first 200km audax

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I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done
an imperial

century-and-a-

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bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble
managing the extra 20-25? miles but the more I think about
it the more it seems like A Very Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it
will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer
106 miles at the end.

Good luck - don't forget your rain gear!

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Originally posted by davek
I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial century-and-a-bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble managing the extra 20-25? miles but the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer 106 miles at the end.

All the best Dave.

I'm sure you know all this but go at a steady pace (maybe a bit less than for your century) and get plenty to eat and drink.

Which one is it ?

Ian

davek said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done
an imperial century-and-a- bit* recently, I reckon I won't
have too much trouble managing the extra 20-25? miles but
the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it
will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer
106 miles at the end.

Look at it as a series of smaller rides. Good luck.

Is it the Canterbury one?

davek said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done
an imperial century-and-a- bit* recently, I reckon I won't
have too much trouble managing the extra 20-25? miles but
the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it
will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer
106 miles at the end.

I'm doing a looooong ride tomorrow, not an Audax but
still 200km

Simon Mason:

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Good luck -

thanks

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don't forget your rain gear!

*grumble* what happened to summer?

d.

Simonb:

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Look at it as a series of smaller rides. Good luck.

Cheers.

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Is it the Canterbury one?

That's the fella. Mostly familiar roads but should be fun
anyway, as long as the weather holds out.

d.

wheelsgoround:

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All the best Dave.

thanks

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Which one is it ?

The Canterbury "Kent Corners" 202km. Heads from Canterbury
west a bit in the direction of Maidstone then down to Rye.
Then it's back across country to Westgate (near Margate) and
finally along the coast back to Canterbury. It's a fairly
flat route but could be interesting going across Romney
Marsh depending which way the wind is blowing.

d.

davek <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done
an imperial century-and-a- bit* recently, I reckon I won't
have too much trouble managing the extra 20-25? miles but
the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it
will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

Good luck, would it be the Canterbury one by any chance?
never done it but done several 2/300's from the other
direction, as long as the wind is not too bad you'll be
fine, fairly rolling roads and usually a good crowd; the
Invicta was my first 200, the last 40 was testing, your legs
seem to know when you've done 100m ;-)

"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done
an imperial

century-and-a-

Quoted message said:

bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble
managing the extra 20-25? miles but the more I think about
it the more it seems like A Very Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it
will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

Good luck. Did my first one last weekend. It's a great
feeling to complete one - well worth the pain.

tony R.

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"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done
an imperial

century-and-a-

Quoted message said:

bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble
managing the extra 20-25? miles but the more I think
about it the more it seems like A Very Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect
it will be more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

How did you get on? looks like you had the weather.
Battle and back in 2 weeks, I'm entering the Sporting one
not the Grimpeur.

MartinM:

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How did you get on? looks like you had the weather.

Absolutely fantastic! Weather held out nicely - the only
difficult stretch, weather-wise, was towards the end where
the route took us along the coast, head-on into the teeth
of a "stiff sea breeze". Apart from that, the wind was not
nearly as much of a factor as weather reports had led me to
fear. And it remained sunny for most of the day - just got
a few spots of rain later on, but nothing you could even
call a shower.

I set myself a target time of 10 hours. Set off at 8am and
crossed the finish line at about 6.10pm, so I think I paced
it pretty much perfectly. The route was divided into
'stages' so that made it easier to break down into
digestible chunks, and I set target times for each stage
that I achieved in every case - with enough time to spare to
allow myself decent rest/food breaks. I would have arrived
back even sooner except that I got lost a couple of times en
route and ended up riding about an extra 15km! (I didn't
realise at the time just how much extra I'd done because my
computer records miles.)

When I did the 100 miles a month or so ago, I was more or
less finished by about 70 miles and it was a major struggle
to get to the end. Yesterday, I still enough left in the
tank at the end to ride the 8 1/2 miles home (although it
was a struggle, because I had mentally 'finished' the ride
already and it felt like my body had taken that mental
signal was trying to shut itself down).

There are two main differences between the rides: first, I
was riding on my own for most of the time so was able to set
my own pace - I did tag along with other riders at various
stages but whenever it started to feel like they were going
to fast for me I just dropped off and let them get on with
it. The second major difference is that I paid a lot more
attention to eating and drinking - got my water bottle
filled up at every opportunity and even made a few extra
unscheduled stops for refills, just to make sure that I
never ran out of something to drink.

Getting lost was a nuisance. The first time it wasn't my
fault - I had got in with a bunch of riders and was just
following them. Big mistake. Then, after getting me lost,
the sods dropped me. Pah! I managed to find the route again,
but then lost it again due to missing a signpost.
Fortunately, I was quite close to a checkpoint this time and
managed to find my way back easily - at the checkpoint I met
several other people who said they had missed the signpost
too (I suspect it was the signpost that was missing), so at
least it wasn't only me.

In total, yesterday, including riding to the start and
finish, plus detours, I rode about 153 miles (246km), which
is the furthest I have ever ridden in a single day by a
huge margin. My shins are a bit sore today and my backside
is feeling a little tender, but apart from that I feel
absolutely fine - could quite happily go out for a
'recovery' ride later. It helps that I was in bed and
asleep by 9pm...

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Battle and back in 2 weeks, I'm entering the Sporting one
not the Grimpeur.

Best of luck with that. It starts in Croydon, doesn't
it... Hmmm... I could conceivably do that one myself. If
the wife lets me.

Talking of grimpeurs, I'm sure yesterday's ride should
qualify for AAA points - a lot of it was fairly flat, there
was a total of 1707m climbing over the course, including
some pretty serious uphill bits coming out of Folkestone.
Must look this one up in the AUK handbook.

j.

Simon Brooke:

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Over the whole distance I did 13.1, which was better than
the 12.5 I'd targeted. ... And at the end apart from sore
feet (over-tight shoes) I felt good for another twenty.

Yup, I found exactly the same yesterday. I really made an
effort to eat and drink plenty along the way, and I felt so
much better at the end than I did at the end of the 100
miler I did a month ago - and was able to maintain a steady-but-
decent pace the whole way.

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I appreciate that 200 kilometres is a lot more than
fifty miles.

Only in the mind! Apply the eating-an-elephant principle and
it doesn't seem nearly so far. Though I must say, based on
yesterday's experience, I'm going to attempt a couple more
200s before I even begin to contemplate a 300...

d.

Fantastic, Dave. Well done. Sounds like you had a great day.

When's the 300? :-)

As far as AAA points are concerned, you need a minimum of about 1400m climing per 100km to qualify for any points. Even then, it's up to the organiser whether or not the event is registered for AAA. Regardless of that, 1707m is still a lot of hill.

Best of luck with the next one.

Ian

davek said:

Only in the mind! Apply the eating-an-elephant
principle and it doesn't seem nearly so far. Though I
must say, based on yesterday's experience, I'm going to
attempt a couple more 200s before I even begin to
contemplate a 300...

I wouldn't worry too much about more 200s first. I did a 350
from cold (London to York) and found life didn't get any
harder past the 150km mark, in fact it seemed to get better
later on as the goal got closer. The main difference is its
more like eating three elephants and eating that middle
elephant when you already know what eating one is like and
knowing you've still go another to go when you've finished
the second can be a bit daunting.

Tony

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The main difference is its more like eating three elephants

And here's a man with the experience to back that up:
<url:http://www.rathergood.com/elephants/>

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Just zis Guy said:

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:20:47 +0100, "Tony Raven" <junk@raven-
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berlin.de>:

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The main difference is its more like eating three
elephants

And here's a man with the experience to back that up:
<url:http://www.rathergood.com/elephants/>

Roll up, roll up, get your elephants here, three for a tenor

Tony

PS Where do you find this stuff?

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Where do you find this stuff?

I dunno, really. Mainly from friends, I think. Here are some
other classics:

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"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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MartinM:

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How did you get on? looks like you had the weather.

Absolutely fantastic! Weather held out nicely - the only
difficult stretch, weather-wise, was towards the end where
the route took us along the coast, head-on into the teeth
of a "stiff sea breeze". Apart from that, the wind was not
nearly as much of a factor as weather reports had led me
to fear. And it remained sunny for most of the day - just
got a few spots of rain later on, but nothing you could
even call a shower.

I set myself a target time of 10 hours. Set off at 8am and
crossed the finish line at about 6.10pm, so I think I
paced it pretty much perfectly. The route was divided into
'stages' so that made it easier to break down into
digestible chunks, and I set target times for each stage
that I achieved in every case - with enough time to spare
to allow myself decent rest/food breaks. I would have
arrived back even sooner except that I got lost a couple
of times en route and ended up riding about an extra 15km!
(I didn't realise at the time just how much extra I'd done
because my computer records miles.)

When I did the 100 miles a month or so ago, I was more or
less finished by about 70 miles and it was a major
struggle to get to the end. Yesterday, I still enough left
in the tank at the end to ride the 8 1/2 miles home
(although it was a struggle, because I had mentally
'finished' the ride already and it felt like my body had
taken that mental signal was trying to shut itself down).

There are two main differences between the rides: first, I
was riding on my own for most of the time so was able to
set my own pace - I did tag along with other riders at
various stages but whenever it started to feel like they
were going to fast for me I just dropped off and let them
get on with
it. The second major difference is that I paid a lot more
attention to eating and drinking - got my water bottle
filled up at every opportunity and even made a few
extra unscheduled stops for refills, just to make sure
that I never ran out of something to drink.

Getting lost was a nuisance. The first time it wasn't my
fault - I had got in with a bunch of riders and was just
following them. Big mistake. Then, after getting me lost,
the sods dropped me. Pah! I managed to find the route
again, but then lost it again due to missing a signpost.
Fortunately, I was quite close to a checkpoint this time
and managed to find my way back easily - at the checkpoint
I met several other people who said they had missed the
signpost too (I suspect it was the signpost that was
missing), so at least it wasn't only me.

In total, yesterday, including riding to the start and
finish, plus detours, I rode about 153 miles (246km),
which is the furthest I have ever ridden in a single day
by a huge margin. My shins are a bit sore today and my
backside is feeling a little tender, but apart from that I
feel absolutely fine - could quite happily go out for a
'recovery' ride later. It helps that I was in bed and
asleep by 9pm...

Quoted message said:

Battle and back in 2 weeks, I'm entering the Sporting one
not the Grimpeur.

Best of luck with that. It starts in Croydon, doesn't
it... Hmmm... I could conceivably do that one myself. If
the wife lets me.

Go for it, I've just printed out my form

And Well done; sounds like you are hooked, an SR and PBP
beckons ;-)

wheelsgoround:

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Fantastic, Dave. Well done. Sounds like you had a
great day.

Cheers. It was indeed a great fun day.

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When's the 300? :-)

My initial reaction after yesterday was that I probably
ought to do a couple more 200s first, but in fact I did very
close on 250km overall yesterday, so maybe the 300 isn't
that far off...

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As far as AAA points are concerned, you need a minimum of
about 1400m climing per 100km to qualify for any points.

Yes, I looked it up in the handbook and realised that
yesterday's ride was quite a long way off qualifying for
AAA points - about 1000m off in fact. Fair enough,
considering a large chunk of it was over the practically
Dutch terrain of Romney Marsh - all the climbing was
concentrated into a few nasty hills around the halfway
mark. They just felt bad at the time.

d.