikes first
thing...

But....I thought you had a CFRP bike(?)

OK, I take all the /bolted on/ plastic off (spoke protectors and reflectors
mainly).

The carbon (CFRP?)

Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastic

Quoted message said:

bike was just a frame & fork, so technically I didn't
have to remove any of that stuff off it.

Smart-ass 🙂

;-)

bktourer1 said:

I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you can't
use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
cord to go through the hub.

Well, there's another good reason not to have a PLASTIC SPOKE PROTECTOR
on your rear wheel! <g> --D-y

Bill Sornson said:

bktourer1 said:

I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you
can't use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
cord to go through the hub. This may no be the case on all bikes,
but it is on mine.
Others may want to check before they hit the road. This was
something I never thought of before and to my dismay, I found out
this morning. Will be taking the plate off when I do change the
spoke today.

Couldn't you have just removed the thing on the roadside today? Most
can be simply broken off, if necessary. (Chain-breaker or multi-tool
should have something to use, too.)

New bikes with new spoke protectors are impossible to break off. If it is
yellowed or already cracked, it's pretty easy to break.

--
Phil Lee, Squid

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bktourer1 said:

I just found after carrying a Fiber Fix Spoke for some time, you
can't use it if you still have a plactic spoke protector behind your
freewheel, there is not enough clearance for the end of the kevlar
cord to go through the hub.

Well, there's another good reason not to have a PLASTIC SPOKE
PROTECTOR on your rear wheel! <g> --D-y

Sometimes at work we used to put the huge metal ones that are the size of
dinner plates on the Mavic Sylliums on the boy-racer bikes whose owners were
close friends of ours...
--
Phil Lee, Squid

Phil Lee said:

New bikes with new spoke protectors are impossible to break off.

Even if you have a dime or a multi-tool? I thought you either use a thin
blade to "unscrew" the plastic fastener thing; or stick something in there
and break the prong things. (Sorry to be so technical!)

Anyway, OP was a good reminder for people to remove those things if they
plan on replacing a spoke or using one of those Kevlar thi--- err,
whatchamacallits.

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

New bikes with new spoke protectors are impossible to break off.

Even if you have a dime or a multi-tool? I thought you either use a
thin blade to "unscrew" the plastic fastener thing; or stick
something in there and break the prong things. (Sorry to be so
technical!)

You're speaking of reflectors, which are easy. I'm talking about spoke
protectors behind the cassette.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, OP was a good reminder for people to remove those things if
they plan on replacing a spoke or using one of those Kevlar thi---
err, whatchamacallits.

The chances of getting a "borken" spoke on a reflector spoke are slim.
Reflectors can help keep you visible if you're riding at dusk, night, or
dawn.

--
Phil Lee, Squid

Phil Lee said:

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

New bikes with new spoke protectors are impossible to break off.

Even if you have a dime or a multi-tool? I thought you either use a
thin blade to "unscrew" the plastic fastener thing; or stick
something in there and break the prong things. (Sorry to be so
technical!)

You're speaking of reflectors, which are easy. I'm talking about
spoke protectors behind the cassette.

No, I mean the plastic "plate things" behind the cassette. The old ones, at
least, attached to the spokes with prongs and/or button-type fasteners.

How do you take them off at home or in the shop?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, OP was a good reminder for people to remove those things if
they plan on replacing a spoke or using one of those Kevlar thi---
err, whatchamacallits.

The chances of getting a "borken" spoke on a reflector spoke are slim.
Reflectors can help keep you visible if you're riding at dusk, night,
or dawn.

Totally lost me re. the spoke/reflector reference. I take off reflectors
because they're dorky (dead Fred giveaway); if I ride at night I light it up
with a HID and a blinky. (I'd probably leave them on a cruiser or town
bike, but not a roadie or mtb.)

It's all about looking COOL, Squid!

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee, Squid wrote:

> New bikes with new spoke protectors are impossible to break off.

Even if you have a dime or a multi-tool? I thought you either use a
thin blade to "unscrew" the plastic fastener thing; or stick
something in there and break the prong things. (Sorry to be so
technical!)

You're speaking of reflectors, which are easy. I'm talking about
spoke protectors behind the cassette.

No, I mean the plastic "plate things" behind the cassette. The old
ones, at least, attached to the spokes with prongs and/or button-type
fasteners.

Hmm, then I don't know what you're referring to as "unscrewing."

Quoted message said:

How do you take them off at home or in the shop?

Screwdriver and hammer, or cassette/freewheel removal tool.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyway, OP was a good reminder for people to remove those things if
they plan on replacing a spoke or using one of those Kevlar thi---
err, whatchamacallits.

The chances of getting a "borken" spoke on a reflector spoke are
slim. Reflectors can help keep you visible if you're riding at dusk,
night, or dawn.

Totally lost me re. the spoke/reflector reference. I take off
reflectors because they're dorky (dead Fred giveaway); if I ride at
night I light it up with a HID and a blinky. (I'd probably leave
them on a cruiser or town bike, but not a roadie or mtb.)

Yes, yes... that's the case I was referring to.

Quoted message said:

It's all about looking COOL, Squid!

I like dorky 32-spoke wheels.

--
Phil Lee, Squid

Phil Lee said:

Bill Sornson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, I mean the plastic "plate things" behind the cassette. The old
ones, at least, attached to the spokes with prongs and/or button-type
fasteners.

Hmm, then I don't know what you're referring to as "unscrewing."

Usually it's breaking 'em off (busting the prong things that attach to
spokes), but I think some of them have those "button"-type attachments that
you can unscrew from the back (using a screwdriver or even a coin).

Never mind...

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

Bill Sornson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, I mean the plastic "plate things" behind the cassette. The old
ones, at least, attached to the spokes with prongs and/or button-type
fasteners.

Hmm, then I don't know what you're referring to as "unscrewing."

Usually it's breaking 'em off (busting the prong things that attach to
spokes), but I think some of them have those "button"-type attachments that
you can unscrew from the back (using a screwdriver or even a coin).

Never mind...

I've never seen a spoke protector with the button-type attachments. And
even with my cassette off the last one I broke off was a pain in the ass.

Greg
--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

Bill Sornson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, I mean the plastic "plate things" behind the cassette. The old
ones, at least, attached to the spokes with prongs and/or button-type
fasteners.

Hmm, then I don't know what you're referring to as "unscrewing."

Usually it's breaking 'em off (busting the prong things that attach to
spokes), but I think some of them have those "button"-type attachments that
you can unscrew from the back (using a screwdriver or even a coin).

How do you get them around the cogs?

JT

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I did try to pry the plate back and hook the end with a piece of wire,
but there still wasn't enough room. Its the one thing the people who
came up with the idea didn't think of.
Perhaps in the instructions they might have mentioned is you have a
protector you might wish to remove befor you hit the road. Removing it
is not something everyone might think of.
ed

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

New bikes with new spoke protectors are impossible to break off.

Even if you have a dime or a multi-tool? I thought you either use a thin
blade to "unscrew" the plastic fastener thing; or stick something in there
and break the prong things. (Sorry to be so technical!)

Anyway, OP was a good reminder for people to remove those things if they
plan on replacing a spoke or using one of those Kevlar thi--- err,
whatchamacallits.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Bill Sornson said:

Phil Lee said:

Bill Sornson wrote:

Quoted message said:

> No, I mean the plastic "plate things" behind the cassette. The old
> ones, at least, attached to the spokes with prongs and/or
> button-type fasteners.

Hmm, then I don't know what you're referring to as "unscrewing."

Usually it's breaking 'em off (busting the prong things that attach
to spokes), but I think some of them have those "button"-type
attachments that you can unscrew from the back (using a screwdriver
or even a coin).

How do you get them around the cogs?

Break 'em off. (Good point though re. the OP. Even with his Kevlar spoke,
and even if he'd gotten the plastic protector loose, he'd've still been up
the creek without getting the cogs off. UNLESS loosening the protector gave
him enough room to install the cloth spoke? Could ride home with a loose
plastic pie plate if he had to...)

bktourer1 says...

Quoted message said:

I did try to pry the plate back and hook the end with a piece of wire,
but there still wasn't enough room. Its the one thing the people who
came up with the idea didn't think of.
Perhaps in the instructions they might have mentioned is you have a
protector you might wish to remove befor you hit the road. Removing it
is not something everyone might think of.

I use wire cutters to hack through them. Watch out for flying bits of
hard, cheap plastic. Wear your sunglasses (no, really).